Discontinued Inhalater XP

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TransHumanC

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hahaha

@Snake Plissken I guess you get transcendental with all those strains! How is the taste? I have tasted some like grapefruit and watermelon up to know.

Don't want to hype the Aero cap but it is a must try for all Inhalater users I believe. Try it straight. There must be a loss somewhere through all that vapour path
 
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Snake Plissken said:
ok. Here goes.

For convenience, I will refer to my previous unit as xp3 and this unit as xp4. That said, I don't believe there is any real consistency in runs. Like I have said before, I believe damn near every unit is different than the next. I guarantee neither of my units produced anywhere near the clouds of vitolo's vids - especially on 5. Something to keep in mind when people say this is the best or worst unit. My observations may only apply to my unit.

xp3 had 4 intake holes and ribbed capsules. xp4 had 2 intake holes and no rib on capsule. W/ xp3, I would get 2-4 great hits (no visible vape) starting at level 5, then just super hot hits at 7. W/ xp4, I get at least double the good hits at 5 (still nothing visible) and it is way more tolerable at higher temps. I typically start a session by heating to 7, lowering to 5 and hitting as long as productive before increasing heat to 7, lowering to 6 - same scenario ending up on 7 to finish cap. I only get substantial visible vape at 7 after it has been cooking a while. I still ascribe no real convection properties to this vape.

In an effort to increase vape production, I again blocked my intake holes. This helped, but not enough. I then put a grommet around the cap to ride on top of the unit - sealing the open oven. As there is nowhere on top of the unit to secure a grommet, I had to cheesily wrap a length of electrical tape around it. Now there was no air intake at all - verifying that the top is where all the air leak was going on. I left the top secured as described and removed the tape from the intake holes (still sometimes using 1 as a carb). This is how I found the unit to be most productive. I will have to find a way to make this seal in a less ghetto fashion though. I am absolutely not looking to increase air intake by punching holes or anything. I want more vapor in my air, not vice versa.

The capsules seem to work best when fully loaded, which tends to flare out the top and in turn cause damage to the sides when inserting. I really wish these were of a piece instead of a wrap - built in weakness. W/o the rib, I have had the capsule disengage from the unit twice while in the middle of a session. A cap is slightly just more of a session than I need, but there is rarely anything there if I come back to it.

The usb port seems to be tight and stable, but too much pressure is needed to insert the cable. Over time I still see this being problematic. I don't know if it would mess w/ the electronics, but I've seen magnetic couplings that are loose, but auto connect if you get them close together. As this is the weak spot on the unit, I would aim at alleviating stress, not promoting it.

All in all, I would say this is an improved version. W/ the modification sealing the upper chamber that is. This seal not only improved vapor production, but flavor as well. W/ xp4, I am able to utilize the higher temps instead of just discarding load after a couple of pulls.
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We too complained about the caps we received with our Q4's they kept falling out with the slightest of ease... turns out the screen inside the cap is what actually makes the seal....this in the end was an enlightening exercise....so it was suggested that I could take the screen out and hit it with a hammer and this would improve the "click" {seal}.....no problem even have an anvil so I gave it a few tiny drops {used a flat auto body hammer} well guess what if you do this 1 drop will very likely do because my screen then became too large and not only was it extremely difficult to insert I could see very noticeably that the screen was now cutting the cap {it was at that instant that I remembered folks reporting in the past how their caps were tearing in half right there at the screen} so suddenly that made a bit more sense to me..... so super glad that I don't roll my cap to empty it....I pack them utilizing the vacuum method so it all falls out with a tap and I just love the cleaning straws....
Anyway you can make them just a bit snugger by expanding the screen.....also I would be sure that you are dealing with the screen being too small.....it could be too large and therefore they are not actually clicking in past the white lip of the chamber.....if you think it is possibly just a bit too large you can shrink it slightly by increasing its dome...I used a sharpie pen as the pitch of the dome was what I was looking for.....then if you made it too small you can use a Q-tip to push on the dome thereby flattening and expanding the screen to achieve a nice snug click just past the white ring/lip of the chamber...
 
