Discontinued Pinnacle Pro

Sativape

Well-Known Member
Did you notice the draw restriction on the PRO compared to the OG?
Sorted the air restriction. opened her up (pgwaaaar) and around the heating chamber there are some wires with heat shielding that seem to be bunched up and blocked the air path.
air was only entering from the bottom trough the wire inlet and therefor not using the full convection path. Anyhow i pushed the wires slightly and all is well.
I would also like to state that the internals are well built, with good quality parts and good old fashioned Philips screws holding the heating assembly together.
Overall happy out:smug:

Nice job!

Thanks for sharing.

Do you have an PN OG that you can now compare the air flow with?

Just curious if you notice a difference between the 2.
 
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lookhigh

FC member
Yes i have the OG. The Pro is still a little more restrictive and has a slight wind noise. Its close to perfect and i did not want to move them wires too much.
 
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BarnBoy

Reformed Combustor
This segment of the BarnBoy series is thanks to the support from @Sativape. Today I will discuss some preventative maintenance (PM) that I now do. Some of these ideas are borrowed from others on the forum. I recommend everyone re-read and re-like the posts on this thread from the beginning! Some ideas are things I found playing with the PNP over the past month. There are several layers of preventative maintenance needed to keep a PNP in good operating condition. They break down to: Every Use, Daily and Weekly (or longer). All of these will depend upon the kind of stuff you use. My NorCal stuff largely dictates what I have to do to my PNP to keep it fresh. So your PM schedules may differ!

I already discussed how I clean bullets here. This is the biggest and most time consuming part of keeping the PNP fresh, but well worth it. If you don’t keep your bullets clean, the inside of your PNP will look tan/brown/tarnished very quickly. So let’s discuss other items in the Every Use and Daily PM schedules.

First up when you open up the PNP after a use is the PonG. I give its screen a vigorous brush with the little brushes I make or the PNP brush. Give it a really good scrub to try to knock out any resin residue from the screen. Then give it a quick back-blow to rid it of any dust created by the scrub. Inspect looking down PonG bore (see photo way below). If screen is clogged, deep clean the PonG. I also find I need to wipe the outside wall of the PonG tube. The tube side that is most exposed is the surface on my PNP that collects the most. It also gunk’s up on the tall back inner wall in the PNP. It is easiest to wipe these surfaces while the unit is still warm. Then due to all the bad PonG posts, I inspect it for cracks. Knock on wood, nothing yet…

GaUha4e.jpg


Once I dump a bullet into a hot tray holder, I will then wipe the back wall of the PNP with a paper towel, shirt tail, finger or Q-tip. As stated above, the exposed tube surface and this wall really collect gunk as seen by the grunge on the Q-tips in the above and below photos. If there is a spare Q-tip handy, I might just swab the insides of the PNP. I noticed if I let the PNP simmer because I’m busy doing other things, this surface will still get dirty, no matter how clean I keep the bullets. Some of these steps are done more daily than after every use…

UHWWHbh.jpg


Once clean, I put the PNP back together empty and draw as hard as I can. Occasionally I get particles that got into the air pathway. Don’t recommend doing this hard draw without a PonG else the chunks go down your throat. So except for PonG deep cleaning details, this covers all of the PM the BarnBoy does to keep his PNP better than day new (no new device fumes/flavor!).

@herbivore21 –I am sorry you an others have had PonG issues and feel for your international issue. The black goop I saw on your PonG posts looks much like my PonG after a session brought up to setting 4 (see photo collage below). The subtle issue with the PonG/GonG is how the residue collects along the walls. I believe as unit is used, residue will slough with gravity and collect on the screen. As noted above, I have areas that appear to collect more gunk than others. The areas looked like the same areas you had gunk and issues. There are other photos as of late that show a broken tube sections, and the inner & outer tube walls are thick with goop. Thus my comment about cleanliness! You can even see the damage I did to my PonG by not cleaning it the first three weeks in the photos below. Even after ultra-sonic cleaning, there is still stuff stuck to the screen. The quick PonG cleaning below was a simple hot water flush, and then scrub with PNP brush and a mild soap…

OtcLl56.jpg

AZx4UI7.jpg


BarnBoy GonG Status:
Tracking number shows @TherealVaporblunt received my MP on Friday morning. Email from my previous post means I should have the TRVB GonG version sometime soon (next week?). Will keep all posted…

Tracking also shows the Epic GonG should arrive Monday. Again will keep all posted. @herbivore21 – Thanks for the advice here mate!!!!

Cheers,
-BB
 

Tai Sun

Well-Known Member
We need to wait until VB confirms how the international returns will be handled.
So whats there a big deal over international replacements ?

I read the most recent pages but dont understand why we cant simply send our pongs back in a $5 padded letter and receive the same in return and thats that ?

People with burnt/used should just send a pic with a timestamp and reciept of purchase correct ?
We need to wait until VB confirms how the international returns will be handled.

