Vitolo
Vaporist
That is how I understood it.
The charge time cut in approximately half.
Discontinued Inhalater XP
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The charge time cut in approximately half.
Old School
Vape13man
Makes more sense and that would change the charge ratio from 6:1 to now 3:1...that is still quite an improvement for sure.....
Nice..... I was thinking about trying something like this as well.....speaking of caps....I still can't say as I like these new non shouldered caps..... I do hope the new glass caps have the shoulders on them....
Vitolo
Vaporist
I started out, not caring for the shoulderless capsules also.
I complained here when they came out.
I retained a number of the old style.
Using them side by side, I slowly bit by bit evolved into only using the shoulderless ones.
I believe that they come clean more easily.. perhaps due to less mass around screen area, absorbing that heat.... meaning the entire screen in the shoulderless caps may be heating more uniformly.
I complained here when they came out.
I retained a number of the old style.
Using them side by side, I slowly bit by bit evolved into only using the shoulderless ones.
I believe that they come clean more easily.. perhaps due to less mass around screen area, absorbing that heat.... meaning the entire screen in the shoulderless caps may be heating more uniformly.
Here are some cool Inhalater glass capsules. Manufactured in Germany: http://verdampftnochmal.de/
Yes, if battery is fully discharged, 25min of charging time is required before using your Inhalater
Yes, if battery is fully discharged, 25min of charging time is required before using your Inhalater
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Kaptan
Well-Known Member
Is there any performance decrease or longer heat up time with use of the glass capsule compared to the polyimide?Here are some cool Inhalater glass capsules. Manufactured in Germany: http://verdampftnochmal.de/
Yes, if battery is fully discharged, 25min of charging time is required before using your Inhalater
toros23
Well-Known Member
Just an FYI for those curious... I have been inserting small glass nipples in my capsules for a while now, when I want to use smaller loads. I have not noticed any decreased heatup times and the flavor profile seems improved (could be in my mind). Having said that, I am inserting the glass nipple inside the polymide capsule so it is a little different than what is being shown above. Also worth noting is that the small glass nipples I am using are extremely thin, the ones in the photo above look quite a bit thicker - which is probably a good thing for a portable.
edit - forgot to mention the cooking is a little more even using the glass nipples inside the current capsules. I don't get the bright green spot at the top of the capsule like I sometimes get with the capsules alone.
edit - forgot to mention the cooking is a little more even using the glass nipples inside the current capsules. I don't get the bright green spot at the top of the capsule like I sometimes get with the capsules alone.
Shifu
Well-Known Member
That's cool, but I found that a bit unfair. I was waiting for the inh 05 since i've got my Q3 and though we would be able to upgrade, and if i'm not mstaking Inhalater said it would be possible.
Okay, 150$ instead of 220 is a good deal. But for now, it's gonna be the same song as the Grasshopper, no review no buy.
So now since my Q3 doesn't perform that good I would like to know if I can change for the latest Q4 at least.
HerbalHealing
Well-Known Member
Exact same experience here....was originally displeased, then got used to how they worked and the slightly less pressure required to remove. Now I also find they are easier to keep clean as I don't get particles stuck on the outside where the shoulder meets the polyimide.
The only thing I'm wondering now is longevity as my shouldered ones are still good after a year+ of use (still using the originals).
Question for Inhalater - since the new glass caps are compatible with XP's, would it be possible to purchase them ahead of the INH005 release? would be great to try with our XP's.
Thanks
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Edward Hyde
Well-Known Member
i have tried to clean 3 shoulderless capsules with iso and hot water and all three came appart...the polymide from the top plastic..like thye are stuck with some kind of tape with glue and the glue wore off from hot water or iso...the shoulde capsule didnt have such problems cause the polymide was stuck in the shoulders...
Most likely the hot water. I heard they heat seal the polymide to the capsule, but I may be wrong. I have cleaned my shoulderless caps with ISO. Note they are easier to clean when they are heated up from the unit because all the resins will be heated. I am still on my first one and the only hard part to clean is particles that get stuck where the polymide wraps around each other.
Old School
Vape13man
Yes I'm afraid I have had similar issues with the non shouldered caps.....I have one that is pealing on the outside and then I have another that appears to be unraveling on the inside and therefore keeps getting longer...then that hits in the chamber and when I finish and pull it out....the side is always crunched up until I trim it off.... but then it just unravels more...and the process repeats.....it hasn't come all the way apart yet but logic would suggest it is only a mater of time....
As for all of my shouldered caps.....all are still running strong...without any issues.....
Also the non shouldered caps at first kept falling out during use....but I later learned that had to do with the actual screens inside......
I have to say I believe you are onto something there....there would be some heat being absorbed making that just a tad cooler than the rest of the cap...and we all know what likely follows.... condensation... is going to begin with the 1st material our vapor comes in contact with so yes I agree the shouldered caps should {and seem to} gunk up first.....
