Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

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Jman5280

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THC SCIENTIFIC said:
@assman the cones are only available on the ophos itself because the ophos has the outer threading to allow it to be screwed on.


@Jman5280 possible to show me a picture?
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I sent my pics in as a support ticket. I'm sure you can see the photos I attached to my support ticket.

The KISS titanium cart that doesn't work looks fine but it doesn't work at all. It won't heat up and it just makes my pen flash blue when connected.

The other cartridge I got with my order works but it only heats 1/2 of the cart because the coils are only on half of the atomizer. Visually it is obvious because I can see the other cartridge's coils that are even and more symmetrical.

At the very least, I'm hoping support replaces the one that is a complete dud. It would be nice to have both replaced because I won't be using either of these titanium KISS cartridges.
 
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Just placed my order on clearance v2 omicron. Decided on that one because a friend said he would buy it from me in a couple of weeks when/if I want to upgrade. Figured it would be a good way to perfect my technique before getting the 2.5 with Herc or persi.

Questions....

I keep seeing the theme of dry burns causing leaks in the original cartridges. Every one says it's a big No no. But yet in order to test a cartridge upon arrival your supposed to see the coils heat up through the air hole? Isn't this dryburning?

Also ordered a ti kiss. Is there a pre loading routine that should be done in order to verify the cart is fully functional? (Like preheat, see if it gets warm, etc.)

Don't really want to have to load any material only to find out the cartridge is dead.
 
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okeanos coming tomorrow! I have no idea how well it will perform, but w9tech has earned my trust.
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I just got my Okeanos up and running perfectly after some clogging and leaking problems. The solutions were simple: lube the o-rings with vaseline, as well as the threads on the center post. After that, hit and enjoy!
 
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Okeanos and Hercules coming today, I am so excited! I wish I didn't have to deal with the VHS vs Betamax thing all over again - the 601 thread on the Herc is clearly superior to the 510 threads on the Okie I ordered - but the Okie will sit flush on my mech mods!
 
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Jman5280 said:
I sent my pics in as a support ticket. I'm sure you can see the photos I attached to my support ticket.

The KISS titanium cart that doesn't work looks fine but it doesn't work at all. It won't heat up and it just makes my pen flash blue when connected.

The other cartridge I got with my order works but it only heats 1/2 of the cart because the coils are only on half of the atomizer. Visually it is obvious because I can see the other cartridge's coils that are even and more symmetrical.

At the very least, I'm hoping support replaces the one thais a complete dud. It would be nice to have both replaced because I won't be using either of these titanium KISS cartridges.
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I have the same problem you have. With the coil being wrapped on one side. There are three wrapped together and one solo wrap on the far side. I've had problems with light vapor production. I've cleaned it now and I'm getting some concentrate today. And hoping I'll get more vapor. Should we be concerned of having coil on just one side. I have pressed the button to see of it still gets red and it does. I know we're not suppose to do this but I feel like it's not getting hot enough. Also I'm just holding the button down enough to see a lil red then I let go.
 
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kaisersosay415 said:
I have the same problem you have. With the coil being wrapped on one side. There are three wrapped together and one solo wrap on the far side. I've had problems with light vapor production. I've cleaned it now and I'm getting some concentrate today. And hoping I'll get more vapor. Should we be concerned of having coil on just one side. I have pressed the button to see of it still gets red and it does. I know we're not suppose to do this but I feel like it's not getting hot enough. Also I'm just holding the button down enough to see a lil red then I let go.
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Yea, mine hits fine but half the cart doesn't get vaped and just gets messy.
 
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Well I decided to pick up the phone and call regarding my Titanium KISS carts...

They are going to replace one of them but not the other. I'm definitely disappointed with the response. I figured they would replace both since both aren't working properly. BUT They said they need a better photo of the coil that's shifted to one side. BUT my camera on my phone won't focus enough on the coil. It's a bs response that they don't believe both cartridges I received were failures. Basically I paid for two Titanium KISS carts and at the end of the day I'll have just one that works.

Salty.
 
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Jman5280 said:
Well I decided to pick up the phone and call regarding my Titanium KISS carts...

They are going to replace one of them but not the other. I'm definitely disappointed with the response. I figured they would replace both since both aren't working properly. BUT They said they need a better photo of the coil that's shifted to one side. BUT my camera on my phone won't focus enough on the coil. It's a bs response that they don't believe both cartridges I received were failures. Basically I paid for two Titanium KISS carts and at the end of the day I'll have just one that works.