Like i said, not sure why were still waiting for a solution to our MELTING mouthpieces when it seems like a pretty simple exchange ?

Im not too keen on the fact that its been over a week since the issue was being supposedly being addressed yet were still waiting for confirmation on our return process.
 
Tai Sun,

063_XOBX

Ganjapreneur
So if I want to wait for the pgong from engineering would I still need to file my claim with vb now?
Dunno how much good that'd do you. I made a claim on 2/7 and was told my replacment would be shipped in 2-3 weeks. Still waiting but I'm giving VB the benefit of the doubt since it looks like they're going through several revisions of GonPs.
 
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UnderMist

Technically its vapor but UnderVape sounded weird
After excitingly blowing through 6-7 pages. I must say I am really looking forward to what is coming to us PnP owners.

Really awesome stuff @TherealVaporblunt @Engineering. See we didn't bite ;), we just wanted to work with you guys on making your product better, and more safe to use. Your action on this really shows that your company actually does have interest in keeping your customers happy. It doesn't seem like you just want to shut us up and have this blow away. You actually are actively trying to improve your product post production. Its really great and I hope it sells like hot cakes even more so now than before. We will all be here backing your products up if this continues time after time. Not necessarily succumbing to our every whim, more so just understanding and seeing if there is actually an issue and working with us customers through it.
 
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Dudefromma

Member
Well this is my first post probably not the place for intros but I've been reading a TON on FC about a bunch of different portables and I finally think I'm ready to order a Pinnacle pro.
I saw a few posts from people saying eBay was fine, can anyone confirm that eBay is still a good place to buy one? I've read there are counterfeits but I've also read that theyoyokid1 is a trusted seller. Any guidance is greatly appreciated!
 

BarnBoy

Reformed Combustor
I can vouch for theyoyokid1 as well. I had a defective unit and he had the new one sent out even before I shipped the defective one back. Easy to deal with, fast shipping.

@Dudefromma Just look how many times TheYoyoKid1 or just Yoyokid appears in this forum. None a negative. YoyoKid jumped on my MP issue, but I couldn't pass up the offer from TRVB...
Pull the trigger!!
-BB

EDIT: added link references...
 
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Dudefromma

Member
Do many of you guys use it with the plastic mouth piece or are you all using water attachments? I'm planning on using this on the go quite often
 
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herbivore21

Well-Known Member
This segment of the BarnBoy series is thanks to the support from @Sativape. Today I will discuss some preventative maintenance (PM) that I now do. Some of these ideas are borrowed from others on the forum. I recommend everyone re-read and re-like the posts on this thread from the beginning! Some ideas are things I found playing with the PNP over the past month. There are several layers of preventative maintenance needed to keep a PNP in good operating condition. They break down to: Every Use, Daily and Weekly (or longer). All of these will depend upon the kind of stuff you use. My NorCal stuff largely dictates what I have to do to my PNP to keep it fresh. So your PM schedules may differ!

I already discussed how I clean bullets here. This is the biggest and most time consuming part of keeping the PNP fresh, but well worth it. If you don’t keep your bullets clean, the inside of your PNP will look tan/brown/tarnished very quickly. So let’s discuss other items in the Every Use and Daily PM schedules.

First up when you open up the PNP after a use is the PonG. I give its screen a vigorous brush with the little brushes I make or the PNP brush. Give it a really good scrub to try to knock out any resin residue from the screen. Then give it a quick back-blow to rid it of any dust created by the scrub. Inspect looking down PonG bore (see photo way below). If screen is clogged, deep clean the PonG. I also find I need to wipe the outside wall of the PonG tube. The tube side that is most exposed is the surface on my PNP that collects the most. It also gunk’s up on the tall back inner wall in the PNP. It is easiest to wipe these surfaces while the unit is still warm. Then due to all the bad PonG posts, I inspect it for cracks. Knock on wood, nothing yet…

GaUha4e.jpg


Once I dump a bullet into a hot tray holder, I will then wipe the back wall of the PNP with a paper towel, shirt tail, finger or Q-tip. As stated above, the exposed tube surface and this wall really collect gunk as seen by the grunge on the Q-tips in the above and below photos. If there is a spare Q-tip handy, I might just swab the insides of the PNP. I noticed if I let the PNP simmer because I’m busy doing other things, this surface will still get dirty, no matter how clean I keep the bullets. Some of these steps are done more daily than after every use…

UHWWHbh.jpg


Once clean, I put the PNP back together empty and draw as hard as I can. Occasionally I get particles that got into the air pathway. Don’t recommend doing this hard draw without a PonG else the chunks go down your throat. So except for PonG deep cleaning details, this covers all of the PM the BarnBoy does to keep his PNP better than day new (no new device fumes/flavor!).

