Discontinued VRIPtech Heating Wand
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Really cool set up Nebu!!! The one and only complaint we've ever had about the glass screens is that they allow some particulate to get through --- is there any flavor picked up from the hemp fiber? Can you post a pic of it used after some Vrips? Love it!
Nebu
Post-Apocalyptic Renaissance Man
Thanks! Yes, that was my only complaint as well. I definitely prefer not to have any grinds getting in the clean glass, potentially clogging up the bubble-works and just making a general mess. Pieces with fine diffusion are especially susceptible.
Hemp fiber is 100% neutral (taste & polarity), as far as I can sense. Of course, it does definitely pick up aromatics from whatever one is vaping, which is the oil-capturing aspect I mentioned. One anecdotal observation; when temps get higher than I prefer (e.g. "milkish" vs blue), the smoke/vapor hybrid produced seems noticeably tamed/less-harsh.
Will do on the photos once I get it good and oiled up. I also started with a 100% clean Lower Bowl to gauge how much condensate pass-through occurs. For anyone inclined to test this (don't wait for me!), a good thing to do would be to log the fiber's weight (with a sensitive, .01g scale) prior to use. After some time it will start to increase in weight as it accumulates oil. Once it is up to whatever weight/oil accumulation one decides, just take it out, put it on top of the glass screen and vape the shiznet out of it for some reclaim vapes. Since I usually go low-temp and cash-out my ABV quite early, I suspect my oil accumulation will be at the high-velocity end of the scale. By that I mean, if one were to really go hot and keep hitting a load that was really spent, the hemp fiber reclaim oil will likely also start being vaporized.
Bless.
John Lewus
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Hey Nebu! I did an experiment very similar to this already. Check out my posts at
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaping-with-cotton.9892/page-9#post-487531
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaping-with-cotton.9892/page-9#post-487919
for the followup. Essentially I vaped back everything I collected as proven by weight before and after.
Almost have the new Vrip bowls dialed for production --- the next gen VHW is next and will mate with the spherical joint on the intake without a silicon seal being required. As All-Glass as it gets with the Vrip extraction efficiency maintained.
WaxOnWaxOff
Well-Known Member
Almost have the new Vrip bowls dialed for production --- the next gen VHW is next and will mate with the spherical joint on the intake without a silicon seal being required. As All-Glass as it gets with the Vrip extraction efficiency maintained.
I can't wait! I've been wanting a VHW for a very long time and as soon as the new version is available i'm getting one immediately.
Retry on the images isn't going regardless of re-sizing using dropbox or using tinypic.com??? Sorry family --- the images can be opened individually or you can see them on our facebook page though as a work-around for now: https://www.facebook.com/pages/THE-OFFICIAL-VRIPTECH-VAPORIZER/171752122868501?ref=hl
I'll come back to this later and see if I can figure it out got some R&D to get to now!!!
I'll come back to this later and see if I can figure it out got some R&D to get to now!!!
Success!!! There they are…more to come soon of the new VHW cover that mates with the spherical interface on the upper intake. Last two shots are looking down with the intake on and then again looking down with no intake just the lower bowl standing.
Raskin666
Doom Walrus
After my usual longtime piece broke, I was searching tirelessly for a water piece that met my criteria, I finally found the VRT Water Tool Perk (bent neck, ice catch, thick glass, single perc). I will be using it with my SSV.
I have company this weekend so was hoping to have it in time, so ordered from NEXTDAYVAPES. Unfortunately, they emailed me saying it is no longer in stock (it still says in stock on their site). So that killed some more time. Ordered from Aqua Lab Technologies with priority mail. Hopefully they don't dawdle around too much and maybe I will get it by Saturday. If NEXTDAYVAPES hadn't wasted my time, I would be golden! Looking forward to checking out this awesome tool.