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So bad news guys for the past few months my unit has been strange and harder to charge. At this point it wont charge unless I'm actually holding the cable and holding it in a certain position. I can't really use the Inhalator at this point as it won't turn on which is a true same because it has all of the positives of the portables with less maintenance, better form factor, better performance. This unit has been made before some of the revisions I've recently seen. But I still ordered this at the end of the summer last year and though I used it multiple times a day. It seems kinda short. In the meantime it's back to Extreme Q. Which I realized i purchased for 130 and has been around since 2012
 
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Snake Plissken

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TransHumanC said:
hahaha

@Snake Plissken I guess you get transcendental with all those strains! How is the taste? I have tasted some like grapefruit and watermelon up to know.

Don't want to hype the Aero cap but it is a must try for all Inhalater users I believe. Try it straight. There must be a loss somewhere through all that vapour path
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You know, at 1st it was that 1 flavor you get vaping regardless of strain. It's like ac/dc - they only really have 1 song, you either like it or you don't. It was good, but no real variety.

After sealing the top and restricting airflow, I was actually able to get more pronounced, individual tastes off of strains. My nysd is a grapefruit x and was almost overwhelmingly citrusy.

If anyone has a unit like mine and is interested: I ended up using 1 of the old fashion rubber grommets that wrap around old style (non gong) bong downstems. If you trim the lower/thinner part back it perfectly wraps around a capsule, creating a seal w/o the need to tape. It also keeps the ribless capsules from falling out.

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I need to pick up more of these grommets as this one is decades old. Looks fine to the eye, kinda disgusting under magnification.
 
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Dark Kite said:
So bad news guys for the past few months my unit has been strange and harder to charge. At this point it wont charge unless I'm actually holding the cable and holding it in a certain position.
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My XP is a great tool.
Toward the end of it's time, my INH400 had this issue.
A helpful hint is to take a small piece of scotch tape, to stabilize the charger's wire, once you get the USB connection in a positive position that lights the light.
 
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2clicker said:
i am still on the fence about getting a replacement or refund...

decisions decisions
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Please get the replacement....I'm asking you to because you had a Q2 like I did {others as well} and you like I loved it's performance....so I have been waiting to see if you will have a similar reaction to the replacement.... I have been trying very hard to convince Greg that there was something very significant that was lost with the Q2....they felt at that time it was only heat related... I couldn't seem to convince him otherwise....
If you return yours 2 things can possibly come from it.....
1...> We will all get your honest opinion and analysis {which will likely echo the rest of us}
2...> Greg will be able to load a charged battery into the unit you return and do a little side by side

I am hoping to get them to hear us and try to better understand what was lost and how to get it back...
1. the draws didn't irritate my throat as they do now.... yes I felt the heat on 7 & 8 but it didn't hurt
2. the vapor itself was thicker and some how more soothing...felt smooth
3. didn't seem to cook up my load if I needed to catch my breath....it did if I forgot about it all together
4. it seemed like it was more of a convection vape but now since then it seems to be more conduction
just to name off a few things I felt they lost when I got my 1st replacement...and remember I still had my GF's Q2 and we both could tell...it was easy to see, feel, taste all of it.....at that time the heat was also lost which was why they made it all about the heat.....

So anyway I really hope you decide to get a replacement as I have enjoyed your reviews...most helpful
 
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Old School said:
Please get the replacement....I'm asking you to because you had a Q2 like I did {others as well} and you like I loved it's performance....so I have been waiting to see if you will have a similar reaction to the replacement.... I have been trying very hard to convince Greg that there was something very significant that was lost with the Q2....they felt at that time it was only heat related... I couldn't seem to convince him otherwise....
If you return yours 2 things can possibly come from it.....
1...> We will all get your honest opinion and analysis {which will likely echo the rest of us}
2...> Greg will be able to load a charged battery into the unit you return and do a little side by side

I am hoping to get them to hear us and try to better understand what was lost and how to get it back...
1. the draws didn't irritate my throat as they do now.... yes I felt the heat on 7 & 8 but it didn't hurt
2. the vapor itself was thicker and some how more soothing...felt smooth
3. didn't seem to cook up my load if I needed to catch my breath....it did if I forgot about it all together
4. it seemed like it was more of a convection vape but now since then it seems to be more conduction
just to name off a few things I felt they lost when I got my 1st replacement...and remember I still had my GF's Q2 and we both could tell...it was easy to see, feel, taste all of it.....at that time the heat was also lost which was why they made it all about the heat.....

So anyway I really hope you decide to get a replacement as I have enjoyed your reviews...most helpful
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thank you for the kind words! as much as i love the idea of progressing our knowledge what is really going on with the XP... maybe trying something else is a good idea for me.

