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Arizer Solo

mvapes

Scratchin' Glass!
Accessory Maker
So my M102 kicked the bucket. Don't fret, I gave him a nice resting place within the house. Hold on, holding back the tears...

I went out and found a M1c1 and it's cool. By cool I mean it runs much cooler than my original. My sessions usually started somewhere around 3 or 4 whereas with the new model I don't get any vapor (regardless of the plant) before 5. Not a big deal, still love the the solo.

Now, I also wanted to mention that I've recently acquired an Ascent. I don't want to derail the thread but I'd like to say that the solo is still my go to portable!
 

Willeh

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I rarely use my m1c1 that runs cool, it just takes too long to finish anything and doesnt vape the back of the bowl as much as I like when I dont use a grinder and screen. My newer m1e runs like 20 degrees hotter at least. My bowl packing technique is to very lovingly break the nugs up by peeling back each individual leaf and snapping them up to just a bit larger than the size of the airholes in the stem. The more loving and gentle you are in breaking it up the better it will work. I very loosely fill to just below the rim. I never pack it down at all, but try and have it all sitting in place so I could gently invert the stem without spillage. Insert the stem in an inverted solo and let it warm up to six before drawing on it at all. Using this technique of loading the bowl with the larger airholes and larger holes in the stem and no screen or restriction from grinding makes very smooth, flavorful and dense hits and doesnt require stirring. Unless its my m1c that runs cool then it hardly works at all. That unit is dome screen half bowls on 6 and 7 only. I aquired both units within the last three months.
 
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Mrmrmrmr

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So my M102 kicked the bucket. Don't fret, I gave him a nice resting place within the house. Hold on, holding back the tears...

I went out and found a M1c1 and it's cool. By cool I mean it runs much cooler than my original. My sessions usually started somewhere around 3 or 4 whereas with the new model I don't get any vapor (regardless of the plant) before 5. Not a big deal, still love the the solo.

Now, I also wanted to mention that I've recently acquired an Ascent. I don't want to derail the thread but I'd like to say that the solo is still my go to portable!
Have you experienced any flavor loss from using it at a higher temp ( even Though it runs cool )?
 
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mvapes

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There's a slight degradation a bit earlier than it used to take so yes. But, it's slight.

And @Willeh - mine is not anywhere near what your describing. I start on 5 and get a nice wispy vapor with all the taste I need, then after a few pulls I go to six for about 4 or 5 solid hits. I finish off at 7 and my abv is like roasted coffee.

Your unit may be malfunctioning cause that doesn't sound right. Plus, based on your love novel like description of how you break down your nug I'm not convinced your packing it enough.

I pack my solo to the rim and pack it down. You need a little back pressure to cook what's in the chamber correctly. If air is flowing through to easily it's not exposed to heat long enough to create vapor. Hence why your ABV looks the way it does.

I also often pack in an oil drenched piece of hemp-wick and that my friend makes for some serious medicating.

I'm actually going to use my laser thermometer and measure the heat surface on the solo at 4,5,6, and 7. If you have one of these tools run your as well and lets compare.
 
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Willeh

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Sorry mvapes, you're simply wrong as one solo I own is sex at extracting the way I use it. and the other one isn't. I've packed it in many ways and decreasing airflow through the material doesnt help at all. The way I load it without using a grinder has more than with pressure to vape nice. In one unit. Not the other. I got 2. So yeah. My one unit is malfunctioning that's what I said?
 
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Pappy

shmaporist
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Got my second Solo, a silver MIA4A, charge through model from Vaporsellers. More on that in a sec. The CPU and heater seem more powerful. When I hit it on 6 my draw brings it down to 3 lights and then back up. My older model dropped only a notch so there's no LED light show. Because the heater is more powerful I think the unit runs cooler than my older model. Seems to hold more heat in reserve and at its disposal.