I have company this weekend so was hoping to have it in time, so ordered from NEXTDAYVAPES. Unfortunately, they emailed me saying it is no longer in stock (it still says in stock on their site). So that killed some more time. Ordered from Aqua Lab Technologies with priority mail. Hopefully they don't dawdle around too much and maybe I will get it by Saturday. If NEXTDAYVAPES hadn't wasted my time, I would be golden! Looking forward to checking out this awesome tool.
charliedontsurf
Medical
Success!!! There they are…more to come soon of the new VHW cover that mates with the spherical interface on the upper intake. Last two shots are looking down with the intake on and then again looking down with no intake just the lower bowl standing.
That's beautiful work man, good stuff.
Mini Bones
Member
Was about to buy a wand and now I hear a new version is coming out?!? Glad I can wait for the new version. My question is about the vape quality. When looking for the cleanist most pure vape with no chance of off-gasses and a complete glass on glass set up, There always are 4 names that come up in conversation... Vrip, Cloud, Herborizer, and Aromed. As for those four, it seems like every forum goes back and fourth for which is superior. Being that I live in the USA and don't mind taking extra time to se up a bong, is there anything else out there that can compare to the Vrip wand (money no object)? There are just too many out there that I figured I should turn to you all and im so tired of local shops telling me that nobody is looking for glass on glass and then try and push some small pen on me. Thanks in advance.
charliedontsurf
Medical
Hey there Bones. I have had or currently own all four of those vaporizers, and imo only the Cloud and Vriptech should be considered amongst the highest tier if you are taking vapor purity and extraction effectiveness into account. The Aromed has tons of non-glass components in the airpath, as does the Herborizer. The Cloud and Vriptech on the other hand only have stainless steel screens in the airpath, and optionally medical grade silicone for the Vriptech. The Cloud and Vriptech are both excellent - the main advantage of the Cloud for me is convenience of a one piece design and less exposed, fragile glass. The Vriptech's advantages are a way more reasonable purchase price and I'd say you could argue it has a more complex and effective path for the air to heat up. They're both excellent vaporizers and are money well spent. You should also look into the Sublimator which uses SCIENCE to supposedly produce more medically effective vapor than other vapes, but I'm not well read on it and have never used it.
You're right to be dubious of all the low quality pen "vaporizers" flooding the market.
Right on Raskin wish you where using our VWT PerK with a VCBS and a VHW, but stoked you're getting Vrip into the kit!
Thanks Charliedontsurf I knew you'd appreciate the effort as a glass blower --- we went through quite a few different iterations to get to the point we are now because Mark is such a stickler for the flow form and the bowls and intakes we have now work so damn well it's hard to match their flow form efficiency. Obviously having a taper joint glass on glass connection instead of the compression fit o-ring is an improvement in how the new VCBS are assembled, but if the vapor extractions aren't as efficient it won't work for Vrip. To many it may just seem like we sealed some joints together, but besides the proximity challenge of having the joints so close the trickiest part was getting the inner diameter of the bowl section to be straight bore to a reduction (instead of tapered in the wrong direction) with a nice ledge for the glass screen (or metal if preferred) at the reduction. Thankfully our American manufacturing partners are amongst the best in the world. I wish I could brag about what I saw last week related to the new wand cover, but Mark told me to keep it skunkworks until we knew we where going to be able to make it happen. We'll definitely have a new VHW cover to match up with the new VCBs or VCBSs, but he is trying to make something really, really sick happen that I don't think anyone in the functional glass business has done to date in terms of attaching glass. I'll say this: it's well beyond a tapered joint connection! Stay posted Family ---more on the Next Gen Vrip coming soon!
