The Lotus Vaporizer

To the people looking for a good scoop, these spoons were mentioned on this site somewhere a while back and they work great with the Lotus. The long handles are especially nice if you keep your ground herb in a Jyarz container.

Speaking of scoops, @Ratchett any word on 3d printed Lotus accessories? A scoop or custom fit carrying case for the vapor cap, wpa, stem, lighter, etc, or a nice J-hook stand? Seems like these kinda things would be a good fit for 3d printing, I know I'd be interested to see what you can come up with.

As far as vaping reclaim, I've never tried it with the Lotus but have done it with good results in my Underdog. I don't think the process with the Lotus should be much different. Definitely needs higher heat than flowers, so don't be afraid to torch the cap longer than usual. @Caligula posted a video of this in the e-nano thread. A different vape but the process of loading it up would be the same. Here's the vid...

We really just need like a silicone, frisbee-looking kinda deal that'd slide right onto the top of the wood cap to protect it during transport.

Currently, I'm wrapping it in a sock and sticking it and the WPA into a small mason jar for transport. It'd be cool if someone found a way to carry these things while protecting the thin hot-plate from damage.

sherb said:

We really just need like a silicone, frisbee-looking kinda deal that'd slide right onto the top of the wood cap to protect it during transport.

Currently, I'm wrapping it in a sock and sticking it and the WPA into a small mason jar for transport. It'd be cool if someone found a way to carry these things while protecting the thin hot-plate from damage.

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This has been working great for me! http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-lotus-vaporizer.2595/page-128#post-573554

sherb said:

We really just need like a silicone, frisbee-looking kinda deal that'd slide right onto the top of the wood cap to protect it during transport.

Currently, I'm wrapping it in a sock and sticking it and the WPA into a small mason jar for transport. It'd be cool if someone found a way to carry these things while protecting the thin hot-plate from damage.

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Lotus condom.

I have really been enjoying my lotus with my MFLB orbiter


Works really well

SpruceGruve said:

I have really been enjoying my lotus with my MFLB orbiter


Works really well

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I know what you mean!

walrus said:

To the people looking for a good scoop, these spoons were mentioned on this site somewhere a while back and they work great with the Lotus. The long handles are especially nice if you keep your ground herb in a Jyarz container.

Speaking of scoops, @Ratchett any word on 3d printed Lotus accessories? A scoop or custom fit carrying case for the vapor cap, wpa, stem, lighter, etc, or a nice J-hook stand? Seems like these kinda things would be a good fit for 3d printing, I know I'd be interested to see what you can come up with.

As far as vaping reclaim, I've never tried it with the Lotus but have done it with good results in my Underdog. I don't think the process with the Lotus should be much different. Definitely needs higher heat than flowers, so don't be afraid to torch the cap longer than usual. @Caligula posted a video of this in the e-nano thread. A different vape but the process of loading it up would be the same. Here's the vid...

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sherb said:

We really just need like a silicone, frisbee-looking kinda deal that'd slide right onto the top of the wood cap to protect it during transport.

Currently, I'm wrapping it in a sock and sticking it and the WPA into a small mason jar for transport. It'd be cool if someone found a way to carry these things while protecting the thin hot-plate from damage.

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Thanks for the video! So it looks like he is making a flat 'disc' of cotton and covering the base with it. What I've been doing is rolling in my fingers to make a nice ball, and tossing the ball in the center, with air freely moving around the sides of the ball. Instead I should try to make a puck and force the air through the cotton?

Yes, I have been planning out some accessories for the Lotus including a cap of sorts which will cover the lotus for transport. (Thought I did order that headphone case @SSVUN~YAH suggested, waiting to see how it fits in the case). I did try 3D printing several scoops for the Lotus, including one similar to the scoop MT sells, but results were mixed, further testing needed. I Also made a very tiny tablespoon with my 3D printer which worked, but the walls were too thick and it wasn't easy to scoop. More time/experimenting is needed to develop a better scoop. I think my next iteration might be some sort of 'shovel'

Today, I'm working on some prototype water-tight plugs to use when cleaning glass - specifically, I'm making 2 plugs to fit my D020 so I can shake the sh*t out of it with ISO and salt without having to hold the holes closed! Ideally, I'd like to sell 14mm and 18mm male rubber plugs designed to work with any glass, but I have a feeling I can't make a 'universal' plug for mouthpieces.

