Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

kushcabbage · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
Since I just want to load shatter and waxes as I go with the KISS titanium cartridge, would the Persei or Omicron give me any benefits over the Omicron Lite?

Can you use the lite while plugged in?

if you'd rather be more dependent on batteries, (with a passthrough option from the core) go with the omicron or persei. or be more dependent on carrying around a usb cord, I use my omicron lite with a carbon fiber wrap over it, looks great with a black kiss cart. The unit can be used while plugged in at the bottom.

Mynameismud · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
Since I just want to load shatter and waxes as I go with the KISS titanium cartridge, would the Persei or Omicron give me any benefits over the Omicron Lite?

Can you use the lite while plugged in?

If i was going to buy something just for the kiss right now i would go with the mini omicron. Its only 79.99 on vaporwarehouse and comes with a kiss cartridge... But thats just me

Caligula · Mar 30, 2014

Mynameismud said:
If i was going to buy something just for the kiss right now i would go with the mini omicron. Its only 79.99 on vaporwarehouse and comes with a kiss cartridge... But thats just me

FWIW it doesn't come with a Ti KISS, but the standard non Ti version. However I believe they will upgrade you for an extra 8 bucks or whatever the cost difference in carts is. You need to email them tho.

Also I agree on an Omi mini vs a lite. That way you cab just carry a spare battery just in case.

Regardless, I gave my best suggestion already. Standard Omicron. Lots of upgrade options, the ability to make it shorter/smaller, and the fact that it already comes with a Ti KISS cart.

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

after watching all these videos I think I am going to regret not getting the full blown package...persei + herc.

I was intimidated about using a torch to fill the Hercules-sr74 cartridge but it doesnt seem too hard

+ if I buy the persei and hercules will I need to be exra batteries to get the herc working?

THC SCIENTIFIC · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
+ if I buy the persei and hercules will I need to be exra batteries to get the herc working?

You do not need a torch on the Herc at all, only batteries you would need is aw imr 18350's 2 of them to achieve 7.4v.

Darb · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
+ if I buy the persei and hercules will I need to be exra batteries to get the herc working?

Best to buy some 18350 AW IMR's and a better charger. I would recommend at least 4 batteries.

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

THC SCIENTIFIC said:
You do not need a torch on the Herc at all, only batteries you would need is aw imr 18350's 2 of them to achieve 7.4v.

dont those batteries come with the persei?

I know you wouldn't torch the Herc, but don't you need a torch to fill the Herc? Filling cartridiges seems intimidating but seems tons of people do it no problem.

according to the manual wouldnt I need a 18650 to run this at 3.7v? the way it comes wont it only run 7.4v?
To run the KISS cartridge would I need to buy the 18650?
Am I correct that the Persei doesn't come with batteries to run at 3.7?

kindbeats · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
dont those batteries come with the persei?

I know you wouldn't torch the Herc, but don't you need a torch to fill the Herc? Filling cartridiges seems intimidating but seems tons of people do it no problem.

The original style carts are the only ones that required heat and a fill tool to load. The Hercules is literally as simple as drop some wax/shatter/oil in it and you're ready to rip!

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

kindbeats said:
The original style carts are the only ones that required heat and a fill tool to load. The Hercules is literally as simple as drop some wax/shatter/oil in it and you're ready to rip!

thanks man...that helps me lean that way.

I don't understand this voltage thing? if I plan to use the hercules do I need a different voltage than when I am using the KISS cart that comes with it?

thx

iceman42593 · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
according to the manual wouldnt I need a 18650 to run this at 3.7v? the way it comes wont it only run 7.4v?
To run the KISS cartridge would I need to buy the 18650?
Am I correct that the Persei doesn't come with batteries to run at 3.7?

the persei does not come with a battery to run 3.7v that is correct. You can either buy an 18650 battery or get the persei SS kit which will allow you to use one 18350 battery to run 3.7v in the short tube, but obviously the 18650 will give you a longer battery life.

the persei comes with a 7.4v kiss cart which will run with the included batteries but these burn out easily which is why many people recommend the 3.7v version.

the included batteries i do not believe are AW batteries anymore which is why you were told to get different 18350 batteries as the hercules requires a lot of power to run which the aw brand are meant to deliver. people have had mixed success with using other brand batteries to power the hercules.

Caligula · Mar 30, 2014

@Jman5280

To load the hercules you simply drop a decent chunk of material into the metal cylinder you see in the picture below. That melts into the metal coil you can see inside said cylinder. It will melt in on its own when you power up the unit.

Once its loaded it all screws back together like this:

Then attach to your Persei and enjoy!

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

iceman42593 said:
the persei does not come with a battery to run 3.7v that is correct. You can either buy an 18650 battery or get the persei SS kit which will allow you to use one 18350 battery to run 3.7v in the short tube, but obviously the 18650 will give you a longer battery life.

the persei comes with a 7.4v kiss cart which will run with the included batteries but these burn out easily which is why many people recommend the 3.7v version.

the included batteries i do not believe are AW batteries anymore which is why you were told to get different 18350 batteries as the hercules requires a lot of power to run which the aw brand are meant to deliver. people have had mixed success with using other brand batteries to power the hercules.

thank you.

I'm building my shopping cart...now I noticed that they offer different ma settings for the 18650 battery, 1600ma and 2000ma...what is the difference?