Mini Bones thanks for the interest --- the biggest differences between us and the other "connoisseur" or "medical" vapes with some glass components you list is that our heating, extraction, AND delivery path are all glass assuming you prefer our glass screens (and even if you want to use a metal mesh it will be less metal by weight required than the others use for holding the herbs in place) and the patented Vrip flow-form physics "sequential venturi" approach affects a broader spectrum extraction per pass by accellerating the convective air flow through the herbs/concentrates rather than maintaining a consistent pace or accellerating it through by way of a single venturi which doesn't produce the same acceleration potential as a sequential venturi. Also, the idea of maintaing the ritual of water pipe/bubbler smoking, i.e. packing a bowl, putting it in your water tool and putting a heat source to the bowl has always been central to the Vrip approach. You can see your bowl and the heat source mated and since it is clear glass you'll know pretty quickly if you've got it set too hot or not hot enough and can easily finesse the temp mid-pull assuming you're close by simply altering the rate of pull a little and/or cracking the seal between wand and intake. The wand uses a simple potentiometer dial for temp control and you as the user provide the feedback to adjust --- analogue simplicity and reliability. No digital estimated temps arrived at by way of a metal thermo probe in the heat path and an algorithm to decide what should be displayed, no special herb pods to pack or hoses required and the surfaces that are held by hand don't get hot at all or don't get overly hot to the touch. Our kit will not be the cheapest, easiest or most brain-dead to use since you as the user are expected to partcipate in the extraction (not just inhale), but the quality of vapor extracted and delivered is second to none if properly used. Our system is designed for going well beyond just recreational vapor to the realm of medical aromatherapy. That said it definitely isn't the most portable and I'm sure pens are preferred by some in some applications, but for most in the Vrip family taking a couple Vrips that are large enough and condensed enough to hold you for 4-6 hours makes life without a pen (and the trippy materials and smells coming from most of them) very viable. We love the Thermo-Essence (Thermovape.com) CERA and LUNA portables though so if you're ever in the market for a portable they are the only ones we recommend. Hit us up at info@vriptech.com or simply post here if any questions of feedback you want fielded and thanks again for the interest. More on the Net Gen Vrip coming soon….
Thanks Charliedontsurf I knew you'd appreciate the effort as a glass blower --- we went through quite a few different iterations to get to the point we are now because Mark is such a stickler for the flow form and the bowls and intakes we have now work so damn well it's hard to match their flow form efficiency. Obviously having a taper joint glass on glass connection instead of the compression fit o-ring is an improvement in how the new VCBS are assembled, but if the vapor extractions aren't as efficient it won't work for Vrip. To many it may just seem like we sealed some joints together, but besides the proximity challenge of having the joints so close the trickiest part was getting the inner diameter of the bowl section to be straight bore to a reduction (instead of tapered in the wrong direction) with a nice ledge for the glass screen (or metal if preferred) at the reduction. Thankfully our American manufacturing partners are amongst the best in the world. I wish I could brag about what I saw last week related to the new wand cover, but Mark told me to keep it skunkworks until we knew we where going to be able to make it happen. We'll definitely have a new VHW cover to match up with the new VCBs or VCBSs, but he is trying to make something really, really sick happen that I don't think anyone in the functional glass business has done to date in terms of attaching glass. I'll say this: it's well beyond a tapered joint connection! Stay posted Family ---more on the Next Gen Vrip coming soon!
Mini Bones thanks for the interest --- the biggest differences between us and the other "connoisseur" or "medical" vapes with some glass components you list is that our heating, extraction, AND delivery path are all glass assuming you prefer our glass screens (and even if you want to use a metal mesh it will be less metal by weight required than the others use for holding the herbs in place) and the patented Vrip flow-form physics "sequential venturi" approach affects a broader spectrum extraction per pass by accellerating the convective air flow through the herbs/concentrates rather than maintaining a consistent pace or accellerating it through by way of a single venturi which doesn't produce the same acceleration potential as a sequential venturi. Also, the idea of maintaing the ritual of water pipe/bubbler smoking, i.e. packing a bowl, putting it in your water tool and putting a heat source to the bowl has always been central to the Vrip approach. You can see your bowl and the heat source mated and since it is clear glass you'll know pretty quickly if you've got it set too hot or not hot enough and can easily finesse the temp mid-pull assuming you're close by simply altering the rate of pull a little and/or cracking the seal between wand and intake. The wand uses a simple potentiometer dial for temp control and you as the user provide the feedback to adjust --- analogue simplicity and reliability. No digital estimated temps arrived at by way of a metal thermo probe in the heat path and an algorithm to decide what should be displayed, no special herb pods to pack or hoses required and the surfaces that are held by hand don't get hot at all or don't get overly hot to the touch. Our kit will not be the cheapest, easiest or most brain-dead to use since you as the user are expected to partcipate in the extraction (not just inhale), but the quality of vapor extracted and delivered is second to none if properly used. Our system is designed for going well beyond just recreational vapor to the realm of medical aromatherapy. That said it definitely isn't the most portable and I'm sure pens are preferred by some in some applications, but for most in the Vrip family taking a couple Vrips that are large enough and condensed enough to hold you for 4-6 hours makes life without a pen (and the trippy materials and smells coming from most of them) very viable. We love the Thermo-Essence (Thermovape.com) CERA and LUNA portables though so if you're ever in the market for a portable they are the only ones we recommend. Hit us up at info@vriptech.com or simply post here if any questions of feedback you want fielded and thanks again for the interest. More on the Net Gen Vrip coming soon….
