Herb Grinders
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Adobewan
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Love how those marry, thanks for sharing your cool discovery.
On another note, unless your circumstance dictates it, I'm not sure there is an advantage to grinding so much ahead of use.
If I'm not mistaken, your bud stays fresher, longer, in bud form, even in a sealed container.
SpruceGruve
Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue
Depending what I'm doing during the day that container can last anywhere from 24hrs to one week And having a double O-ring seal,and no light penetrating I'm not too worried about freshness.
I use my medium spacecase to bust everything up quick then finish with the MFLB grinder
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Tom Funk
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I personally own a nano SCS and I will be buying a medium sized one on thusday. I will post if there are different results or what my opinion is. I need the bigger grinder to hold my "sharing" bud while the nano is for my personal stuff
Any update on this?
Cheers
TF
SirDarkened
Active Member
Yes actually. I have found the small/medium (whatever the size up from the smallest one is) catches WAY more kief than the smaller one but DOES NOT produce NEARLY as fine of a grind as the small one does.
I also find the bigger one stays cleaner compared to the smaller one (ie less res around the threads)
EDIT: I also have since purchased a MFLB finishing grinder and will have you all know that the finishing grinder used after either a SC or SCS grind will grind anything to pretty much powder while still keeping all of them stems out. Its something else when used with the MFLB + Water adapter.
GenYHippie
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Looks like a fun thread to read through 
. I have a cute green 4 piece cali crusher and a freebie plastic two piece with storage.
. I have a cute green 4 piece cali crusher and a freebie plastic two piece with storage.
MileHighLife
Blower of glass, grower of grass
I thought I would throw up a picture or two of my MFLB finishing grinder and my santa cruze shredder storage container,they fit together really nicely(not snug,but really nice)
If someone was looking for a good portable container to use with the MFLB grinder I will now recommend these together because the circular "rim" of the grinder stays inside the container
Very nice ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TWO-METAL-A...286?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b5f4ec0e
^^^Those also marry up with the mflb finishing grinder almost perfectly.
Edit: I also use these all the time to fill my finishing grinder and move around ground up bud ...
http://www.amazon.com/International-Mini-Aluminum-Scoop/dp/B00713NGPA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393316662&sr=8-2&keywords=mini aluminum scoop
They're the perfect size.
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Tom Funk
Well-Known Member
Thanks @SirDarkened. This is very interesting. Your experience in getting a finer grind with the mini is consistent with what others have posted earlier in the thread. Are you achieving this intentionally (i.e. by using the grinder sideways or upside down)? I was looking at the size of the holes in the mini (which appear to me to be bigger than those of the small/medium) and thought that if you used the grinder upright it might produce a courser grind than the larger models. Is this the case, and if so, does the herb come out with good consistency when the grinder is kept upright?
Also, I was wondering which size SCS would be easier to tip herb out of into a bowl or a small container like Jyarz accurately? All things being equal, the smaller diameter should pour better than the larger one, although the mini SCS is shallower and has different shaped walls which might detract from this.
Collecting less kief sounds good to me. I can only assume you are collecting less because less is being knocked off the buds.
Cheers
TF
Tom Funk
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I currently tip my herb from my magic flight nano grinder or into a plastic jar about the size of a Jyar, then I tip from this jar into my T1 bowl. Sometimes I dump from the nano grinder into the bottom of my puffitup freebie 4 part grinder (I don't usually grind with this as the grind is inconsistent compared to the nano grinder) and than tip the herb from it into the T1 bowl. Although care is needed, I do find this the lowest fuss way to get a nice fluffy load. I only need the assistance of a toothpick to direct the herb quite nicely.
I would use a different method if I was grinding more at a time, but as I only do a bowl or two a week going straight from nug to grinder to bowl is the way to go for me.
Cheers
TF
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Jumbo 4 Piece SCS porn. Massive and I've got pretty big mitts.
SirDarkened
Active Member
I only grind normally but I always put herb in the top piece not the middle piece when grinding. (So nothing immediately gets poked through the holes)
I have found the mini gets MUCH more kief than any other grinder I have.
The bigger one is easier to pour. The smaller one is actually horrible to pour from unless what you are pouring it into is much larger than it (ie a glass or plate).
