Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

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twigs

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@twigs isn't your second session on the same stuff pretty different? All the low temp compounds say up to 380 degrees F will be in your first session, and the ones that boil at high temp will be in the second session. An alternative (if you don't have a serious reason to do it the 2 session way) is the vape smaller loads, so you can pick what you want, or take everything, in each session ...

I haven't had much luck with small loads. Def calls for more "research". Thanks for the first hit tip!
 

natural farmer

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I had some luck with small loads (just covering the screen) but it requires a veeeery slow draw... MFLB slow! Maybe even slower. When things start swirling around not much is happening. :2c: Full, coarse, lightly tamped down loads work the best so far. I prefer my Lotus with small loads.
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
I haven't had much luck with small loads. Def calls for more "research". Thanks for the first hit tip!

I'm with ya. Four months, four different FFs...none of em perform great with small loads. Best results for me always come with a packed bowl, loosely ground or even unground, around .1-.15ish g's. Small loads do not extract fully for me.
 

NYC5IKH5jabi

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has anyone else used the firefly upside down while drawing? with small loads the flowers don't make contact with the screen at all so when you pull slowly you can get a pretty full hit or two and it worn burn IME.
 

fernand

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No idea why the diff, but I sometimes drop in really tiny pinches, and they extract well. I just let the fluff do what it wants. It is hot air and not hot s..c driven after all. Whoa big storm just came into San Francisco Bay. .creen.cree.cre.cr
Anybody getting this sort of extra chars on this site like on my Android smartphone?
 

Billtronics

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Just got my silver FF. Like someone else mentioned before, it does remind me of a sleek silver Mercedes or BMW. Anyway, I'm happy to report that its maiden voyage was successful. I read this entire thread and thanks to everyone's great suggestions, achieved nice cloudy hits first try (2 and really big 3rd hits, before cashing out at 7 hits). Should take long before me and her become really familiar with one another.

I normally use an LSV, but I can see that this may end up being in my pocket quite often. So far it seems like it has more than enough power for my liking and the taste is on par with what I would expect from a convection vape. The vapor is the coolest I have tasted without water. Very well designed!!

Thanks again for all the great info on this thread!
 

euph0ric1

Floating on.
I am thinking of trying aromatic pipe tobacco in there as they "recommend" in their FAQ... Anyone tried some?

I considered it, but then worried about the extreme nicotene buzz I would recieve from vaping tobacco, being a non-smoker. As an alternative, I've successfully tried vaping several different organic aromatherapy herbs like Damiana, Raspberry Leaf, Thyme, and Green Tea with some good-tasting (and slightly medicating) results. Both in the FireFly and the Pax. These herbs, and several others, have an ideal vape temp for good use in both of the vaporizers. Some others require a much lower temp and can taste funky.. But those herbs serve me well for similar purposes that you mentioned.

Fun fact: Mixing Cannabis with Damiana and Raspberry Leaf provides a nice synergy, giving a pleasing taste and odor. (The Raspberry significantly lessens the Cannabis odor). It also still medicates quite well. However, these herbs are usually very dry and tend to break up very finely.. So they work better in the Pax.. But still manage to give decent results in the FF if you don't mind a little debris.
 

bellas

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So what do you guys do to search the FC forum?
Do you tell Google to only search here with the site: term?

Arriba Caliente, si!

Are these guys soliciting "direct sales"?

This is one thing that worries me long term ... What kind of material would work well, and what kind of adhesive?

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I found this site while looking for spare parts:
http://www.vaporexperts.com/parts-accessories/portable-parts/firefly-parts
 

fernand

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And there is an extreme buzz from vaping tobacco. I have done it in more than one vaporizer in the past.
Some folks that try, until they learn to REALLY moderate their use, break out in a sweat the first time!

After a few tries you don't sweat or feel nauseous, and then you start to enjoy it. Best to avoid. When you think about it, a LOT of people who have no money to spare end up spending as much as $20 a day for cigarettes. That's $600 a month. My friend B. was broke and still couldn't quit the cigarettes. Bad cost/benefit ratio, and makes you deathly sick. Fortunately he finally 100% switched to vaping, at least he's not breathing all that carcinogenic combustion soup, and it costs a fraction of what tobacco costs.

[OK, sorry about that, but having been there, it's not a moralizing thing, it's just economics.]

OK, since i Like the FireFly as an oil rig, here is how, very simple. The metallic pad is best done with Stainless Steel. It's right on the hot air inlet, it vapes well, but easy on the throat, and the flavor is great.