After going to bed last night I realized I probably should have pointed out that although other vapes in the "all glass" (or really mostly glass) class call themselves "modular" only the Vrip was 100% designed by intention to be modular specifically in terms of being compatible with virtually all water pipes or bubblers using the standard fittings, or if not using standard fittings, by adaptor and maintaining this ritual as closely as possible while evolving from smoke to vapor. If you compare the form factors the Vrip is also the most ergonomic in this context as the VHW is the smallest and easy to hold all glass path (medical grade silicone seal is external and not in the path) heat source available and the VCBS is really just a carefully tooled bowl with a funneled intake to accept the VHW.
And as Charliedontsurf pointed out above the closest you'll get to the same quality of vapor and a mostly glass path, but with the durability of having the glass encapsulated element further encapsulated with a housing, and/or if you want one handed function once everything is assembled and warmed than the Cloud with one of their hydotubes is hands down (or at least one hand down) the choice. When we get customers who are all about the purity and flavor potential of an all glass rig, but are intimidated by the exposed glass of the VHW or don't want to hold both the wand and the water tool we always push the VapeXhale Cloud as the current best option to the Vrip.
And as Charliedontsurf pointed out above the closest you'll get to the same quality of vapor and a mostly glass path, but with the durability of having the glass encapsulated element further encapsulated with a housing, and/or if you want one handed function once everything is assembled and warmed than the Cloud with one of their hydotubes is hands down (or at least one hand down) the choice. When we get customers who are all about the purity and flavor potential of an all glass rig, but are intimidated by the exposed glass of the VHW or don't want to hold both the wand and the water tool we always push the VapeXhale Cloud as the current best option to the Vrip.
Any update on the GonG chamber and cover? I dropped the upper piece of my vaporization chamber while cleaning yesterday and really don't want to spend 60 dollars on a new chamber if the GonG setup is going to be available anytime soon.
Is it possible to only purchase the upper piece of the vaporization chamber?
Is it possible to only purchase the upper piece of the vaporization chamber?
Raskin666
Doom Walrus
I am certainly considering adding one to the mix the more I read! I LOVE the VWT Perk
I tried emailing info@vriptech but haven't received any replies so I'll try here (should have started here now that I think about it). I've owned both version one and version two of the VHW and agree with most that this is the greatest vapor tool in the market.
I recently damaged my 2nd glass cover however and need a replacement. It sounds as if a new generation of the VHW is coming out or is already out? The website says generation, is this the generation that you (Shadowvape) are talking about? Is the version that doesn't require the silicon tip out yet? When will the new glass cover come out that you're alluding to? What are the major differences between version 2 and 3? Also, I have the standard VCB and not the shorty. Does the shorty perform better in your opinion? And is it the shorty version that does not have the rubber grommet?
I'm looking forward to hearing back from you.
I recently damaged my 2nd glass cover however and need a replacement. It sounds as if a new generation of the VHW is coming out or is already out? The website says generation, is this the generation that you (Shadowvape) are talking about? Is the version that doesn't require the silicon tip out yet? When will the new glass cover come out that you're alluding to? What are the major differences between version 2 and 3? Also, I have the standard VCB and not the shorty. Does the shorty perform better in your opinion? And is it the shorty version that does not have the rubber grommet?