I bought from Vaporsellers because they're the Arizer distributor with the lowest price, $126 shipped. Ordered it on Thursday and they didn't ship it until Tuesday. Arrived on Thursday so it took 7 days. The transaction was average, a 7. I gave a demerit for each day the unit sat without shipping. :D

Because of its efficiency, good taste, build quality, portability, and ease off use, the Solo went from a novelty sitting on my shelf to my go-to vape. As a non-water direct vapor delivery system, I love this vape!

More on my efficiency epiphany later...
 

Newcastle

Stoned!
Pappy I have the M1a4 and it does the same thing. This is my first so I have nothing to compare it to. I can drop three lights on one draw. I am not getting great battery life either. Seems always dead. Not going to let that happen again!

Oh I almost forgot...Puffitup.COM ROCKS!
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
:myday:
Because the heater is more powerful I think the unit runs cooler than my older model. Seems to hold more heat in reserve and at its disposal.
Pappy - thanks for the report! Probably due to the hour of this long day, I'm not understanding your statement; a more powerful heater that holds more heat in reserve and has at it's disposal runs cooler than the older model (paraphrased)? Please help me understand how this adds up to running cooler. As I said, I've become mentally foggy after a long day like today. Many thanks!!!
 

Pappy

shmaporist
Pappy I have the M1a4 and it does the same thing. This is my first so I have nothing to compare it to. I can drop three lights on one draw. I am not getting great battery life either. Seems always dead. Not going to let that happen again!
I don't mind it doing that. My take is the CPU/heat sensor link is more sensitive and responsive which is a good thing! Haven't had it long enough to comment on battery life.

Pappy - thanks for the report! Probably due to the hour of this long day, I'm not understanding your statement; a more powerful heater that holds more heat in reserve and has at it's disposal runs cooler than the older model (paraphrased)? Please help me understand how this adds up to running cooler. As I said, I've become mentally foggy after a long day like today. Many thanks!!!
Seems contradictory, I know. But this model seems to run cooler and heat faster which is what I was addressing. It may be technically wrong but that's my initial conclusion based on observation. This model certainly operates somewhat differently but the end result is the same.
 
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mvapes

Scratchin' Glass!
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Sorry mvapes, you're simply wrong as one solo I own is sex at extracting the way I use it. and the other one isn't. I've packed it in many ways and decreasing airflow through the material doesnt help at all. The way I load it without using a grinder has more than with pressure to vape nice. In one unit. Not the other. I got 2. So yeah. My one unit is malfunctioning that's what I said?

Wow - being called wrong is a bit harsh :uhh:

I wasn't judging you but coming from someone who's been using the solo as one of my leading vapes since the day they launched I seem to have learned a thing or two. Is there potential you got two fucked units, one running hot - one running cold?

That's why I asked for a temperature reading, it was to help, not make you feel like an asshole.

Hopefully someday I could learn a thing or two from you.
 

Snappo

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Wow - being called wrong is a bit harsh :uhh:

I wasn't judging you but coming from someone who's been using the solo as one of my leading vapes since the day they launched I seem to have learned a thing or two. Is there potential you got two fucked units, one running hot - one running cold?

That's why I asked for a temperature reading, it was to help, not make you feel like an asshole.

Hopefully someday I could learn a thing or two from you.
Agreed! One would do well to withhold conclusions and realize that in this business answers are most often found in many many shades of grey and rarely in black & white. Also, making note of one's veteran post count may hint at the experience behind the answers well worth considering supplanting one's own. Just sayin:cool:
 
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OF

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I don't mind it doing that. My take is the CPU/heat sensor link is more sensitive and responsive which is a good thing! Haven't had it long enough to comment on battery life.

This model certainly operates somewhat differently but the end result is the same.

Unlike flying, I don't think this is 'trust your instruments' country. First off, don't mistake the 'dip' as being more sensitive, the heater is on or off. If it senses the hit and turns the heater on that's the total job, the rest is pretty lights.

Likewise, I think, the 'the lights show it's much faster to heat up (but the vapor isn't there yet)' should not be taken at face value. No vapor means no heat.

The results are, I think, a more reliable indicator. If it takes two minutes to make good vapor even if the lights say it's ready at one, it still takes two minutes. You buy it to make vapor, not to watch the lights.

