The Magic-Flight Launch Box (Beta)

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duh

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Hennessy1414 said:
kingcrimson said:
lolol I know this isn't the place but 'diesel' was an meant as a description not a literal need for the torch.
They reccomend a chef's crem bru le torch which is powered by butane. Mine is propane and oxygen, quite different and much hotter than just a 'tane flame.
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I can see how he got that one mixed up because you said you lit the bowl with diesel fuel. should have said the right thing in the first place. people love to get mixed up after all :p
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I don't care if you run your rig using a flame thrower - I just prefer vapes that are easy to deal with. Whatever gets you there, right? I do get the feeling that I need to come over to some of your houses and get some schooling on what medicating is really all about. :D

I'm good w/other topics on other threads - I just hate butane! ;)

BTW - Just had my 1st coming out of the van after 3 trenches and getting looks from the smokers. Ahhh, when can we show them that there is another way? I bet tobacco tastes just fine in it...
 
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Hennessy1414

Hennessy1414

Terrorist
na this is for wackee tobacee only :p

Don't disgrace your vape with such toxins. cleaning might never be able to happen :uhoh:

:peace:
 
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duh

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Found that Energizer 15 minute charger at Office Depot. Their website shows availability in local stores which is very nice and probably saved me a trip; I bought the last one at mine.

According to the docs, it charges 2450 mAh in 18 minutes and 1700 in mAh in 13, w/the 2200 and 2000 both at 15 - pretty darn good! It's a little loud. Super cool to see all the energy star and recycle logos on the package! :cool:
 
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illadelph

illadelph

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ok sorry two more questions. how long does one of the batteries last in a LB and how long does it take to charge them with the charger you can get from them?(MF)
 
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duh

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MF says the typical battery lasts one bowl or as I have found, about 3-4 minutes straight through, give or take. As you may have read from this thread, a lot of variance is in the capacity of the battery - a few ppl say they get 2 bowls out of them - I can stretch mine to 3 or 4 depending on the trench size, target abv color, etc.

The charger from MF takes a full 8 hours as most chargers do. The Energizer fast charger chews through the batteries quicker as in their lifetime will be shortly due to the nature of fast charging. I also hear that MF won't plan on offering a fast charger due to the increased cost so there a couple of options for people:

1. Buy the LB w/no charger or batteries at all and buy your own charger and sets of batteries.
2. Buy the LB w/both charger and batteries and plan usage around charge cycles.
3. Buy the LB w/both charger and batteries and buy extra charger(s) and batteries(s) later.

I went w/# 3 as I didn't know what to expect. I do like the USB and wall charger from MF as it is pretty small and travels w/me. The cool thing about having it is if I want to go really remote w/my laptop , I could charge a few LB batteries and give a little extra range time piggybacking off the laptop. Also, I'm using all the extra rechargeable AAs around the house now so I guess now I'm a bit greener. :peace:
 
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2tiki

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Over the years, I have learned a lot about battery tech (for non-vape related products I have been developing).

If your goal is to just always have batteries ready, go with a fast charger, or have 4 or 6 batteries instead of just 2.

If your goal is to make lest waist for landfills, and to get the most for your money, dedicate 4-6 batteries to your LB, and just use a 1 hour or slower charger. Even if you could go thru more than 2 batts in a night, just have enough to last a night without charging, but them in the charger over night, or in the morning, and they will be ready when needed.

I really think it is VERY bad for the environment to use the super fast chargers. They will destroy the life of rechargeable and make you over the long hall have to buy more batteries anyway. So, why not just buy a few extra now, and then slow/normal speed charge them.

That's my theory anyway.
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I wake up each "afternoon" hoping there will be a little steam punk lookin' vape waiting for me in the mail. I hope it comes this week!!! :)
 
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duh

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I second avoiding the 15 minute charger if you can schedule around it. Starting w/4-6 fresh ones per day works fine for me most days on the slow charger. It's just that 1 time when I run through all of them and no fresh ones are ready yet.... ok maybe once or twice a week tops, I swear. :brow: The fast charger is cool too if you are into rc cars and the like.

