herbivore21

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That has been my experience so far. In addition to the variables you mentioned, adjusting the distance between the heater and the material can also have a major impact on how different temperatures behave.

Lately I like to have the surface of my material quite close to the heater screen without actually touching it, and as a result my temperature range has skewed down slightly to about 6.8 - 7.5. I have definitely taken it up to 8.5 plenty of times without combustion, but I always adjust my technique accordingly. Usually I prefer to stretch my sessions out a bit, because I enjoy it so much. And to be sure, I do like my ABV good and dark, as fully extracted as I can get it within reason. Especially before bed.

The more I think about it, it's just really hard to quantify a proper technique, because it is a balance of so many variables which are all really difficult to measure. I would liken it to driving a manual transmission. You don't necessarily need to know exactly how the transmission works in order to drive the car exceptionally well -- you just sort of learn to do it by feel. The Nano is like that. It's like a sports car.

My short answer to your question is: Yes, I believe you are right and you will find it really easy to figure out. The Nano is very intuitive because of its simplicity. I hope you get your dimmer soon! Glad to hear your Luke Wilson piece is back in effect. :cheers:

Perfect :) Nice to know I won't be combusting, nothing ruins a good vape session like an accidental combustion! Smoke tastes so awful right after nice vapor tastes!

I am most stoked at the Luke Wilson piece being back in action, definitely the best piece I've ever used! Cheers! :)
 

OMEiAM

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Just got my Circ UFO Bubbler from Jhanpixel and decided to snap a picture of most of the stuff I use day-to-day!

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OMEiAM

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You use a MF finishing grinder with your Nano? Hows that work out?

Great actually. Ever since I started vaping, I've been pre-grinding (first with a medium Space Case, now with a small SCS) then grinding a second time with the finishing grinder. I always use the basket screens so I don't really have a problem with material getting through.

Forgot to add: I personally get better results from all vaporizers using a fine grind and with the Nano especially I get more hits, as well as thicker ones.
 
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OMEiAM

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What about draw resistance?

The draw is definitely more restricted but I've gotten used to it since it's my preference (getting more and thicker hits) and I haven't spent much time using whole nugs or a medium grind consistency with the Nano. When I use the back of my Plenty brush to even out my herb (same as how you used your pen in one of your videos), the draw is really restricted. That is fixed on the second or third hit when I stir though.
 
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Maine420

GROOVY GRANNY
Hey folks, was wondering about the stems, I irdered the one with the pinch to hold the screen, should I have ordered the one with the honeycomb screen? I have a PV HES stem- that uses a screen only and it is a pain in the ass to place the screen. Should I change my order? Thank you!
 

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
Hey folks, was wondering about the stems, I irdered the one with the pinch to hold the screen, should I have ordered the one with the honeycomb screen? I have a PV HES stem- that uses a screen only and it is a pain in the ass to place the screen. Should I change my order? Thank you!

Are you speaking of the single hole water tool adapter? If so, the screens are easy to remove and replace. Ask for the basket style screens, they are the bee's knees. :science::science:

Here's a hit at 8.25ish using my Black Leaf AC and A Glasswork Orange tube (it's a 2nd in industry terms. Haha.) Enjoy!

 

canj00digit?

All my days in a daze...
Very nice @Madcap79. :tup:
8.25 is right around my fav temp I am finding.

I actually have to back off my previous assertion about the E-Nano not being able to keep up with the Cloud.
While I don't think that necessarily is the wrong overall conclusion, I realise now it's closer that I thought and not nearly as cut and dried. It's just much more tek dependent, and as I don't have complete confidence in my tek yet, I don't have confidence to make such a determination.

This changed for me when I tried the nano through a piece I hadn't tried it through. Something about the resistance of that piece just perfectly 'matches' the E-nano, possibly forcing me to slow down my pulls and not overwhelm the heater, and I was pretty amazed by what seemed like a jump in performance of the nano but really was just an unintentional improvement to my tek I think.

My already hefty respect for the E-nano's flower abilities grows.:luv:
 

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
Very nice @Madcap79. :tup:
8.25 is right around my fav temp I am finding.

I actually have to back off my previous assertion about the E-Nano not being able to keep up with the Cloud.
While I don't think that necessarily is the wrong overall conclusion, I realise now it's closer that I thought and not nearly as cut and dried. It's just much more tek dependent, and as I don't have complete confidence in my tek yet, I don't have confidence to make such a determination.