THC SCIENTIFIC · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
according to the manual wouldnt I need a 18650 to run this at 3.7v? the way it comes wont it only run 7.4v?
To run the KISS cartridge would I need to buy the 18650?
Am I correct that the Persei doesn't come with batteries to run at 3.7?

The Persei kit comes with standard imr batteries that run the 7.4v kiss cart that's included, to run the Herc you would need the stronger AW imr batteries.

To run a 3.7v kiss cart you would need a 3.7v kiss cart and a 18650 preferably a AW 18650.

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

Caligula said:
@Jman5280

To load the hercules you simply drop a decent chunk of material into the metal cylinder you see in the picture below. That melts into the metal coil you can see inside said cylinder. It will melt in on its own when you power up the unit.

Once its loaded it all screws back together like this:

Then attach to your Persei and enjoy!

that looks awesome, i can do that.

THC SCIENTIFIC said:
The Persei kit comes with standard imr batteries that run the 7.4v kiss cart that's included, to run the Herc you would need the stronger AW imr batteries.

To run a 3.7v kiss cart you would need a 3.7v kiss cart and a 18650 preferably a AW 18650.

thanks.

To be clear, the batteries that come with the Persei wont power the Hercules sr74? if not, what do I need? Im building my shopping cart now... thx

Caligula said:
@Jman5280

To load the hercules you simply drop a decent chunk of material into the metal cylinder you see in the picture below. That melts into the metal coil you can see inside said cylinder. It will melt in on its own when you power up the unit.

Once its loaded it all screws back together like this:

Then attach to your Persei and enjoy!

hey whats that attachment on the bottom of yours?

Caligula · Mar 30, 2014

Thats not mine, but I think youre talking about the extra long Persei battery tube? Thats called the "SS" kit. Lets you use larger batteries for extended life between charges.

To power the Sr74 you want at least one set (2 units) of "AW" branded 18350 IMR batteries. W9 sells these.

I actually suggest two sets of batteries and a quality charger like the Nitecore i4:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005UAI372?pc_redir=1396053626&robot_redir=1

iceman42593 · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
thank you.

I'm building my shopping cart...now I noticed that they offer different ma settings for the 18650 battery, 1600ma and 2000ma...what is the difference?

higher the ma the longer the battery lasts

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

so to be clear...with the Hercules sr-74:

Hercules will only work with Persei not Omicorn?

its not only for oil, You can put shatter right onto the Hercules without a torch or lighter?

The batteries that come with Persei will run the Hercules just fine?

Caligula · Mar 30, 2014

Without confusing things too much:

Yes. You need a Persei.

Yes.

No. You should get at least TWO "AW" brand 18350 IMR batteries. These are sold as optional equipment on the W9 website. They do NOT come with the Persei or Hercules.

Darb · Mar 30, 2014

NibblerXL, black SR-71 rod, and TI coils on the way!!!

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

so what is it that the Persei can do that the Omicorn cant? Does Hercules work with Omicorn?

kushcabbage · Mar 30, 2014

Jman5280 said:
so what is it that the Persei can do that the Omicorn cant? Does Hercules work with Omicorn?

there is a 3.7 version of the herc, also a passthrough with the HVD (high voltage discharge head) that you can use it as 7.4

Jman5280 · Mar 30, 2014

alright well i have decided i am buying the Persei.

I want to use the shatter, wax, budder that my dispensary has to offer...

Will simply ordering the Persei with the Hercules 74 be sufficient enough to get me started? or do I need more in my cart?

To confirm, I will be able to simply scoop some shatter or wax and put it onto the coils of the Hercules? Doing this is going to get me more ripped than running a 3.7v KISS?

Thanks for all the help everyone!

Caligula · Mar 30, 2014

Also get two AW brand 18350 IMR batteries.

herbivore21 · Mar 30, 2014

Ok, so as I look through this thread and the specs on w9 website, it seems I could get myself an Ophos (which is 601 thread) and get a Hercules SR74 and a 3.7v heater for it and use these together. Has anyone ever tried this? The Ophos is 3.7v with 1 x 18350 battery isn't it?

I don't think I can justify paying 3 times as much for a bulkier, less discrete product that I am planning to use in public when I can get the smaller one so much cheaper and use it the same way. In my part of the world, ecigs are still not that common a sight to see, much less anything modded. I definitely prefer to have a product that looks like a standard ecig if possible

kushcabbage · Mar 30, 2014

herbivore21 said:
Ok, so as I look through this thread and the specs on w9 website, it seems I could get myself an Ophos (which is 601 thread) and get a Hercules SR74 and a 3.7v heater for it and use these together. Has anyone ever tried this? The Ophos is 3.7v with 1 x 18350 battery isn't it?

I don't think I can justify paying 3 times as much for a bulkier, less discrete product that I am planning to use in public when I can get the smaller one so much cheaper and use it the same way. In my part of the world, ecigs are still not that common a sight to see, much less anything modded. I definitely prefer to have a product that looks like a standard ecig if possible

the ophos and the herc are a pretty long combo to use in public, I prefer the kiss cart out and about, the herc at home so far. also the ophos version is for the standard ce4 carts to fit over the threads for ecig users. the omicron lite will look more flush with the kiss or s474

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