Vitolo said:
I would opt for the replacement in this case.
The XP gives great sessions, and is as good an extractor as they come!
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while i do highly respect your opinion on vapes... i do believe that users are getting dif units that perform differently. while your XP may be working great others with new units dont seem to perform up to par. i dont want to receive a less than satisfactory unit with less than a month of warranty left (ends in march).

these are reasons why this decision is so hard.
 
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Dark Kite said:
So bad news guys for the past few months my unit has been strange and harder to charge. At this point it wont charge unless I'm actually holding the cable and holding it in a certain position. I can't really use the Inhalator at this point as it won't turn on which is a true same because it has all of the positives of the portables with less maintenance, better form factor, better performance. This unit has been made before some of the revisions I've recently seen. But I still ordered this at the end of the summer last year and though I used it multiple times a day. It seems kinda short. In the meantime it's back to Extreme Q. Which I realized i purchased for 130 and has been around since 2012
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I'm in the same boat man. Shipped mine to get replaced earlier this week.

Vitolo said:
I would opt for the replacement in this case.
The XP gives great sessions, and is as good an extractor as they come!
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Did you ever try the oil/cotton? You never got back to me and I'm still curious :p
 
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Yes.
It depends on the type of hash.
In the Inhalater use caution, in order to avoid a difficult cleanup on a delicate capsule.
The capsules are long lasting... very long, but certain things are messy.
Hashish from the "good old days".. made by foreign people in native lands (turkey etc) could be fluffed out and lightly vaporized in this situation.
Now they use solvents to make hash, which makes stickier product.
Bubble hashes come in many qualities, and some are sticky, and some are dry.
dry is best for this.
I use sandwhich (herb/concentrate/herb) in many wands.... but I leave the Inhalater for flower.
I did however do my diligent duty for:
vaplen said:
Did you ever try the oil/cotton? You never got back to me and I'm still curious :p
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Yes.
It works and works well, BUT there was work involved, and exacting work at that.
Because you unwind a q-tip, and are rolling the small dab inside of it, you must use a very small dab.
The cotton plug must slide into the tube with some level of resistance so it can not just slide.
I wedge it about midway in capsule, and then install and vape
I vaped at 7, and clouds were rich and good.
My recommendation is to not wait until dirty to clean it.... and do not go to herb use in next session or you complicate cleanup.
After my session, I shook the capsule in a small test tube of 91% Iso, followed by a hot water/ dishsoap shaking... followed by a thorough hot water rinse.
A few seconds suspended in fingers (USE CAUTION) at nozzle of shopvac had me like new.
 
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Dark Kite said:
So bad news guys for the past few months my unit has been strange and harder to charge. At this point it wont charge unless I'm actually holding the cable and holding it in a certain position. I can't really use the Inhalator at this point as it won't turn on which is a true same because it has all of the positives of the portables with less maintenance, better form factor, better performance. This unit has been made before some of the revisions I've recently seen. But I still ordered this at the end of the summer last year and though I used it multiple times a day. It seems kinda short. In the meantime it's back to Extreme Q. Which I realized i purchased for 130 and has been around since 2012
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Vitolo said:
My XP is a great tool.
Toward the end of it's time, my INH400 had this issue.
A helpful hint is to take a small piece of scotch tape, to stabilize the charger's wire, once you get the USB connection in a positive position that lights the light.
Click to expand...
We have found a cable that seems to work very well with these devices MicroUp USB we have found that if you use a rubber-band to secure the cable located over the "R" on the inhalater sticker it seems to offer the best angle to encourage the USB to remain connected during charge time.... I purchased both the angle up and the angle downs to see which I would prefer....I like the cable flowing downward however the angle feels as though it adds stress to the equation when less stress is what I'm really after, so what I have found works best is to use the "angle up" cable and fold the cable before trapping it under your rubber-band this way the cable still flows downward while the USB connection itself lays upward and firmly upon the body of the unit.....I really liked it and it wasn't until just recently that I tried the exact same arrangement on my GF's failing unit and we discovered it has made a huge difference.... she was ready to give up as well.... but we have bought some more time with this cable..
 
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Has anyone tried the classic microUSB screwdriver trick to see if that fixes the problem? Always did it for me on my cell phones. You just take a flat head screwdriver, stick it in under the bit that has the contacts on it and lightly push upward for a minute.
 