Salty.
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its not that we dont believe you, its that we have to make sure the claims are real, im sorry but we just cant take a chance on sending stuff out without verification. We have decided to send the single kiss cart as a act of faith, but in order for us to replace both you would need to ship both back.
 
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I will gladly ship both back. They are both useless.

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its not that we dont believe you, its that we have to make sure the claims are real, im sorry but we just cant take a chance on sending stuff out without verification. We have decided to send the single kiss cart as a act of faith, but in order for us to replace both you would need to ship both back.
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The omicron is my savior! Persei top died last week so now my Omicron HVD top is doing double duty. Using it for my Herc SR-71 and 7.4v KISS rebuilt. I guess I should give equal credit to The Core. I still miss my Persei immensely.
 
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How are you supposed to verify functionality of an original cartridge before loading if dry burns cause leaks. Everyone says heat it up before loading to verify coils are getting red. Seems like a dry burn to me, no?
 
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Caligula

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Jman5280 said:
Well I decided to pick up the phone and call regarding my Titanium KISS carts...

They are going to replace one of them but not the other. I'm definitely disappointed with the response. I figured they would replace both since both aren't working properly. BUT They said they need a better photo of the coil that's shifted to one side. BUT my camera on my phone won't focus enough on the coil. It's a bs response that they don't believe both cartridges I received were failures. Basically I paid for two Titanium KISS carts and at the end of the day I'll have just one that works.

Salty.
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Hold on now... they said they will for sure replace one and followed up by asking for a better picture of the other to verify the issue before replacing that one as well.

Am I missing something here? This all sounds pretty reasonable. I don't think its W9's fault that the fixed lens on your camera phone isnt up to snuff.

That being said, try taking the picture with better lighting and further away so you can focus in the coil, then zoom/crop the photo on your computer afterwards.

Also, dont feel so left out. Look what I got last month:

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It works... but I need to tilt the cart so oil runs to the coil end.

BTW, I used my phone to take that.

HEY @assman !

Take your cart into a dark area and hit the power until you can see the coils start to glow. This should be good enough to determine if its working properly before loading anything onto it.

With the 3.7v KISS carts, you have a lot of room for error unlike the 7.4v carts. I wouldnt be too worried about doing a short dry burn once or twice. Just be sure to let off the power as soon as you see them glow.

 
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Hi everyone,

Haven't posted here in a few years, since back in my SSV/PD herbal vaporizing days (a big thanks to Vitolo for all the help and advice back then).

Anyway, I'm pretty much oil only now, and just joined the W9 family and picked up an O-PHOS from the W9 site (along with an extra Ti KISS cart) for travel/on-the-go.

Have already gone through a G-Pen, Micro-G, and Cloud and was not happy with any of them. Chinese plastic junk.

Went back to my nail & rig until I found all the love for the W9 stuff here, so giving it a try.

I've also been following the Persei thread now. Wow, the Persei + SR74 combination sounds absolutely incredible. That may have to be my next purchase for a home system.

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@Caligula

Doesn't W9 do their own manufacturing now? Surprised that cart went out the door like that. I'll check mine out when it gets here. Fingers crossed.
 
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We do our manufacturing, but people need to understand that the reason you dont see Ti Gr 2 wire because of its difficulty of assembly and the end consumer has to compromise something in order to use it. I am not trying to be a dick seriously am not but in order for these to work techniques that have been established by regular vapes of this kind have to be modified a bit.

Example you cant take what you know about driving a regular manual vehicle and transfer it to a big rig. Or just because you can fly a Cessna does not mean you can fly a F/18 Super Hornet.


all im saying is conventional thinking when it comes to the Ti Gr 2 Kiss carts needs to be left out.
 
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I hear what you're saying, and agree completely that these ceramic wicks need to be handled a bit more gingerly compared to cheaper silica/fiberglass wicks.

My comment was really in reference to Caligula's picture. Wouldn't you agree that a cart wrapped like that should be sent back for a replacement?
 
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Todai said:
@Caligula

Doesn't W9 do their own manufacturing now? Surprised that cart went out the door like that. I'll check mine out when it gets here. Fingers crossed.
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Well, this was one of the earlier versions of he cart. TBH, Ive had 3 other Ti KISS carts (and one non Ti) and none have had this issue. Would be interested to know about the replacement aspect if it ever happened again though. My specific unit is pretty "used" (although still functions the same as it did when new, like in the above pic), so I wouldnt expect them to exchange this specific unit, regardless ;)
 
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Gotcha. Well, like I said mine is on the way, and will be my first W9 product, so will be interested to see the carts when they get here.

I assume it's rare, based on all the glowing feedback here.