For the MFLB the bigger one is much easier to pour into it.
Honestly unless I'm on the go the small one doesn't get used primarily. I usually store a g or so into the small one so I always have "backup bud" hidden away for when the bigger one runs out.
I find the SC jams MUCH more frequently than the SCS.
I do find that the SC is really nice since I have the medium and it is bigger than the SCS in terms of what it can hold as it grinds that little bit finer.
The SCS has a sort of "fluff" to it at first but after the bud dries out it goes away I've found.
Tom Funk
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@SirDarkened, Thanks very much for your detailed response. Based on the information you've given, I think the small will be better than the mini for me. If I was only using the Solo with a screen and sucking up the herb I would go for the mini, but as I like to tip herb into my T1 bowl the small will have a broader range of use for me. Having not so finer grind is good also as my T1 won't clog so much and it will be better for using the solo without a screen.
As a bonus, I can get the small in irie colours
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Thanks again. One more question though. Which SCS produces more kief, the mini or the small? Your last two posts seem to contradict each other on this.
Cheers
TF
As a bonus, I can get the small in irie colours
.Thanks again. One more question though. Which SCS produces more kief, the mini or the small? Your last two posts seem to contradict each other on this.
Cheers
TF
SirDarkened
Active Member
@SirDarkened, Thanks very much for your detailed response. Based on the information you've given, I think the small will be better than the mini for me. If I was only using the Solo with a screen and sucking up the herb I would go for the mini, but as I like to tip herb into my T1 bowl the small will have a broader range of use for me. Having not so finer grind is good also as my T1 won't clog so much and it will be better for using the solo without a screen.
As a bonus, I can get the small in irie colours
Thanks again. One more question though. Which SCS produces more kief, the mini or the small? Your last two posts seem to contradict each other on this.
Cheers
TF
I believe the mini does. I did use it much more than the other one though.
I believe it gets even more kief than my space case too.
I recommend the small santa cruz with the magic flight finishing grinder as the perfect combo!
NewYorkNativist
Member
So, I've been thoroughly disabused of my notion that the Zeus is anything but a marketing scam. I used to just consume for recreational purposes, but now I'm very sick and I need it to get through treatment.
I have the Piranha, but I never really loved it. And, as I've recently noticed, the metals will come off in land in your product. I was grinding some herbs that were difficult to grind (for this grinder) and when I looked in the chamber, I saw aluminum shavings. I don't think the Piranha holds up well, I don't think the teeth placement is great, you can get aluminum shavings, and I wouldn't recommend anyone buy it. Why did I buy it? I was new to it all and some guy took advantage of the fact that I didn't know any better. I had a list of grinders I'd read about and he told me, "Don't get caught up in names, blah, blah..." which, upon reflection, was because he didn't have those grinders. Eh. You live and you learn.
Is there a consensus on which grinder is best for medication? As some of you know, I have a Solo. A person here has said that he was leaning toward the Space Case, but that now he's headed toward the Santa Cruz Shredder. I am headed that way too. Does anyone have any information that might cause me to reconsider the SCS for this purpose?
I've seen that you get a finer result from the mini, but when I get to the point in my therapy, which will be in a few days, I'm gonna be really weak and not in great shape to be grinding up my herbs. I wanna be able to grind up enough for a few sessions. How much would getting the large (not jumbo) SCS degrade the quality of the grind?
I have the Piranha, but I never really loved it. And, as I've recently noticed, the metals will come off in land in your product. I was grinding some herbs that were difficult to grind (for this grinder) and when I looked in the chamber, I saw aluminum shavings. I don't think the Piranha holds up well, I don't think the teeth placement is great, you can get aluminum shavings, and I wouldn't recommend anyone buy it. Why did I buy it? I was new to it all and some guy took advantage of the fact that I didn't know any better. I had a list of grinders I'd read about and he told me, "Don't get caught up in names, blah, blah..." which, upon reflection, was because he didn't have those grinders. Eh. You live and you learn.
Is there a consensus on which grinder is best for medication? As some of you know, I have a Solo. A person here has said that he was leaning toward the Space Case, but that now he's headed toward the Santa Cruz Shredder. I am headed that way too. Does anyone have any information that might cause me to reconsider the SCS for this purpose?