I'm looking forward to hearing back from you.
I own version 3 (the one currently for sale on the website) of the VHW Heat Wand along with the shorty bowl. The shorty bowl does have the rubber grommet and version 3 of the heat cover uses the silicone tip.
As far as I know the new versions are not available yet. I am waiting on it too as I have recently broken my bowl and chamber and would prefer to wait to buy the new version instead of both.
As far as I know the new versions are not available yet. I am waiting on it too as I have recently broken my bowl and chamber and would prefer to wait to buy the new version instead of both.
Thanks for the reply niqnak! It looks like I'll wait for the newest generation then. Hopefully we'll find an approximate date as to when it will be released. Now, what will I do with my two older elements?! Haha.
Mini Bones
Member
any word from anyone on the newest version coming out?
WaxOnWaxOff
Well-Known Member
I am anxiously awaiting this as well! I've wanted one of these for years. I love my valloon setup.
Mini Bones
Member
someone seems to be sleeping at the wheel...
SunnyHours
Well-Known Member
I'm quite panicking! I've been using my VHW today as usual, took a hit amongst others about 40 minutes ago, and now I want to take another hit and the light doesn't turn red, neither does the heating element, nothing's working! It was fine earlier today.
I'm worried and kinda pissed off since I'm probably gonna have to spend some money to get it fixed...especially since it's some kind of defect...
This really sucks...even more since my birthday is in 18 days -_-
On the bright side of things I have an SSV on the way
I'm worried and kinda pissed off since I'm probably gonna have to spend some money to get it fixed...especially since it's some kind of defect...
This really sucks...even more since my birthday is in 18 days -_-
On the bright side of things I have an SSV on the way
Sorry for the slow reply family Mark had been traveling out of pocket and I wanted him to give me an update on the new VHW cover to give you an accurate heads up on the new pieces --- the heater manufacturer now has a sample of the new cover the way we want to change the method of attachement (we're trying an alternative approach to the retaining screw) and we are still awaiting their reply on whether or not they can do it that way and how much --- the million dollar question!!! The great news is that on the glass front we've got the new bowls tooled and dialed and only need to get the new glass screens made (slightly smaller than the current large glass screen and slightly bigger than the current small glass screen). Since we will continue to make pieces to support the legacy units out there we will likely start selling the new bowls with upper intakes to accept the existing wand with tip seal and, of course, our old stand-bys the Steinel heat guns before the whole new VHW set up is available. Stay posted and thanks for the patience and support!
SunnyHours sorry to hear about what sounds like an element failure --- keep in mind the elements contain both the actual element and the thermocouple so either internal component failing can cause a loss in heat, but only one will cause the loss of heat AND red light not blinking. Depending upon how long you've had it Mark often tells the tech to just repair it under warranty even if it is beyond the warranty period: a true case by case basis. I think we've already been in contact via info@vriptech.com, but just in case please send details there and I'll make sure to lobby for the best (and most cost effective) solution for you. Our warranty is only 90 days on the heaters because we sometimes get customers who absolutely abuse the units and then want them warrantied --- we'll often do it once with a warning, but obviously can't sustain business that way hence the case by case basis. We'll get you back to Vripping ASAP!
SunnyHours sorry to hear about what sounds like an element failure --- keep in mind the elements contain both the actual element and the thermocouple so either internal component failing can cause a loss in heat, but only one will cause the loss of heat AND red light not blinking. Depending upon how long you've had it Mark often tells the tech to just repair it under warranty even if it is beyond the warranty period: a true case by case basis. I think we've already been in contact via info@vriptech.com, but just in case please send details there and I'll make sure to lobby for the best (and most cost effective) solution for you. Our warranty is only 90 days on the heaters because we sometimes get customers who absolutely abuse the units and then want them warrantied --- we'll often do it once with a warning, but obviously can't sustain business that way hence the case by case basis. We'll get you back to Vripping ASAP!