@herbivore21 –I am sorry you an others have had PonG issues and feel for your international issue. The black goop I saw on your PonG posts looks much like my PonG after a session brought up to setting 4 (see photo collage below). The subtle issue with the PonG/GonG is how the residue collects along the walls. I believe as unit is used, residue will slough with gravity and collect on the screen. As noted above, I have areas that appear to collect more gunk than others. The areas looked like the same areas you had gunk and issues. There are other photos as of late that show a broken tube sections, and the inner & outer tube walls are thick with goop. Thus my comment about cleanliness! You can even see the damage I did to my PonG by not cleaning it the first three weeks in the photos below. Even after ultra-sonic cleaning, there is still stuff stuck to the screen. The quick PonG cleaning below was a simple hot water flush, and then scrub with PNP brush and a mild soap…

OtcLl56.jpg

AZx4UI7.jpg


BarnBoy GonG Status:
Tracking number shows @TherealVaporblunt received my MP on Friday morning. Email from my previous post means I should have the TRVB GonG version sometime soon (next week?). Will keep all posted…

Tracking also shows the Epic GonG should arrive Monday. Again will keep all posted. @herbivore21 – Thanks for the advice here mate!!!!

Cheers,
-BB
This is good info man, like I said a lot earlier in this thread, build up of AVB/oil on and around the screen will certainly exacerbate the plastic issues that a number of us have had. I have always agreed with your argument there, look about 30-40 pages back to when I first started using FC to see where I commented this :)

However, the PonGs definitely seem to get melted regardless of cleanliness on some units. Makes me wonder if there are electronic issues at play, leading to excessive heat in some PNP's.
 

BarnBoy

Reformed Combustor
Do many of you guys use it with the plastic mouth piece or are you all using water attachments? I'm planning on using this on the go quite often

Welcome to FC @Dudefromma!

Read this PNP thread from page #1 and press the “LIKE” on stuff that gives you info or sparks interest. Many have stated the MP is not as desired/liked as the PonG. I overall agree, had a MP issue (click this text) and sent it back due to the offer from TRVB

Cheers,

-BB
 

mack7one

Well-Known Member
ordered my pnp a few days ago should be here by the end of the day tomorrow.
can't wait got some good flower and some crumble ,any hints or tips
 
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BarnBoy

Reformed Combustor
ordered my pnp a few days ago should be here by the end of the day tomorrow.
can't wait got some good flower and some crumble ,any hints or tips

Welcome @mack7one to the wonderful world of the PNP. Here is an excellent recipe by @Sativape...

Please read this PNP thread from page #1 and press the “LIKE” on stuff that gives you info or sparks interest. There are other recipe's on how to vape crumble. Personally, I have not had any luck with the FMJ, but have not tried on anything other than bubble hash and reclaim oil from my Steinel...
Cheers,
-BB
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Those of you still using your unit with your mouthpiece or pong a bit of cotton on the end of the bullet may help to insulate the area around the mouthpiece. I don't know for sure if that will keep your pong from melting, but can't hurt. Just a suggestion.
 
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Maybe it has a defective battery?

It looks to be well made.
Perhaps it's only a part defect?
Change the battery with a new one.
Same voltage and Mah.

Funny my first choice was a PnP for on the go!
I started with SOLO's so I stayed with them.
Vaping flowers outside of my residences seems scary!
If I needed to vape out and about I would have the PnP!
For Flavor no comment!
I vape at home!
Something is up. But I bought it from a member here so I won't be able to make a warranty claim.
 
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Like fixing a car!

Take out the battery and replace it with the same voltage and Mah!

Or have a electronics shop fix it?
But it charges and works fine technically? Just doesn't get hot enough for me. So would I replace the battery with a larger mah battery than?
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
But it charges and works fine technically? Just doesn't get hot enough for me. So would I replace the battery with a larger mah battery than?
The same rating!

Manufactures get duds sometimes from their suppliers.

Teaspoon technology doesn't apply!

Test the battery then?
Sound to me one of the cells is defective in the battery?
 
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BarnBoy

Reformed Combustor
But it charges and works fine technically? Just doesn't get hot enough for me. So would I replace the battery with a larger mah battery than?
@VapeNStone - If you don't get proper heating when unit is plugged in to the charger, PLEASE return your unit to TRVB before your warranty expires. This example would not be a battery issue...
-BB
 
BarnBoy,

TherealVaporblunt

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
Like i said, not sure why were still waiting for a solution to our MELTING mouthpieces when it seems like a pretty simple exchange ?

Im not too keen on the fact that its been over a week since the issue was being supposedly being addressed yet were still waiting for confirmation on our return process.
like i said a million times, they aren't melting. I also clearly said that the glass mp wasn't ready yet. have you ever heard the term "rome wasn't built in a day"?

the solution for those that are overseas that do not want to return their pong will be as follows.

A. return your pong and we will ship you a new glass mp.

or

B. do not return your pong, email us and explain you do not want to return but you would like a glass mp. However, with this option you will need to pay for your shipping. when you email us someone will contact you with a shipping quote.
 
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