I still need to make a hook for the GRAV J-hook included with my WPA kit from MT - It annoys the crap out of me that I can't rest my Jhook upright!.

I'll post some pictures here when I have some working protypes up for sale on my Etsy site, but right now I've been busy building a new 3D printer. (There's just something about using one's personal 3D printer to print parts for a new 3D printer that feels so futuristic). Once I've gotten my machines in working order, I'll get back to designing more complicated stuff.

SpruceGruve said:

I have really been enjoying my lotus with my MFLB orbiter


Works really well

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Try the glass mflb stem in the end of your whip instead of the short plastic one.

Also notice the torn zigzag cardboard, that's my current scoop.

I just ordered the wpa+nornmal pipe kit (loving it). However, my pipe piece didn't have a screen, only the wpa. Is that normal? Or should I have gotten 2 screens?

My recently replaced hot plate is cracking along the same lines as before (around the dimple).
Not sure why this keeps failing on mine, I have taken great care of it at home and transporting in a Pelican.

Lotus support has been fantastic so far, and they will no doubt help me get back going, but am curious why this keeps happening. My only guess would be that the drilled holes for the screws might not be perfectly aligned, causing strain and eventual fatigue on the metal plate? Would that make sense? What else might cause the plate to crack around the dimple?

Any thoughts, direction, guidance, tips and advice is all appreciated.
Thank you!

FlyingLow said:

My recently replaced hot plate is cracking along the same lines as before (around the dimple).
Not sure why this keeps failing on mine, I have taken great care of it at home and transporting in a Pelican.

Lotus support has been fantastic so far, and they will no doubt help me get back going, but am curious why this keeps happening. My only guess would be that the drilled holes for the screws might not be perfectly aligned, causing strain and eventual fatigue on the metal plate? Would that make sense? What else might cause the plate to crack around the dimple?

Any thoughts, direction, guidance, tips and advice is all appreciated.
Thank you!

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Loosen the bolts a fraction
?

Or don't tighten them fully one at a time do each bolt a bit at a time

Vapormonger said:

I just ordered the wpa+nornmal pipe kit (loving it). However, my pipe piece didn't have a screen, only the wpa. Is that normal? Or should I have gotten 2 screens?

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You should have gotten 2 screens and some extras. I got some screens from this place on a recommendation and love them, no bits of weed in my J-hook. The 1/2 inch fit perfectly and fast shipping. I like them better than the ones that come with the Lotus. http://www.pipescreenz.com

VaporsVaporizer said:

You should have gotten 2 screens and some extras. I got some screens from this place on a recommendation and love them, no bits of weed in my J-hook. The 1/2 inch fit perfectly and fast shipping. I like them better than the ones that come with the Lotus. http://www.pipescreenz.com

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Yup loucoins on eBay IIRC, got my honeycomb screens from him!

Salutations FlyingLow,

FlyingLow said:

...fatigue on the metal plate? ... What else might cause the plate to crack around the dimple?

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The word that came out of my mind without thinking about it was "relief", so if that were the case it could mean the cracks happen because mechanical stress can't escape in a less destructive way. Now if i actually begin to focus on the idea then i realize i wonder as much as you do.

In any case the MLFB glass accessory makes super photograph subjects, that's some nice cannabic porn. Well done!

Guys!

Just figured out something I didn't know (and haven't read previously on any troubleshooting site) about lighters!

My T-38 Zico lighter (mentioned previously) has always been a piece of crap because I could never get it to light consistently or with a long hot torch flame. No matter how many times I bleed or burped the tank fully before filling, I could only get a very tiny torch even on max setting (sometimes when completely full). I've even tried 3 different butane brands to see if any worked better than the other. Another strange thing I noticed - when I had the lighter set to low, it sounded like almost no fuel was coming out!

After sitting on my shelf for the past week, I decided to start playing with it again. This time I tried cranking it to max, and then gently turned a bit more (what the hell, it was already broke!). I felt a "click" and now I had a new range for max and low settings - guess what?? The flame ignited! Though at max setting, the flame was still WAY too short.

