Ratm22
Cloud Transcender
too long
The Magic-Flight Box
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Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
No thanks.
New other (see details): A new, unused item with absolutely no signs of wear. The item may be missing the original packaging, or in the original packaging but not sealed. The item may be a factory second or a new, unused item with defects. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections.
Ratm22
Cloud Transcender
Welcom to FC sunnyblaq.
Magic flights first glass release is in a separate league and well worth the money. The piece is small but that is what makes it incredible. I see more expensive versions in the future.
It does not topple over which is very nice.
Lokbok
Well-Known Member
Thats the generic verbage from eBay for one of the "new" selections. The user's own descriptions says "
Magic flight launch box power adapter. Never used, in original box.
"
Probably didn't put brand new because it was already opened. You can also check the pictures he has up. Of course this is still only in considering if the seller is telling the truth - if not, you can probably get eBay to sort things out.
I'm not telling anyone to go ahead and go for it with 100% no risk.. but just clearing up what could potentially be an awesome deal.
If anyone decides to jump on it.. I'd at least send a message out to the seller just to ask questions about the legitimacy and the actual condition so you have evidence of what he replies with in case you do need to dispute it with eBay.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
That's a big "might be" honestly. It could be a PA with no warranty for whatever reason. I'd ask for the serial number and then email MF to verify the warranty on it, at least that way you know directly from them.
fernand
Well-Known Member
Howdy, MFLB bunch! Here is what is happening with my Walnut LB, photo evidence, it wasn't no placebo. I got some relief with a dryer sheet, but now the static's baaaack. It's a bit o' nuisance, and no it's not zero gravity aboard the Space Station, and the serial number checks out (they even admitted me to the VIP club). Suggestions?
It's funny because I'm not haunted by static in this house, the humidity varies, but not say 30%.
It's funny because I'm not haunted by static in this house, the humidity varies, but not say 30%.
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akaye47
Member
interesting pictures of the MFLB using a FLIR thermal camera
http://www.vaporizers.com/products/magic-flight-vaporizer
http://www.vaporizers.com/products/magic-flight-vaporizer
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OF
Well-Known Member
Of course it's back, you're wearing the conductive film away (just like in your clothes.....).
While I've no idea how the placebo effect plays into this here (IMO that's something entirely different?), the same 3 options still exist I think: coat it with some conductive layer, replace the cover with a conductor (most likely metal of some sort) or ignore it.
If you want to spend the bucks you can have vacuum deposited films laid down, very thin Tin is sometimes used for things like LCD display (and touch screens) but they too will wear away over time. For use in detector windows in instruments ITO is the traditional solution here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indium_tin_oxide
Such materials can be bought in bulk form, but abrasion of the film will be an issue I think.
http://news.3m.com/press-release/co...-alternative-solutions-touch-screen-manufactu
Personally, I'd stick with either the dryer sheet or ignoring it ideas. Good luck.
OF
fernand
Well-Known Member
My dear @OF thank you. I mentioned placebo because several people suggested it never happens. Hence the forensic photograph ;-) So most people never have this problem, I'm just unluckily charged? I'm OK with vacuum deposting a fine film of alternating gold and scandium bands and a spot-welded #10 wire leading to a ground clip --- NOT! Dryer sheets? Dryer sheets. But why is n0b0dy else having this?
@akaye47 that's GREAT! What's puzzling is that herb will combust on a MFLB pretty easily, but it takes a little more than 421 deg F to do that, like the proverbial 451 Deg F. Where were these photos posted/discussed?
I'm still feeling a bit uncertain. What happens when people dab on a nail? What temp is the Titanium at? Why does wax burn on electric coils and not on hotter(?) Titanium or quartz? Is it the violent poof boiling that protects it from burning? Or is Titanium actually not THAT hot. How hot does nichrome/kanthal get? How hot really is the Mau Deeb?
@akaye47 that's GREAT! What's puzzling is that herb will combust on a MFLB pretty easily, but it takes a little more than 421 deg F to do that, like the proverbial 451 Deg F. Where were these photos posted/discussed?