To make a pad, The S&B Volcano Oil Pad for Easy Valve is a 30 mm "tube sock" of SS weave that was turned inside out repeatedly to create a puck. You can find it on ebay, unfold it, cut into sections, and turn it into several smaller Oil Pucks for your FireFly and your other vapes. The material in the photo is a fine bronze wool. I was going to get Stainless Steel wool, but $OF mentioned the superior S&B Volcano Pad material.

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mondomojo

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They seem to have the same prices as Vapeworld. It appears that FF has limited distribution channels to help keep the prices up. Darn shame. The extra batteries and charging apparatus is of a proprietary design, priced higher than it needs to be and only available from a few sources. The inventor of the FF worked for Apple and has borrowed heavily from its business model. Uhggg. I hate feeling taxed for preferring a superior product. I ordered a spare battery but am dragging my feet on acquiring the charging gear as $45 for the complete kit seems awful high for what should cost less than half that. Since I mostly vape alone I should be able to get by.
 
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Mynameismud

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They seem to have the same prices as Vapeworld. It appears that FF has limited distribution channels to help keep the prices up. Darn shame. The extra batteries and charging apparatus is of a proprietary design, priced higher than it needs to be and only available from a few sources. The inventor of the FF worked for Apple and has borrowed heavily from its business model. Uhggg. I hate feeling taxed for preferring a superior product. I ordered a spare battery but am dragging my feet on acquiring the charging gear as $45 for the complete kit seems awful high for what should cost less than half that. Since I mostly vape alone I should be able to get by.
Why do you need another charger with the battery? Unless your original charger broke, or you plan on using the external charger...but that would run you $75...

If your vaping alone you shouldnt need another battery although it would come in handy.

I usually just plug it in after a session take about 10 minutes to charge back up, and even when it dies it only take about 40 mins...
 
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mondomojo

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Why do you need another charger with the battery? Unless your original charger broke, or you plan on using the external charger...but that would run you $75...

If your vaping alone you shouldnt need another battery although it would come in handy.

I usually just plug it in after a session take about 10 minutes to charge back up, and even when it dies it only take about 40 mins...

I don't "need" another charger or battery, but it sure will make it convenient when I space out and forget to plug the unit in. Nothing worse than the flashing red light when you're ready to go. I have a second battery on the way so I can have a backup in the case I space out. The charger would be nice as I could leave it out and charge batteries without leaving the FF laying about.

None of this is necessity, just pure convenience. I still think this is beside the point that they overcharge for a battery charger. It's $30 for the battery cradle and another $15 if you want to have a dedicated power charger. Otherwise you have to use the one included with the FF which prevents you from charging 2 batteries simultaneously. I think $20 - $25 for the whole charging kit would be fair, but not $45. It's not like I didn't pay a fair price for the FF. Like Apple, they play "gotcha" at every turn.
 

Mrbinky

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I just got my Firefly a couple of days ago.

I "Finger ground" technique to 2-3mm bits, but I didn't get good vapor-very weak. I tried different draw speeds, and managed to scorch it a bit, but still disappointed with the strength.

I noticed my bud was pretty dense and hard to break apart.

Do "fluffier" varieties tend to work better? Any recommendations?
 
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Billtronics

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I just got my Firefly a couple of days ago.

I "Finger ground" technique to 2-3mm bits, but I didn't get good vapor-very weak. I tried different draw speeds, and managed to scorch it a bit, but still disappointed with the strength.

I noticed my bud was pretty dense and hard to break apart.

Do "fluffier" varieties tend to work better? Any recommendations?
So far, I've found that tighter buds work best for me and if they are a bit sticky even better, med. finger ground, tamped fairly well. I have a fluffier variety that crumbles much more easily so it's harder to get a good medium grind without it crumbling into a fine to very fine powder. Also, it seems to combust much easier when I use that variety.

I do a 8-10 sec warmup before starting the draw of the first hit. Hold heater button down while drawing until you start to "feel" the vapor in your lungs and then let go. Continue drawing for another 7-10 seconds or so. First one will be wispy but oh so tasty. Then only a 4-5 second warmup before drawing subsequent hits.

I'm learning that draw speed/depth seems to be the real key. I am still getting used to it, but it is a work in progress. I kinda use the "kissing" type method of drawing. Not puffing like a cigar but a steady draw with my lips pursed as if I was kissing the FF!

OFF TOPIC a bit:

I was looking for a name for my FF as she definitely feels like a "her" to me. Since she matches my LSV so perfectly, it hit me. The LSV (Life Saber Vape) is named "Luke" cause it looked so sci-fi and light saber-esque, so it just seems natural that her name should be Leia, waddya think?

Luke and Leia together:
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
I just got my Firefly a couple of days ago.

