Discontinued Pinnacle Pro

Grim Chiclets

Grim Chiclets

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herbivore21 said:
Damn, not so different at all are we! Whatever you vape with, make sure you are using glass, you'll get the sleep benefits of higher heat settings with the added bonus of every stain on your glass representing precious sleep! :)
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Haha indeed, can't knock the glory of wand hash :myday:
I like it more than wax/iso/co2 any of that personally-
though keif+bud=perfection

Which is why I'll really miss the PnP and it's ABV and keif sandwiches, they literally start vaping after like 8-10sec on 3, and you can shovel in ABV, then keif, and just tap the sides with a pick/tool of choice, or just your fingernail to magically blend it all :spliff:
 
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Grim Chiclets said:
Haha indeed, can't knock the glory of wand hash :myday:
I like it more than wax/iso/co2 any of that personally-
though keif+bud=perfection

Which is why I'll really miss the PnP and it's ABV and keif sandwiches, they literally start vaping after like 8-10sec on 3, and you can shovel in ABV, then keif, and just tap the sides with a pick/tool of choice, or just your fingernail to magically blend it all :spliff:
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Damn, I just started using my hand grinder instead of scissors to be able to benefit from using keif seperately at night for sleep. Need to clean the grinder though, tobacco has been ground in it too, so no reclaim :(

Such a shame, there's years of resin stuck on it!

See above for my edit in my last post to see my chipped/melted PES PonG (Identified as such by TRVB).

I sent them this picture, they said it was safe. I disagreed, especially after I used it once more and had another chip fall off into my bullet while I used it with the PNWT.

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By the way @Grim Chiclets - try this with QWISO/Reclaim in the PNP if you ever get a chance again:

Lay a bed of bud at the bottom of the bullet, only filling the mesh part at the very bottom. Put a decent sized ball of QWISO in with the rest of the bud to fill the bullet in a container. Chop with small scissors (manicure scissors work great!) til you have fine flakes of hash mixed through with the bud. Fill the remainder of the bullet with this - use with water tool and jack the heat up. Delicious and is definitely the most efficient way to use oils IME with the PNP.
 
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Grim Chiclets

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That sounds delicious :o
I've never used a water tool haha, probably another reason my PonG got wrecked. I only used it in my RooR (it's upside down) or just held it in my hand.:argh:

I usually would do 75% abv with 25% fresh ground bud, because it would heat up quickly, and it seemed the most efficient way (at least for herb)
I've rarely had a chance to use it with oils (rarely have the chance to even find oil around here :\)
but I have been wanting to try dabs in cotton :shrug:
 
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herbivore21

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Do you find the AVB effects the taste of the fresh bud? Also, QWISO (able to be made using AVB or buds) is so easy to make, this forum has so many threads (See Concentrates section) that detail it very well with a bit of analytical reading of all the posts :)

Mind your safety, ISO is flammable and the not to be drank, inhaled, or contacted with skin. Don't keep it near any ignition sources or get too physically intimate with the ISO!

Oils are a godsend for sleep. My tolerance is too high to get the sleepiness much from flowers, I am also very limited in strains at the moment, my preferred Sublime/LA Confidential are nowhere to be seen. Oh to live in Colorado!

Be glad the PonG broke beyond repair man. Using a PonG (let alone an already damaged one!) upside down for long enough even on 2 or 3 will lead to mouthfuls of plastic vapours IME. Yikes!
 
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herbivore21 said:
Do you find the AVB effects the taste of the fresh bud? Also, QWISO (able to be made using AVB or buds) is so easy to make, this forum has so many threads (See Concentrates section) that detail it very well with a bit of analytical reading of all the posts :)

Mind your safety, ISO is flammable and the not to be drank, inhaled, or contacted with skin. Don't keep it near any ignition sources or get too physically intimate with the ISO!

Oils are a godsend for sleep. My tolerance is too high to get the sleepiness much from flowers, I am also very limited in strains at the moment, my preferred Sublime/LA Confidential are nowhere to be seen. Oh to live in Colorado!

Be glad the PonG broke beyond repair man. Using a PonG (let alone an already damaged one!) upside down for long enough even on 2 or 3 will lead to mouthfuls of plastic vapours IME. Yikes!
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Haha I've made and/or tried (in the case of CO2) every type of concentrate there is, just like herbs better.
As for ABV, it barely changes the flavor, but then I've only tried doing that in the PnP.. No reason to try it in any other vape lols
EDIT: also I've been using the same ABV for 2 months, I only get real bud when someone comes and chills with me
 
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Grim Chiclets said:
I tried the first one actually last night, but the plastic expanded too much after it got to setting 2 to stay sealed, even with a Silicone o-ring on it
as for the hose clamp, there just isn't enough room for it
I wish I didn't have to see it go.. but I no longer need portability or stealth- Not to mention I'm getting a DBV in return :p
Basically my buddy is converting, and saves money buying a Buddha (~$150 around here) for me and him getting my PnP and buying a PonG (we have a vaporblunt sponsored shop down the street)
Though I am pretty pissed that I can't consume cannabinoids, let alone food
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@ Grim Chiclets,

Do you still have the MP that came with the PNP?
 