PS: Good luck, 2tiki, w/that little steam punk lookin' vape on its way to you!
 
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MrMistyTokes

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Steam Engine
I work 12h shifts in a factory- the little charger cannot cut it..I cant stand to plan a battery rotation among other things
and it only wears the batteries faster because it charges them 100% faster and if its a shitty charger will over heat them really bad.. i picked up a Duracell 15m charger for 50 bucks and i was surprised to see it has a big cooling fan and a power supply.. also LED lights with auto shutoffs.. i Would recommend it for the heavy user :D
 
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Monsoon

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Someone in the thread asked earlier about battery testers. The Maha C9000 charger can measure how much battery power is left and can do a bunch of other things. It seems to be the charger for battery geeks. One site said it will charge 2700mah batteries in 1h20min.

You can get it from Thompson-Distributing (http://tinyurl.com/ca53zv) for $48. canadians can order it (as well as all other Maha battery products) at http://www.paulsfinest.com/
 
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marcuss

marcuss

above the clouds
My question is.....it is portable or what?
One battery=one bowl.....wow with my habits i should need a bag full of batteries....and chargers...
This vape is cheap but you must spend a lot to maintain it(40/50$ for a charger??).....and you will end with a lot of dead batteries....no it is not environment friendly and i don't see its easy of use if anytime you vape you need to replace the battery.

Vapor to the world!
 
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duh

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marcuss said:
My question is.....it is portable or what?
One battery=one bowl.....wow with my habits i should need a bag full of batteries....and chargers...
This vape is cheap but you must spend a lot to maintain it(40/50$ for a charger??).....and you will end with a lot of dead batteries....no it is not environment friendly and i don't see its easy of use if anytime you vape you need to replace the battery.

Vapor to the world!
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The unit is about the size of a large pack of gum, or smaller than a deck of cards, so yes, it is portable.

Is $50 really that much? An 1/8 of high-grade is more than that. Besides, I'm not sure that you must spend a lot to maintain it ; all these fancy chargers we are talking about are basically user-mods and optional. A moderate evening user would do fine w/just a few batteries charged per day for several bowls. Finally, the 1 battery=1 bowl is not a true rule of thumb and totally depends on the user's style of hitting, capacity and life of battery, etc. - I posted about my own experience on this yesterday.

On being environmental, I'm not sure any vape is. Do you know of any made of pure bud? Otherwise, I think you may be on to something ;)

What are the alternatives? Butane canisters, is that more environmentally friendly? Did you know that rechargeable batteries can also be recycled? This unit is made of mostly wood, also recyclable (though, in my case, not any time soon :brow:).

I wonder what the cost of ownership for MMT on another vape would be - the VM3 would need multiple proprietary battery packs, the IO would need more butane. On a 12h shift, I'd rather just grab a couple of AAs like he does!

Spend the 100 bucks (or preorder for 62.77 w/no batts) and let's hear your review!
 
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marcuss

marcuss

above the clouds
Sorry but this vape doesn't convince me at all and i'll never spend 100 bucks for a piece of wood with plastic and metals with some rechargeable batteries......i'm waiting a launch tube for revue it but i'm not so excited....Please do not compare again this vape to a butane powered vape named IOlite because the comparision doesn't work and make more confusion.

Thanks and good vapor!
 
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duh

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marcuss, it sounds like you have already made up your mind even before trying any unit. What is the IO made of, isn't it metal and plastic? You seem to already have your vape collection going anyway.

I will totally continue to compare it to the IO and IOlite because I think anyone shopping for a portable vape should look at this unit. I had already compared it to a desktop vape (sacrilege, I know), so I don't see what the issue is here. Whatever works, right?

A vape is a vape is a vape!
 
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Durden

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While the MFB and the Iolite are clearly very different, I believe that it is a valid comparison to look at the heat/fuel sources. I myself am currently deciding on an ultra portable option for when I am out walking my dogs or frisbee golfing and dont want to spend 10 or 15 minutes sitting down in any one spot (aka the VG etc.), and for me the decision comes down to the MFB or the Iolite because they have independent power sources.