So something thats looks like it will hold up to the abuse and last longer. but require more frequent cleanings....or something that doesn't require cleaning as often but also can't handle the heat.....
I think I'm going to like the glass....wish they had shoulders or "stopper" is what the manufacture refers to them as.....
HerbalHealing
Well-Known Member
I was afraid of that (longevity). Although not yet a problem, I do see a slight lifting of an edge that will probably lead to unraveling one mine, so we'll see how long it lasts.
One of my xp's has the stopper and one without (i use them alternately) and I don't notice any difference in usage, so it comes down to longevity for me as I want to see if I'm better off paying more for something that lasts significantly longer, or not. Hopefully the shouldered caps will always be available as they've worked great for me so far so I'd pay a premium for them as it stands right now.
One of my xp's has the stopper and one without (i use them alternately) and I don't notice any difference in usage, so it comes down to longevity for me as I want to see if I'm better off paying more for something that lasts significantly longer, or not. Hopefully the shouldered caps will always be available as they've worked great for me so far so I'd pay a premium for them as it stands right now.
Snake Plissken
Transcendentalist
I have 5 caps, none w/ shoulders. 1 started unraveling quite a while ago, but has held together. On another, when I went to pull the cap out of the unit (cold), the black part came off in my hand - leaving the poly inside the unit. So far, if any of the poly gets crinkled it has been easy to reshape simply by heating the cap back up while empty. My caps only looked like the one vitolo showed a pic of before being used. The 'hot spot' in the center of the cap blackens the poly pretty hard.
Sonics420
Well-Known Member
This hasn't happened to me yet, but its only been a week of use. I'll keep this in mind and be careful. No unraveling.
@Inhalater There is no glue right??
I like both caps, have no problem with them as I like new things.. but if there are cleaning problems with it than we should go back to what was good before. Because sometimes I just leave the capsule in iso for a few days and I dont want the mouthpiece to separate if I did do that.
Replacement working fine so far, vapor production is great.. plumes of clouds unrivaled... I've already gotten used to the excellent flavor of the Ascent but the XP is not too far behind.. The great thing about glass with the Ascent is you don't get any pop corn flavor, I wonder if these new glass capsules can do that.
Snake Plissken
Transcendentalist
Since I ripped that 1 apart, I am more cautious. If the cap really sticks at all, I'll turn the unit on for a couple of seconds and it will slip right out.
Old School
Vape13man
I think they will.....don't know about being completely gone.....we will still be getting a larger portion of the work done with conduction, which will almost always scorch or over cook that which is closest....
Listen I have over the months found that your interests are on par with mine for the most part.....I had asked a while back when you were turning in your failed XP....now that your XP is back in the picture... can you tell us how much "air time" does the Ascent get.....does it hold a candle to the XP and if your answer is not quite or almost....could you give a percentage of worthiness... and does it go through more herb...? Please share your preferences...?
Vitolo
Vaporist
I found some pieces similar like this at my LHS. They were called Glass mini Chillums, from Germany.
I experimented with it yesterday with the Inhalater, for a good while.
The tube took quite a long while to heat up to temperature that would vape.
The piece broke before I ever could get some good vapor.
I am thinking that what I got was a thicker glass somehow than what Inhalater has shown us here.
Guess I spoke too soon lol. One of my caps came apart. The poly and plastic part just came off. I'm wondering if there is a way to put them back together because the poly is still wrapped and in good shape as well as the plastic piece I can slide them together but its not tight enough to make a seal. I could have been more careful so it may have been my fault thankfully I still have plenty for now 
Edward Hyde
Well-Known Member
Guess I spoke too soon lol. One of my caps came apart. The poly and plastic part just came off. I'm wondering if there is a way to put them back together because the poly is still wrapped and in good shape as well as the plastic piece I can slide them together but its not tight enough to make a seal. I could have been more careful so it may have been my fault thankfully I still have plenty for now
that's exactly what i was talking about...arround the polymide there is something like tape...which seems like being stuck arround with some kind of glue...
Old School
Vape13man
We have all felt you on this one....but he is very likely extremely busy getting things ready for the campaign.... You question has been asked in the past....again not always easy to find but if you are asking about in-warranty replacements I believe we have heard reports of as quick as 3 weeks, however if you are talking about repairs to out of warranty units....which he has mentioned repairing INH004's in the past so he will need to answer you directly and with all that he is juggling at the moment I'd expect to wait a month or 2.... he will get back to you eventually....if you are without..it can be very frustrating.
Edward Hyde
Well-Known Member
i have started using tha inhalater as a whip vaporizer pluged on the usb and with a hookah whip and i gotta say its a very pleasant experience...