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@thereal when I contacted customer support about my cracking issues I was offered a fix for $50, since im in the uk I refused because of shipping and costs, plus I felt like I shouldn't of had to pay at all. Anyway I decided to fix the cracking good and proper and glued it up. Now the pnp wont heat up, the lights reach the top far too quick with no heat, I,ve contacted customer support and again im told my unit cant be replaced due to the original cracking.
 
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stonevape

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I'm sorry, I've googled but I can't find anything: what does GonG and PonG actually mean? I don't really know what you're all talking about and am interested in maybe modding my brand new PnP to be classier, especially if it's going to start falling apart in a couple of weeks… ;)

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When I mentioned taking the bullet out of the unit when it still had life left in the herb. You have a screen on your bullet and you drop it out onto a plate, because its too hot to touch, if there is a screen your herb will not dump all over. If you are out and about, that's not possible. The bullet cools in 2 min or less.
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Thanks for all your answers. Curious - my two bullets that came with the PnP have only one screen, on the bottom. Are you using third-party bullets or have you purchased your own gauzes, maybe cut them to fit, and installed them onto the tops? How fiddly is that to get on and off when you're loading?
 
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stonevape said:
I'm sorry, I've googled but I can't find anything: what does GonG and PonG actually mean? I don't really know what you're all talking about and am interested in maybe modding my brand new PnP to be classier, especially if it's going to start falling apart in a couple of weeks… ;)



Thanks for all your answers. Curious - my two bullets that came with the PnP have only one screen, on the bottom. Are you using third-party bullets or have you purchased your own gauzes, maybe cut them to fit, and installed them onto the tops? How fiddly is that to get on and off when you're loading?
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There are the Vapir No 2 screens, they look like little hats, several members have used those. You can get a screen and cut it down to fit. You can use scissor to cut the screens. You can also use a glass pipe screen ( that would probably fall out). You could use cotton too. The screens are placed on top of the herb in the bullet.

If you want to use less herb the screens can be wedged inside the bullet. Use tweezer to take the screen out if its wedged down inside, after its cooled down.
 
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I just stick little nugs of bud in my PN with great success. If you can do with a little less visible vapor you will almost hardly ever ever have to clean. Plus the taste is even better to my limited senses.

Load after it's up to vaping temp.
 
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Gray Area said:
Cleaning I don't find too bad... Run it empty at five for one session, firm rub with a paper towel on the inside top of the the bullet chamber, where the MP/PonG seats into the unit (not the actual oven).
Same for the outside of the tube part of the MP/PonG... All when hot, the bulk of the residue wipes straight off clean.

The MP itself gets hot air sucked through, and then a flattened toothpick to scrape out the reclaim from the tip.
Then a good rub down in vegetable oil, soak for five, then hot soapy water sorts the plastic out.
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Just cleaned following this method. Works for me best of all methods tried.
 
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BarnBoy said:
Can't say about GonG, but many talented folks here are making their adapters look relatively simple to do and hopefully @therealvaporblunt will make them store bought.

My proto car charger saved me from Friday night commute hell. Somehow the hour and half ride was nice. No drain to the PNP battery. This proto was relatively easy to build... (See Pinnacle Pro). Knowing what I know now, I could make them low cost and small enough to fit in an average car DC adapter housing. The first prototype shown has over kill on current and a computer interface that is not needed...

@therealvaporblunt - maybe trade me a Baker or secondary PNP for the design?:science:
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I bought this recently and tried using my PNP while it was charging (regular home charger) plugged into my car lighter inverter and it worked perfectly. Simple and under $20. Will be great for road trips or just using it without killing any battery when in the car

http://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-100-Watt-Inverter-PI100BB/202564881

emmdeemo said:
@TherealVaporblunt This is great to hear. Very exciting indeed.

I'll be sending my PonG back in about two weeks, best I can do I'm afraid.
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My chipped thicker walled PES MP arrived at VB on Saturday so hopefully it will be inspected soon.
 
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Berkey said:
I bought this recently and tried using my PNP while it was charging (regular home charger) plugged into my car lighter inverter and it worked perfectly. Simple and under $20. Will be great for road trips or just using it without killing any battery when in the car

http://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-100-Watt-Inverter-PI100BB/202564881
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And another PNP AC-DC adapter at $24.99. Or will you unplug, haul, plug-in; repeat???