So I gave it another 2 clicks further, until the flame was way longer than I'd ever need. The + and - symbols don't match up anywhere near what they should on the bottom, but that doesn't matter - the torch works. It's perfect! I actually had to set the flame down to the middle of the range to get an optimal flame.

Phew! So glad I didn't buy a lemon!

Pulled the trigger on a pipe and WPA kit. Got my shipping notification this morning. Also got the soaking glass, scoop, hex wrench and a pack each of both types of screens.

I think I'm more excited about this than I was for my first vape! Thanks to those who have answered my questions about this product and accessories, especially @natural farmer. Your enthusiasm for this vape is infectious.

My wife has a creams brûlée torch and Newport butane. Is Newport good?

Also, I can't remember if I heard this here or on the grinder thread but some are saying that 99.5% ISO will take some anodising off. Should I be watering down my ISO when I soak the stem and if so how much?

In the future I think I will soak in 95% ethanol so I can use it for tincture. I'm guessing this May be better as it seems that ethanol is a less aggressive solvent. Not sure if I should water this down a bit too. Sure wouldn't like to have any anodising chemicals in something I was going to use internally.

Tom Funk said:

Pulled the trigger on a pipe and WPA kit. Got my shipping notification this morning. Also got the soaking glass, scoop, hex wrench and a pack each of both types of screens.

I think I'm more excited about this than I was for my first vape! Thanks to those who have answered my questions about this product and accessories, especially @natural farmer. Your enthusiasm for this vape is infectious.

My wife has a creams brûlée torch and Newport butane. Is Newport good?

Also, I can't remember if I heard this here or on the grinder thread but some are saying that 99.5% ISO will take some anodising off. Should I be watering down my ISO when I soak the stem and if so how much?

In the future I think I will soak in 95% ethanol so I can use it for tincture. I'm guessing this May be better as it seems that ethanol is a less aggressive solvent. Not sure if I should water this down a bit too. Sure wouldn't like to have any anodising chemicals in something I was going to use internally.

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I'm sure the manufacturer warns against using cooking/creme brulee torches?

cityslang said:

I'm sure the manufacturer warns against using cooking/creme brulee torches?

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Wasn't planning on using the torch, just the butane I bought for it. I saw on australianvaporizers.com that they recommended Newport butane for Iolite and WISPR. Just wanted to check here if it's good.

The creme brûlée torch is single flame and the flame can be adjusted to a short enough length though. What is meant to be the problem with them? Is the flame too wide or too hot?

Tom Funk said:

Wasn't planning on using the torch, just the butane I bought for it. I saw on australianvaporizers.com that they recommended Newport butane for Iolite and WISPR. Just wanted to check here if it's good.

The creme brûlée torch is single flame and the flame can be adjusted to a short enough length though. What is meant to be the problem with them? Is the flame too wide or too hot?

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I use newport and it works fine.

I'm sure it's on their website that they may damage scorch the plate on the faq page sorry but their website is not phone friendly but I'm 99% certain when ordering I noticed it. IIRC 1300'C is the max temp for the flame?

E2A the torches seem to go wrong if you overheat them. They get very hot and they expand internally a valve failed on one of my cheapo lighters a friend over used it and it died for good.

I have 2 in the case so I switch over if one gets too hot and stops working

Package arrived in the mail!
Still getting the hang of it.

I heard that combustion is easy to do when you first start off but I haven't even got close to combusting yet.
I did notice the air intake holes under the cap don't line up with the holes in the nickel plate, is that normal?

Sorry if it's been answered already.

Edit: The very edge of the holes on the plate are visible.
Also the sleek lighter doesn't stay lit on its side, which is annoying. Rotate 45 degrees and no worries but I'm not sure it's great for cooking the load though.

jimbob said:

Package arrived in the mail!
Still getting the hang of it.

I heard that combustion is easy to do when you first start off but I haven't even got close to combusting yet.
I did notice the air intake holes under the cap don't line up with the holes in the nickel plate, is that normal?

Sorry if it's been answered already.