I only brought it up because in addition to you, two other posters a few posts up mentioned getting carts with sloppy coil wrapping also, so just wanted to make sure it's not common.
 
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so after a weekend of playing around I can confirm that the Hercules SR71 with 3.7v black rod paired with an AW 14500 battery does in fact work on the Omicron 2.5 and Omicron HVD. I used it with 1 Ti mesh coil and loaded about .5 of material. The amount of material you load will determined how much success you will have with the 3.7v black rod. Basically you must load past the buffer on a single coil (about .3?). Once you hit the buffer, the hits become wispy. You get around the same battery life as the AW 18350, but I noticed heat up time was a bit less. From a cold start you will need to hold the button (without hitting the herc) for about 10 seconds for heat up. Then begin with very light and slow draws "cigar-style" until you get vapor. I found that the biggest benefit on the Omicron HVD is that it does not have a timeout like the persei does which makes it easier for devices that require heatup (Bender and hercules). The battery life is nowhere near an AW 18650, but the AW 14500 does last enough for 1 session before needing a recharge.

Also for those who care - voltage drop is the same on the Omicron (with AW 14500) vs the Persei (with AW 18650 2000mah). Both put out about 3.5v under load (1 ohm).
 
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It may seem the Hercules SR 74 black rod works with the Omicron but we would need more real world testing to confirm.

Till then its going to be a run at your own risk, and the Omicron v2.xx tops are warrantied no matter what you use.
 
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Try each battery at a time, could be a bad battery if your using both at the same time to charge, this way you can pin point the battery thats the issue.

Also the Omicron does not have a time limit on the circuit board, and vaporwarehouse is a authorized dealer for our products.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry, just got back from a road trip, so I just got a chance to test each battery individually. When I put the one that I have been using in the charger and when all the contacts were lined up, it did turn red for a while then green. When I try putting it back on the charger now, it flashes red.

The other battery however, when I put on the charger, won’t turn red, it just stays green. When I put that battery into the omicron the light flashes pink 3 times and it won’t turn on.
 
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BentSpace said:
Thanks for the reply. Sorry, just got back from a road trip, so I just got a chance to test each battery individually. When I put the one that I have been using in the charger and when all the contacts were lined up, it did turn red for a while then green. When I try putting it back on the charger now, it flashes red.

The other battery however, when I put on the charger, won’t turn red, it just stays green. When I put that battery into the omicron the light flashes pink 3 times and it won’t turn on.
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Dead battery its confirmed. Since the battery thats green is going pink on the Omicron and the Omicron when it flashes pink means low voltage and needs a charge.
 
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Dead battery its confirmed. Since the battery thats green is going pink on the Omicron and the Omicron when it flashes pink means low voltage and needs a charge.
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I called vaporwarehouse, they said they forwarded it to uptech and that they will call me today or tomorrow. Will they send me a new battery?
 
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Caligula said:
Hold on now... they said they will for sure replace one and followed up by asking for a better picture of the other to verify the issue before replacing that one as well.

Am I missing something here? This all sounds pretty reasonable. I don't think its W9's fault that the fixed lens on your camera phone isnt up to snuff.

That being said, try taking the picture with better lighting and further away so you can focus in the coil, then zoom/crop the photo on your computer afterwards.

Also, dont feel so left out. Look what I got last month:

uuy3.jpg


It works... but I need to tilt the cart so oil runs to the coil end.

BTW, I used my phone to take that.

HEY @assman !

Take your cart into a dark area and hit the power until you can see the coils start to glow. This should be good enough to determine if its working properly before loading anything onto it.

With the 3.7v KISS carts, you have a lot of room for error unlike the 7.4v carts. I wouldnt be too worried about doing a short dry burn once or twice. Just be sure to let off the power as soon as you see them glow.gues

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I realized I misinterpreted the prior email from their customer service on this subject. I guess they are sending me a replacement one, just not one for the one that is used. I guess I understand that, I don't know how comfortable I would feel even mailing the used one. My rage and frustration may have gotten the better of me, sorry for venting so much. Hopefully this replacement works out and I can see what this hype is all about. I guess I'm out $25 for the one with the messed up coil but I will live with it. It will all be worth it if this titanium KJSS cart is something I end up really enjoying.
 
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@Jman5280 you have your opinion and like I said we are willing to replace it once we confirm it doesn't work.

In fact send it all back and ill refund your order. Simply put we are not for everyone.

You say one thing here but something else entirely somewhere else and I'm not going to waste my time to fix a problem that you don't want to be fixed.

To think that we would just outright send out parts without verification is utter none sense. Even with veteran users we ask for the units back to make sure what the issue is if images can't be provided.
 
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