My proto cost me approx $12 as I got a sweet DC/DC demo board for free. But in small quantity, the core components are less than $15. High volume is $7. Use the IE firm @TherealVaporblunt uses to make it killer. I think people would rather want a product and not suffer a kludge. Many here have suggested and use the inverter method. It works!

Tonight my proto charger kept the PNP alive and fully charged to the Miley Cyrus concert, x4.5 sessions there (until dead) and then kept hands warm all the way home...

My posts were more warnings for others looking for battery back-up or other power solutions for their PNP. A 5.0V solution will only get you charge, even if you have plenty of current...
-BB
 
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BarnBoy said:
And another PNP AC-DC adapter at $24.99. Or will you unplug, haul, plug-in; repeat???

My proto cost me approx $12 as I got a sweet DC/DC demo board for free. But in small quantity, the core components are less than $15. High volume is $7. Use the IE firm @TherealVaporblunt uses to make it killer. I think people would rather want a product and not suffer a kludge. Many here have suggested and use the inverter method. It works!

Tonight my proto charger kept the PNP alive and fully charged to the Miley Cyrus concert, x4.5 sessions there (until dead) and then kept hands warm all the way home...

My posts were more warnings for others looking for battery back-up or other power solutions for their PNP. A 5.0V solution will only get you charge, even if you have plenty of current...
-BB
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BB,

Can you please clarify: "A 5.0V solution will only get you charge, even if you have plenty of current."

Isn't the stock adapter 5V 3A?
 
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Ok so I have been waiting to post. I bought a PNP from a member here. I have used it a few times and I just can't seem to get really good vapor unless I turn it up to 5(full blast) or unless I pack the shit out of the elb. I'm using very good quality mj so it can't be the weed because I get huge. Hits off of like nothing out of my EVO or my lotus. Even my solo seems to work better? Anything I need to know that I don't already? I am beginning to think I made a mistake?
 
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VapeNStone said:
Ok so I have been waiting to post. I bought a PNP from a member here. I have used it a few times and I just can't seem to get really good vapor unless I turn it up to 5(full blast) or unless I pack the shit out of the elb. I'm using very good quality mj so it can't be the weed because I get huge. Hits off of like nothing out of my EVO or my lotus. Even my solo seems to work better? Anything I need to know that I don't already? I am beginning to think I made a mistake?
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Try heating it to 3, waiting until the first 2 lights go solid, drop the bullet in and cap it, then wait 15-20 seconds. Then start pulling slow-moderate speed, and for as long as you can- I got massive clouds out of it with anything I put in :tup:
It just takes time and patience (the answer to everything)
 
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VapeNStone said:
Ok so I have been waiting to post. I bought a PNP from a member here. I have used it a few times and I just can't seem to get really good vapor unless I turn it up to 5(full blast) or unless I pack the shit out of the elb. I'm using very good quality mj so it can't be the weed because I get huge. Hits off of like nothing out of my EVO or my lotus. Even my solo seems to work better? Anything I need to know that I don't already? I am beginning to think I made a mistake?
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Personally, I find a heavy pack on the bullet reduces clouds, think I might be alone in that tho :) If i keep the bullet full but only settled by tapping the bullet, then the slowest draw I possibly can... decent clouds on the low levels.
 
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emmdeemo said:
If i keep the bullet full but only settled by tapping the bullet, then the slowest draw I possibly can... decent clouds on the low levels.
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Forgot about that! I also tap the bullet as i lightly pour material in, I find it always settles your herb into every air gap pretty well, if you're bullet isn't full enough it'll just swirl around in the chamber, which will in turn heat it less
 
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I fill them the same way I fill my EVO ELB's. Which is the way you guys described. But then I need to pack it down and fill more to get the results I want.
 
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VapeNStone said:
Ok so I have been waiting to post. I bought a PNP from a member here. I have used it a few times and I just can't seem to get really good vapor unless I turn it up to 5(full blast) or unless I pack the shit out of the elb. I'm using very good quality mj so it can't be the weed because I get huge. Hits off of like nothing out of my EVO or my lotus. Even my solo seems to work better? Anything I need to know that I don't already? I am beginning to think I made a mistake?
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Sure you aren't pulling too hard?
 
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BarnBoy

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Sativape said:
BB,

Can you please clarify: "A 5.0V solution will only get you charge, even if you have plenty of current."

Isn't the stock adapter 5V 3A?
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Sure, since you are the first to have any interest on this topic...

A USB charger will generate a very anal 5.0 volts. The PNP will not like this and power down after a few seconds with a rising cascade of led lights and then just charge (no operation). Using an adjustable lab supply, I determined the min voltage the PNP requires to function...

Stock adapter is not anal 5.0 volts. Most MFG's boost the voltage x% to deal with the 24AWG wire drops. @Engineering posted something long ago about a customers AC adapter causing the same symptoms, and that got me to explore this...
-BB
 
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