Edit: The very edge of the holes on the plate are visible.
Also the sleek lighter doesn't stay lit on its side, which is annoying. Rotate 45 degrees and no worries but I'm not sure it's great for cooking the load though.

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Welcome to the club! Yes, the Lotus does take some getting used to. I find it's almost like a game to see how even you can vape the load, without finding one really dark spot.

I personally combusted twice the first day, but congrats if you haven't! So far I've only managed to combust a total of 3 times.

Don't worry if the intake holes don't line up with the holes in the oven. (Note, I don't believe the nickle plate has any holes itself, there's another plate in the middle). The core thing to remember is that you need to evenly heat the load, don't move the lighter around super fast, but don't ever keep it on one spot for too long.

I have the sleek lighter too. Two things to try - different higher quality butane, and try turning down the flame a bit if it's very long. My honest lighter isn't super reliable, but since switching to a higher quality (filtered) butane, and reducing the flame, it's pretty reliable (only goes out occasionally mid-draw)

@Tom Funk - Newport butane is ultra pure - 7x filtered, that should work totally fine. Hell, I'm only using 5x filtered with no issues.

Zenga lighter do not use this on a Lotus unless you snap the cap off first the cap melts from the heat reflection and the cheeky thing dribbled some melted plastic on my lotus.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00J0FT8RC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1397581110&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

Ratchett said:

Welcome to the club! Yes, the Lotus does take some getting used to. I find it's almost like a game to see how even you can vape the load, without finding one really dark spot.

I personally combusted twice the first day, but congrats if you haven't! So far I've only managed to combust a total of 3 times.

Don't worry if the intake holes don't line up with the holes in the oven. (Note, I don't believe the nickle plate has any holes itself, there's another plate in the middle). The core thing to remember is that you need to evenly heat the load, don't move the lighter around super fast, but don't ever keep it on one spot for too long.

I have the sleek lighter too. Two things to try - different higher quality butane, and try turning down the flame a bit if it's very long. My honest lighter isn't super reliable, but since switching to a higher quality (filtered) butane, and reducing the flame, it's pretty reliable (only goes out occasionally mid-draw)

@Tom Funk - Newport butane is ultra pure - 7x filtered, that should work totally fine. Hell, I'm only using 5x filtered with no issues.

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Sweet! The cans themselves don't give an objective measurement of how refined it is and I had no luck googling it either. Thanks for your answer. I thought it would be fine but it's good to know for sure.

Ratchett said:

Welcome to the club! Yes, the Lotus does take some getting used to. I find it's almost like a game to see how even you can vape the load, without finding one really dark spot.

I personally combusted twice the first day, but congrats if you haven't! So far I've only managed to combust a total of 3 times.

Don't worry if the intake holes don't line up with the holes in the oven. (Note, I don't believe the nickle plate has any holes itself, there's another plate in the middle). The core thing to remember is that you need to evenly heat the load, don't move the lighter around super fast, but don't ever keep it on one spot for too long.

I have the sleek lighter too. Two things to try - different higher quality butane, and try turning down the flame a bit if it's very long. My honest lighter isn't super reliable, but since switching to a higher quality (filtered) butane, and reducing the flame, it's pretty reliable (only goes out occasionally mid-draw)

@Tom Funk - Newport butane is ultra pure - 7x filtered, that should work totally fine. Hell, I'm only using 5x filtered with no issues.

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Thanks @Ratchett

I see exactly what you mean. With the AL stem I have to heat the plate very hot and draw very slow. Tried a quick hit with the WPA and a water pipe and almost combusted pretty quickly following similar guidelines to when using the AL stem. Makes this unit mostly for personal use IMO.

Appreciate the clarification regarding the air intake holes.

I initially struggled to turn all the load from green to brown.
Less moving of the flame = quicker heat up time and a hotter plate so perhaps that was my problem. I also went from packing 1/4 bowls to 3/4 bowls and that alone also seemingly made a big difference.

Thanks for the lighter tips I will have to give them a try. I grabbed what butane was available from the smoke mart when I heard my package had arrived.

We are now including a hi temp vinyl cap with each order.

Size it to length with a sharp knife.