Agreed! One would do well to withhold conclusions and realize that in this business answers are found in many many shades of grey and rarely in black & white.

Boy you said a mouthful there, Brother. It is most definitely a very personal thing. We cover a very wide spectrum with tolerance, available herb, experience, and so on even before we break into the MMJ and recreational groups. Then, heaven help us all, that big cloud thing comes up........

It only stands to reason that which 'fits my pistol' to a tee might be all wrong for you.

OF
 

Cosmos

New Member
I have noticed that in a few pictures that have been posted, the black finish on the solo is fairly susceptible to scratches in the paint on both the top rim, and the border around the buttons. I know this is hardly a big deal, but I am just curious: People who have silver solos, does it get dirty or show scratches? People who have black solos, do the scratches even matter to you?
 
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thesoloman

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I have noticed that in a few pictures that have been posted, the black finish on the solo is fairly susceptible to scratches in the paint on both the top rim, and the border around the buttons. I know this is hardly a big deal, but I am just curious: People who have silver solos, does it get dirty or show scratches? People who have black solos, do the scratches even matter to you?
I think the scratches add character personally. I hit the top of my solo with an axe one time by accident... well technically it was a hatchet, but same difference.
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
I have noticed that in a few pictures that have been posted, the black finish on the solo is fairly susceptible to scratches in the paint on both the top rim, and the border around the buttons. I know this is hardly a big deal, but I am just curious: People who have silver solos, does it get dirty or show scratches? People who have black solos, do the scratches even matter to you?
If scratched, you can use a black Sharpie marker. I've had mine about a year and not a scratch:brow:.
 

Willeh

Well-Known Member
Sorry mvapes, theres no tone on the Internet and I think you misinterpreted what I wrote. I was saying you were wrong about my bowls not being packed/tight enough because you were, I pack them with love and the right amount of pack and thats a touchy issue ;). I've owned four solos, wrote one of the first reviews on here with a launch one I ordered launch day. I still have 3 of the four, but this m1c solo definitely is the anomoly of the 4 and doeant get as hot. The other three are very similar in temperature.. No laser thermometer here sadly.
 

Pappy

shmaporist
Unlike flying, I don't think this is 'trust your instruments' country. First off, don't mistake the 'dip' as being more sensitive, the heater is on or off. If it senses the hit and turns the heater on that's the total job, the rest is pretty lights.

Likewise, I think, the 'the lights show it's much faster to heat up (but the vapor isn't there yet)' should not be taken at face value. No vapor means no heat.

The results are, I think, a more reliable indicator. If it takes two minutes to make good vapor even if the lights say it's ready at one, it still takes two minutes. You buy it to make vapor, not to watch the lights.
Agree with everything you say. Mine is producing clouds when the light hits 6. The LED cycle syncs with my inhale and when I next inhale, at 6, I blow another cloud. I'm pleased with the way my unit works. There appears to be a direct correlation between the heat and LED levels on my unit but I agree with you it's not aviation equipment. :)

I'm using PV Turbo GonG and 18mm M2F angle adapter mouthpiece.
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dannomac21

Account Closed
Hey guys,

So a while back, I had a unit with a defective internal charger, sent it in for replacement. Got an M1B1 as a replacement, and after attempting to use that 8 or 9 times, I realized I was getting no vapor from it/was insanely hard to pull. They agreed to let me send it in. They got it, and said it had an "unrepairable circuit issue" and sent me another new one, this time an M1T0 model.

Every time I draw vapor from this one, the temperature on the solo goes down. Whether I'm vaping at a 4, 5, or 6, the red temperature light will come on and slowly go down to 2. And again, only happens WHILE I'm pulling on the tube.

Is this another defective unit? Or should this be happening? I have an M1A4 as well, and that works perfectly, so luckily, this is just kind of my backup.