If you got up to spending 100 bucks on the MFB then you have around 40 dollars worth of AAs and a charger which have other uses as well. While a minor point, I may simply buy the MFB to try it out, worst case scenario Im out 65 bucks and have batteries for some wii wands.

As for being environmentally friendly you can buy 'green' batteries if thats your main concern, Ive also run across a few solar chargers for AA batteries as well that seem intriguing but IMO largely pointless.

The power supply is a main selling point for many people so when you call it not environmentally friendly you almost beg a comparison with other independent power sources since being environmentally friendly is largely a relative and subjective issue.
 
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marcuss

marcuss

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duh sounds right!...i made up my mind like you did with other vapes that you continually name to compare this one....you don't like butane vapes and we already know this but please try to be precise if you want to be useful....

I suppose that you own a Iolite to give out all those comparisions...yes?

A vape is a vape but not all are the same for me....enjoy yours.
 
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marcuss

marcuss

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Welcome TylerDuren!

Obviously it is quite hard to say that butane is not enviroment friendly, i've got a car with butane engine and it is GREEN :D
How i recycle the alu empty canister is up to me but alu is recyclabile...if you go with green rechargeable batteries ok but if not?

I try to do my best to preserve our world.......hope you do the same ;)
 
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MrMistyTokes

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AA's are clearly the most abundant, efficient, and best choice for a porty.. what else could you want- a water wheel?? I have some 2000maH that are called 'precharges' and they hold there charge for a very long time(i use for long outings).. regular rechargeables slowly discharge themself over time- its no secret, it helps them last longer.. which they do very well. I then have some 2800mahs for daily use as well that work as good as a month ago being daily rotated(topped off 2-3 times)

which brings me to this rumor that rechargeables dont last long? if you mess up and over heat them they wont last long...true...careless... but if you just keep taking fresh charge away and topping it off it will last a very long time

with my 2800's vapor pours out of the mouthpiece in seconds but amazingly still never scorches it.. they work good indeed :D
 
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DevoTheStrange

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I'm very interested in the LB, going to try to convince one of my coworkers too order it so I can try it out (I've turned all my coworkers, minus one, onto vape, and that one is only because he isnt allowed too indulge in the herb) and if I can't convince them I might just have to order myself one.
 
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Durden

Durden

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For anyone looking to preorder the MFB thought I'd point out that the website gives free shipping on orders over 75$. If you're like me and have (or are getting) your own batteries/charger you can get the 62$ basic version and then get yourself some whole leaf tea (6-8$) and/or a steeping cup (9-12$) to get the free shipping. I get 'special' tea from the collectives around here and this kind of cup would be ideal for the long and repeated steeping needed to fully activate the material. Since I already have a cup and some teapots myself I went with a couple of white teas (14$ for 2 kinds, brought my total to 76$). If you were gonna go for the basic charger version at 72$ then it'd be pretty silly to pay 6$ for shipping when you could pay 6$ for some tea and get shipping for free, but thats just my :2c: ;)
 
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Durden

Durden

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Exchanged some email with the people over at Blisssville and they think they'll be shipping the pre-order MFB's on tuesday or wednsday of next week, so not much time left to get that discount.


Sorry for the double post, but I figured this info deserved a bump.
 
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duh

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Yesterday I finally dropped by Fry's Electronics and found that Energizer 15-minute charger for $29 so I could have saved $10 - oh well. I did find a neat gem: my new LB companion:

Lenmar Rechargeable 4 AA 2500mAh Batteries WITH free clear plastic battery case for $12.99 - on the back it says they have NoMeM which supposedly means there is no memory effect and you can recharge at any time but this makes no sense to me. Also nice enviro friendly pic on back w/green leaf (not our kind ;)) and recycle, CE, etc.

They just charged and I'm off...
 
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Smokey Mcpotster

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Hmmm I was told today they were shipping tomorrow.:brow:
Well either way won't be long.:D I will be looking into one of these for a portable in a few months. Looks like a nice compact unit.
 
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