I'm still feeling a bit uncertain. What happens when people dab on a nail? What temp is the Titanium at? Why does wax burn on electric coils and not on hotter(?) Titanium or quartz? Is it the violent poof boiling that protects it from burning? Or is Titanium actually not THAT hot. How hot does nichrome/kanthal get? How hot really is the Mau Deeb?
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Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Maybe it's your clothes if you put it in your pocket?
OF
Well-Known Member
You're welcome. Thanks for the explanation, now I understand why I didn't understand. The Placebo Effect has absolutely nothing to do with this, it's about perception and expectation. I give you a dube rolled with tea and tell you it's top shelf bud. You smoke it and get off even though there's no THC, but you mind tells you there is so you get off. That's the Placebo Effect.
The short of it is, lots of us have it to some degree I think. Speaking for myself I ignore it as it has no real effect and changes the next time I shake. Only the bud in actual contact with the mesh counts.
Incandescent metals (or glass for that matter) are plenty hot, 12 to 1500F? It simply overpowers the oil fed it. The oil flashes off like steam from a flash boiler rather than cooking slowly. Near the middle of this page is a chart of tool steel temperatures based on color, Ti and quartz should be similar:
http://www.threeplanes.net/toolsteel.html
OF
fernand
Well-Known Member
Thanks, @OF . Yes, I know what the pharm placebo effect is. We also have equipment placebo effects.
Here in turn are the boiling points of our favorite compounds. In the world of gradual vaporization that's what counts. I guess we agree that the flash vaporization on Ti or glass doesn't give oils time to burn. That takes us to the electrical vapes. Seems that dropping wax onto a red hot surface will work better than any traditionally wound e-cig coil, because of the boundaries at the cooler areas it's wound on, like the wick. Ribbon wire or a mesh can probbly do the flash. The Mau Deeb is probably a very good wax vape.
Here in turn are the boiling points of our favorite compounds. In the world of gradual vaporization that's what counts. I guess we agree that the flash vaporization on Ti or glass doesn't give oils time to burn. That takes us to the electrical vapes. Seems that dropping wax onto a red hot surface will work better than any traditionally wound e-cig coil, because of the boundaries at the cooler areas it's wound on, like the wick. Ribbon wire or a mesh can probbly do the flash. The Mau Deeb is probably a very good wax vape.
akaye47
Member
the pics are from the URL at the bottom of the pics: vaporizers.com
OF
Well-Known Member
You might, but 'we' don't. It's a medical effect by definition, has nothing to do with vapes and static but perceptions and expectations:
"A placebo has been defined as "a substance or procedure… that is objectively without specific activity for the condition being treated".
"The placebo effect is related to the perceptions and expectations of the patient; if the substance is viewed as helpful, it can heal, but, if it is viewed as harmful, it can cause negative effects, which is known as the placebo effect."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
I hope you can see why I got confused?
OF
KidFated.
Unknown Member
I think its really funny how i can always have a Mflb as my main portable. Pax is way too high maintenance, didnt like the pinnacles taste(og and pnp) lotus was too much effort for a portable IMO, only one i miss is my og davinci.. MFLB is a real boss, and with my PA, my UD just sits there looking pretty and smellin nice.
Enough typing, im gunna vape and watch some tv quick before bed, wish me luck on my speech tomorrow!
Enough typing, im gunna vape and watch some tv quick before bed, wish me luck on my speech tomorrow!
Lokbok
Well-Known Member
My experiences mirror yours (cept I had an E-Nano instead of UD, both are awesome vapes though). A big part of it is because I use herbs to help me sleep. The MFLB with PA is practically the easiest vape out there to clean up/put away (I don't like leaving my gear out in the open). The glass on my E-Nano (and Solo) would stay too hot to put away for a while; one time I put it back in my VapeCase a little too early and it melted a little of the foam insert. Not a big deal in the middle of the day, but when its late and I want to sleep + medicated... love to just throw everything in the VapeCase or just stash into a drawer without a worry.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
It depends what you want from it. I don't mind taking it to spent coffee color, but I know @pakalolo likes flavor and probably wouldn't take his material as far as I would. It's easier to control how vaped your material is when you're using the power adapter as you can limit how much power goes to the trench. Sometimes I'll set it really low and vape a trench that way, slowly going up and dumping when the taste starts to annoy me, other times I'll hook it up to the water path and chase those nice hazy hits.