I "Finger ground" technique to 2-3mm bits, but I didn't get good vapor-very weak. I tried different draw speeds, and managed to scorch it a bit, but still disappointed with the strength.

I noticed my bud was pretty dense and hard to break apart.

Do "fluffier" varieties tend to work better? Any recommendations?

Practice. Adjust draw speeds, bowl pack, and grind, until you get results you like. Try a pre-heat of four or so seconds before drawing. Draw as fast as resistance allows but no faster. Hold the button longer till you get bigger hits.

It takes a while to develop effective technique. Don't get discouraged. You'll get it.
 
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fernand

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I just got a few of the Boveda humidifier pads. Their claim to fame is that unlike say sponges or lettuce they withdraw excess moisture, and unlike the little pharmaceutical silica pucks they add moisture - bidirectionally to maintain the RH on the label. For cannabis they recommend their 62 % units, and claim that it will keep indefinitely if sealed with a Boveda pack. They have a whole spiel about curing and storing cannabis. Anyway I'm wondering if the varying humidity of the herb could be throwing some people's firefly experience off. Maybe check humidity if u have a hygrometer and shoot for 62 on all samples?

@Billtronics that's a very lovely pair. When the babies come, may I have one?
What is Luke? I mean who made him and all that. I've never seen THAT!
 
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euph0ric1

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I just got a few of the Boveda humidifier pads.

I ordered mine too and am wondering something: I store my herb inside a sandwich baggie, which is then inside a hermetically sealed glass jar. Are these humidifier pads (or any other humidifying agent) supposed to be inside the baggie, as close to the herb as possible? Or is inside the jar, outside the baggie ok for it to work?
 
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Adobewan

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Got my Firefly from @Mynameismud(super solid member!) and this is absolutely one of the most beautiful vapes made. Won't be able to use it till this weekend(birthday!!) but am loving just holding it(and posing smartly with it). I remember seeing the first pic way back when and falling for it then. Love that you can get different covers to change color if the mood strikes.
Can't wait for the weekend!
I ordered mine too and am wondering something: I store my herb inside a sandwich baggie, which is then inside a hermetically sealed glass jar. Are these humidifier pads (or any other humidifying agent) supposed to be inside the baggie, as close to the herb as possible? Or is inside the jar, outside the baggie ok for it to work?
@euph0ric1
I think your meds might be better off in just the sealed glass jar.
Trichomes rub off your meds and stick to the interior of the plastic bag, and I believe plastic corrupts what it's containing overtime.
Glass, OTOH, is super friendly to meds! Best to have different sized jars so that as you quantity of meds reduces, you can transfer to a smaller jar because the less air the better.
Then just toss in the humidipak and keep the glass jar out of the light(unless it's a solid black or dark blue.)
 

Mynameismud

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Why do you need another charger with the battery? Unless your original charger broke, or you plan on using the external charger...but that would run you $75...

If your vaping alone you shouldnt need another battery although it would come in handy.

I usually just plug it in after a session take about 10 minutes to charge back up, and even when it dies it only take about 40 mins...
Gotcha. As i was saying in case you dont know, the external charger does not come with a plug i believe so if you wanna charge both at the same time Youll need an extra plug too.



@Adobewan glad it made it safely and you like it. :rockon: Hopefully youll like it even more once you get to finally use it. Let us know your thoughts after. Have a good birthday
 
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Billtronics

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@Billtronics that's a very lovely pair. When the babies come, may I have one?
What is Luke? I mean who made him and all that. I've never seen THAT!

Luke is a Life Saber Vaporizer. It's a plugin convection vape that's powerful enough to work with anything you could think of. It really shines when paired with glass. Check em out in the plugin section of this forum!!
 

Mynameismud

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I ordered mine too and am wondering something: I store my herb inside a sandwich baggie, which is then inside a hermetically sealed glass jar. Are these humidifier pads (or any other humidifying agent) supposed to be inside the baggie, as close to the herb as possible? Or is inside the jar, outside the baggie ok for it to work?
Like adobewan mentioned, you should ditch the baggies altogether. Get a glass container, or tightvac, or cvault. All will work much better and you put the humidipak directly in the container with herb.

I really like the cvault cause it has a slot to hold the humidipak in the lid.

Tightvacs are also nice and easier to find in person but they arent exactly airproof and the humidipaks dont last nearly as long as they do in the cvault.

THIS pad is perfect sized, and of highest quality Stainless Steel. The cost is reasonable, and it should be in stock before long. It also may be available at PlanetVape soon.. as they carry the Herbalizer now.
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Edit: Images of it in place in the FF...
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Looks really messy. How is it switching back to herbs, cleaning it up after
 
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