This changed for me when I tried the nano through a piece I hadn't tried it through. Something about the resistance of that piece just perfectly 'matches' the E-nano, possibly forcing me to slow down my pulls and not overwhelm the heater, and I was pretty amazed by what seemed like a jump in performance of the nano but really was just an unintentional improvement to my tek I think.

My already hefty respect for the E-nano's flower abilities grows.:luv:
I pull slow at first and then speed up the pull slightly once it starts milking. This strain I have doesn't milk up as well as others. I learned that technique from somewhere in this thread. @Caligula maybe?
 

Caligula

Maximus
Probably, although I think its draw speed and load density paired with proper heat and distance that really helps with the milking. I find that if I really want to white wall the glass, i need to pack the gong pretty tightly with ground herb.

Once this is done draw resistance increases substantially. That causes the draw speed to be reduced due to the restriction. It also greatly increases the amount of the flowers surface area that comes in contact with the hot air... not to mention greatly increasing the amount of herb overall (larger reservoir to draw from).

Pair this with a higher heat setting and a closer position to the heat element and you get some combustion worthy vapor. Ive tricked myself to stopping prematurely because I thought I combusted as a matter of fact.

Also I find that putting a flat screen over the packed load evens out the vaporization. This is by no means necessary however I find it does aid in extraction.
 
After a weekend with some band members the enano was a success! They already own a UD as well but they really want to pick one of these up!

Would someone care to comment on the differences, advantages and disadvantages of the e-nano vs. the UD?

I am a relatively new vaper trying to decide between the two. I am most concerned with efficiency/conservation comparisons between the two, as this is my main priority right now. To save money by having to buy less herb.
 
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z9

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Would someone care to comment on the differences, advantages and disadvantages of the e-nano vs. the UD?

I am a relatively new vaper trying to decide between the two. I am most concerned with efficiency/conservation comparisons between the two, as this is my main priority right now. To save money by having to buy less herb.

Well since you got a lot of answers in the UD thread I'll post this here. Conservation really comes down to how you pack your bowls as they're both very efficient vapes with small bowls. The UD uses a cartridge heater in a 3/8" heater core powered from a 12v DC current as opposed to the Nano's 10mm core, ceramic element, and 120v AC. I believe the Nano is the more powerful of the two vapes, but from my experience this only becomes apparent when using a water path.

The UD is more expensive and will require that you get a variable voltage power supply if you want to change the temperature or leave it on 24/7. 12v DC means you can build battery packs and use the UD on the go easier than the Nano. There are more variety with UD vapes if you're in to that. I love using my UD with the nylon stem and find it to be the most conservative stem offered. The bowls in the glass stems are larger than the Nano's because of the larger heater core which lends them to use slightly more herb - regardless this really comes down to self control and how much you try to stuff in a bowl.

The Nano is cheaper, runs 120v, and has adjustable temperature control out of the box, no accessories needed. The dimmer switch on the Nano can be a PITA at first but doesn't take long to get used to. There are better stem/gong offerings for the E-Nano IMO especially with the introduction of polished gong's, silicone sleeved gong's and heavy glass stems. The Nano really outperforms the UD when paired with a water path not to say the UD is a slouch, but it cannot keep up with the Nano for the reasons mentioned in the third sentence of the post.

They're fairly similar vapes, choose which meets your needs better as they offer a similar experience. The end result will be the same with either, medicated off of minimal herb. My Nano literally does not get turned off unless I'm transporting it whereas my UD is only powered on when I want to use it dry if that tells you anything...

Edit: forgot to mention customer service - its going to be top notch whichever you choose, dealing with either has always been a pleasure.
 
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Tweak

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There are better stem/gong offerings for the E-Nano IMO especially with the introduction of polished gong's, silicone sleeved gong's and heavy glass stems.

Very nice assessment z9. Thanks.

Just got my polished GonG a couple days ago, made of the new heavy glass. I believe it is my deepest GonG yet, because there is no pinch to stop it.

And Andy included a lil sliver of silicone to go with my new pinch stem. So I cut a much bigger piece and it works great. Good reminder to not touch above the silicone.
 
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