What do you guys think? As far as vapor and everything else on the new one, it pulls fine. But it feels a lot easier to draw from than my M1A4, and again, with the temperature going down every time I draw, I don't wanna be wasting vapor.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Hey guys,

So a while back, I had a unit with a defective internal charger, sent it in for replacement. Got an M1B1 as a replacement, and after attempting to use that 8 or 9 times, I realized I was getting no vapor from it/was insanely hard to pull. They agreed to let me send it in. They got it, and said it had an "unrepairable circuit issue" and sent me another new one, this time an M1T0 model.

Every time I draw vapor from this one, the temperature on the solo goes down. Whether I'm vaping at a 4, 5, or 6, the red temperature light will come on and slowly go down to 2. And again, only happens WHILE I'm pulling on the tube.

Is this another defective unit? Or should this be happening? I have an M1A4 as well, and that works perfectly, so luckily, this is just kind of my backup.

What do you guys think? As far as vapor and everything else on the new one, it pulls fine. But it feels a lot easier to draw from than my M1A4, and again, with the temperature going down every time I draw, I don't wanna be wasting vapor.
This "my Solo drops when I hit it" thing I think can easily be explained...

See, my Solo doesn't do that, MAYBE one LED drop... the difference between my Solo and yours and @Pappy's Solo is probably the fact that you guys have a more open airflow... and the LED's between 2 and 7 only go up incrementally, maybe 5-10 degrees difference compared to the ~200 f difference from 1 to 2. My Solo is the old-school "restricted draw, charge only" model.

So, draw the same, and you're pushing cold air through the Solo faster than I can.
 

spoutti

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Old M1A4, like 1 year? Just curious because there are old and new m1a4.

Is your cloud production ok? My guess is arizer put the heat sensor in a different place. Or they changed the software. Explaining my random darker outer layer of my bowl i had with a march2014 solo. But I doubt you are wasting vapor.

Hey guys,

So a while back, I had a unit with a defective internal charger, sent it in for replacement. Got an M1B1 as a replacement, and after attempting to use that 8 or 9 times, I realized I was getting no vapor from it/was insanely hard to pull. They agreed to let me send it in. They got it, and said it had an "unrepairable circuit issue" and sent me another new one, this time an M1T0 model.

Every time I draw vapor from this one, the temperature on the solo goes down. Whether I'm vaping at a 4, 5, or 6, the red temperature light will come on and slowly go down to 2. And again, only happens WHILE I'm pulling on the tube.

Is this another defective unit? Or should this be happening? I have an M1A4 as well, and that works perfectly, so luckily, this is just kind of my backup.

What do you guys think? As far as vapor and everything else on the new one, it pulls fine. But it feels a lot easier to draw from than my M1A4, and again, with the temperature going down every time I draw, I don't wanna be wasting vapor.
 

Pappy

shmaporist
This "my Solo drops when I hit it" thing I think can easily be explained...

See, my Solo doesn't do that, MAYBE one LED drop... the difference between my Solo and yours and @Pappy's Solo is probably the fact that you guys have a more open airflow... and the LED's between 2 and 7 only go up incrementally, maybe 5-10 degrees difference compared to the ~200 f difference from 1 to 2. My Solo is the old-school "restricted draw, charge only" model.

So, draw the same, and you're pushing cold air through the Solo faster than I can.
+1 I agree! Thought of that as being contributing factor. Love the increased airflow!
 

al bundy

Vaporist
If you want to cut the solo stem size in half a Pinnacle or pinnacle pro screen from the pong fits great If you use a PVHE shorty I'd say it would be like a 1/4 of a regular stem.
 

juanavape

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There are many ways to reclaim the delicious oil the Solo produces. My favorite way is still CDS's way though. Just stick the stem upside down in a bong and torch that fucker (gently and evenly). I'm usually high as a kite after two or tree hits that way, and it's free!

There is a video in this thread somewhere where he shows how he does it.

edit: damn I'm good, I managed to find the fucker.

Lo and behold, one of the most awesomest videos on FC:


And in case you want to check out his original post: boom

Gone...... like yesterdays vapor, bummer.
 

llamaman001

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My stem was almost a completely dark/light brown honey color all the way through...I just took 2 massive hits through my matrix doing it this way...OH MAMA! I was dreading having to make the milk but this way is SO much better!
 
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