I've seen that you get a finer result from the mini, but when I get to the point in my therapy, which will be in a few days, I'm gonna be really weak and not in great shape to be grinding up my herbs. I wanna be able to grind up enough for a few sessions. How much would getting the large (not jumbo) SCS degrade the quality of the grind?
max
Out to lunch
Why would you think in terms of "degrade"? This brand, Space Case, or any number of others will grind just fine. As far as brands go, don't overthink your decision.
Larger grinders are easier to turn, and with a 2 pc. you'll have to turn more to get a fine grind. With a 4 pc. the hole size determines your consistency unless you turn it upside down for a finer grind.
Caligula
Maximus
I have a large SCS. It chews through multiple grams at once without looking twice. I also find the size good for torque and grip. It's a good product and will serve you well.
Also consider getting some Jyarz.
http://www.jyarz.com/
One of these will hold about 4 grams of ground herb without needing to pack it in there tightly. Also the containers are the most effective thing out there (IMO) for keeping your herb fresh since they are completely air/water/smell/light proof. I used to pregrind all my bud and just store it in those. Even after over a month the ground bud hadnt dried out at all and retained all its flavor/smell. Should help for when you're too ill to grind fresh every time.
NinjaMindTriks
Ninja Vapor Enthusiast
I second the JyARZ. They are the absolute best.
NewYorkNativist
Member
I shouldn't have used the word degrade...I meant that if I were to use a larger grinder, would the end result (the ground up herb) be any less fine? I'm gonna get the SCS, I'm now just trying to decide what size because in few days I'm gonna be too weak to grind more than on time to have enough herb of a couple of sessions, so I'd like to just have to do one. But, a finer grind means I get the most out of it.
I'm just gonna go get my SCS and use your upside down trick.
Thanks!
NewYorkNativist
Member
I have something similar to them. I have two of them and they are stainless steel, they are smell proof, and, they dry it out which is what I need for my vaporizer. If it isn't dry, it is harsh.
I'm gonna go get my SCS.
CG420
Over the horizon u can see the edges of the Earth
Why buy such an expensive grinder when you can go on eBay and find the Ti grinders for about 20 or less? I have been using this grinder and it grinds well but I guess SCS is the way to go if you wanna have quality. Since using my eBay grinder, grinds are consistent and builds up kief really fast. It had save me money and time altogether so I'd vouch that it is worth it. And I barely found any chippings from my grinder. Customer service was great. They want to make sure you're happy with your grinder. So any problems and you just send back the grinder if you find any mistakes and they even double check for errors before shipping. I would address to them you want a error-free grinder (mine had a chipped tooth) in an e-mail to make sure. Not sure if it is fully Ti but it looks nice to me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Titanium-4-...511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eca7e1277
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Titanium-4-...511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eca7e1277
Caligula
Maximus
You can tell from the price that this is not made out of titanium. The description says its CNC'd and the cost for doing that with ti is steeper than aluminum. To properly CNC titanium you need special bits and cooling among other things. Standard CNC stuff wont cut it (pun intended).
That, plus the material itself costs a lot more.
Might it have a thin titanium coating like the SC units? Maybe. Are they just calling it titanium because of the color? Also maybe.
Im not saying this effects the grind in any way, but shady is as shady does. No?
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grokit
well-worn member
Evidently you don't like piranha! From a cursory search on the interwebs, yours is the only negative review I can find for piranha grinders, except for one guy that had a defective one (didn't mention any metal shavings), and was amazed at their customer service; he was reportedly more than satisfied after he received his replacement unit. Have you considered that your piranha may be defective? If you contact them they may send you a replacement without the defects but if you don't you'll never know. At the very least you could sell the replacement new if you get something else in the meantime, or use it as a backup.
CG420
Over the horizon u can see the edges of the Earth
@Caligula Yeah apparently that falls into the reason why the paint sorta chips on mine on the outside though I never found any on my table. I guess it really depends on the user's preferences. I was originally going to choose either a SCS or a Mendo Mulcher. Recently just saw a grinder on massdrop and it had a removable screen for easy cleaning. Wish I had waited just a little longer to purchase that one. That's for the info nevertheless.