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Vitolo said:
Yes.
It depends on the type of hash.
In the Inhalater use caution, in order to avoid a difficult cleanup on a delicate capsule.
The capsules are long lasting... very long, but certain things are messy.
Hashish from the "good old days".. made by foreign people in native lands (turkey etc) could be fluffed out and lightly vaporized in this situation.
Now they use solvents to make hash, which makes stickier product.
Bubble hashes come in many qualities, and some are stick, and some are dry.
dry is best for this.
I use sandwhich (herb/concentrate/herb) in many wands.... but I leave the Inhalater for flower.
I did however do my diligent duty for:

Yes.
It works and works well, BUT there was work involved, and exacting work at that.
Because you unwind a q-tip, and are rolling the small dab inside of it, you must use a very small dab.
The cotton plug must slide into the tube with some level of resistance so it can not just slide.
I wedge it about midway in capsule, and then install and vape
I vaped at 7, and clouds were rich and good.
My recommendation is to not wait until dirty to clean it.... and do not go to herb use in next session or you complicate cleanup.
After my session, I shook the capsule in a small test tube of 91% Iso, followed by a hot water/ dishsoap shaking... followed by a thorough hot water rinse.
A few seconds suspended in fingers (USE CAUTION) at nozzle of shopvac had me like new.
Click to expand...

Thanks for reply ! Much appreciated, after being curious enough to try it my self, i had decided to mix it with my herbs , lets 70% herb and the rest hash, it worked, the capsule mixed with the flower and hash (the fluffy kind) Lebanese, was able to keep inside and of course what a great sensation haha!
 
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TransHumanC said:
Well that`s not the way I would put it. It somehow balances the concentration to something very smooth. I guess taste has to do with the way herbs are heated up: conduction/convection ratio. Conduction itself having a ratio of hot/colds spots and convection a ratio of unheated air/heated air.

Sure thing is that I would never have enjoyed heating herbs to max without Aero cap as top. And every one commented that shisha was much better with the cap too bottom.

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Looks like you are vaping bacon bits. :D
 
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Purchased and received an Inhalater XP and have a question. What is the optimal temperature for flavor? I don't get noticeable vapor til about 5-5.5 and then the taste is bad. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Yhe heat range on newer models is closer together, so more delicate....
Go to 5.5, and once getting flavor and vapor, reduce the heat a bit.
 
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its been 2 weeks since i got my mail with my capsules and screens and i feel like giving some feedback...new capsules imo are better and worse at the same time maybe in the end they end up just better. What i mean by that is that i like the fact that they are thinner because it makes better heat distribution and u dont get yellow spots in your abv no matter how much u put in there (meaning no matter how few because if u over do it there is a chance u get the deep end of the capsule a bit yellow) also the folding distance of the capsules is really nice cause u can clean through all of it which u couldnt with the old ones...i like the shoulders on the old ones tho...My only problem with all the capsules is that they are too big for one person and its too tempting to fill them so u get these HUGE MASSIVE clouds the xp can deliver...

1/3 0.1g of the capsule really fine ground ( with a super effective 5 layer double ultra fine grind anodized aluminium alloy grinder manufactured in Greece beta unit) is enough for 1 person.

you can fill the capsule to max 0.3-0.4 g and get a 20 minute session for 4 people and depending on your meds it can be from normal up to too strong.

so after all about the capsules like them but i would love it if there was a smaller edition + i would like something to put at the end of the capsule in the deep end so material doesnt fall in the chamber and get stuck in there cause this place is really hard to clean...also i would like a cleaning kit and instructions on how to remove the bottom screen.

about the temperature i start mine at 6 and depending on the quantity i put it i go like this

0.1g 2 minute 6 ,2 minute 7, 4 minute 9 end before auto shut off usually

0.2g 2 minute 6 ,3 minute 7 ,2 minute 8,2 minute 9 auto shut off

0.3-0.4g 4 minute 6,4 minute 7, 4 minute 8,4 minute 9 (2 sessions back to back for 4 people)

taste in my opinion is really depending on quality of herbs and grind + clean capsule and unit...

keep your unit and capsule clean,fine grind and good herbs = ultimate taste even when deep cooked if u get bad taste usually its because capsule or unit is not clean which is the same with all vaporizers...fine grind helps so u dont get too dark spots and other not so dark but instead u get really well distributed dark brown like coffee grinds.

after all i tend to use the normal capsules not the aero ones,i am used to the temperature (the first unit i got gave me burns on my throat) and i find i enjoy it more...
 
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