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Cheap High Quality Bubbler

grokit

well-worn member
how long has it been since you ordered? If it makes you feel better, just open up communication anyway, to see if you get response. Just an idea anyway...
That's what I did. I ordered monday, payment confirmed tuesday (yesterday), and I sent an inquiry to the seller today asking if they knew when it would ship. The seller has 100% positive feedback but less than 10 ratings and just over 100 transactions. You guys have me a bit concerned, does DHgate have my back?
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Well, I have nothing but bad things to say about sunshineglassart so far...

First, I purchase the D020 through iOffer, and ask them for a paypal address to make payment.
They tell me that they don't take paypal (which I'm fine with) and direct me to their dhgate store (which I'm also fine with, though it seems a little sketchy since I'm pretty sure that's against iOffers rules).

I got to the dhgate store, and the D020 is approx 30% more expensive with whatever shipping option they have there (ioffer lists prices with shipping included).

I contacted them telling them that I wouldn't pay extra going through dhgate, but I was still very interested in paying the advertised iOffer price.

I get no response from them, and today I get a "Non-Paying-Buyer" warning from iOffer.

What. The. Fuck?
They can't get their act together and I'm the one being penalized...
Not happy with them at all.
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Try
max quality glass
Or
Thick quality glass

Or
Atomic smokes

They all seem to have similar fritter pieces that are well made.

I've only seen them have tubes, but they have bent necks so the ergonomics are similar to a bubbler.

I got 2 fritter pieces from xx Quality glass, and I'm about to trade for another one from atomic smokes.

The build quality is great on 1 of them (but I prefer te perc setup of the other, so I'm keeping the one with a few flaws and selling the "better" one.
 

oli

Well-Known Member
Are there any Chinese folks on this forum or someone with the know-how with Chinese business trading and business culture???

Is bad communication, lack of writing proper emails and poor customer care ALWAYS like this: Minimal?

Or is it just me, some European who does not get it?
 
oli,

equatorgringo

Well-Known Member
Are there any Chinese folks on this forum or someone with the know-how with Chinese business trading and business culture???

Is bad communication, lack of writing proper emails and poor customer care ALWAYS like this: Minimal?

Or is it just me, some European who does not get it?

My company imports material from China. My wife lived and studied in Taipe, Taiwan for 6 years. I have travelled there, Beijing, Thailand etc and I can tell you one thing:

It IS always like this!

Unless it is some product of great value (I buy and import containers of granite from China and besides the standard production delays I get good service) then you mostly have to deal with this. Go to China and you will see these things for sale on the streets in some night markets. When it comes to this stuff Chinese people are generally a rude bunch that don't have the same business ethics as us. It's really that simple. Of course not everyone is like that. But it is the general rule of thumb.
 

tuk

Well-Known Member
Is bad communication, lack of writing proper emails and poor customer care ALWAYS like this: Minimal?

As your effectively buying something from a shop in China, communications would probably be better if you spoke Chinese, similarly if a Chinese person had a problem with a purchase from Amazon.com & sent e-mails in Chinese they might also regard the Customer service as terrible.
 

SnidelyWhiplash

Well-Known Member
After years of ordering from dealextreme.com and Banggood.com, Ive come to have no expectation from China beyond extreme fun, amazing prices, and usually crumpled shipping packages. I mena come on man, inhuman production prices have to come at a cost somewhere.

I think idealistically id rather just pay artists what they deserve so they can feed their families, Chinese, American, whatever. But until I am enlightened, I fucking love dhgate glass, always a treat when it arrives.
 

arrr

Well-Known Member
:puke:like to know if that piece has more or less chug than the single HC.

Well it appears the single hc is out of stock. Just as I was going to pull the trigger. Anyone know if its listed anywhere else. I am terrible at searching for glass on aliexpress.

Also @grokit can you post a link to that bub you just purchased. It looks nice.
 
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pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
@Meghan said it really well:

I don't think it's that anyone is making excuses for "China", necessarily...just that most of us realize that as a consumer, you buy cheap Chinese glass direct from China because it's stupid inexpensive, not because you're likely to get quality customer service along the way. It's definitely a risk. Personally, I haven't and wouldn't spend more than $40 on an AliEx/DHGate bubbler because I know at the outset that the risk of poor build quality is higher than average and any problems with my order are likely to go unresolved (without major hassle and potential expense, at least...I would find it too big a hassle to ship something back to China, too, but completely understand why they would want me to!!).
 

canj00digit?

All my days in a daze...
Well, I have nothing but bad things to say about sunshineglassart so far...

First, I purchase the D020 through iOffer....

Ugh, that sucks dude. I've had a couple issues with flaky sellers on iOffer.
As you already know I got my D020 via AliExpress and I've had nothing but good experiences with them.
Only one order has failed to show and it was promptly refunded.

I bought mine on Jan 28th and it shipped Feb 12th. Considering most of that time the whole nation was on holiday it's pretty good time to ship I think. Let's see how long it takes to get here.
 

Tweak

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Everyone is talking about shipping, I just want to know.

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:D
 

Ripstar

Well-Known Member
As I said it's a knock-off, but here's a rhetorical question:
If I paid $100 and a real one costs $2k who got scammed?
Whoever breaks it first, that's who:lmao:!

As I also said, I just hope if works!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ;)
Exactly. 2K for that piece is absolutely insane. The fact someone is asking that seems very wrong to me. But that is just my opinion.
 

clouded vision

Well-Known Member
At that price you are paying for the artistic merit of the piece and not the functionality of it. $2k is definitely the going price for a retail JP custom, my LHS has one of his custom doubles that they are asking $2800. They said if it doesn't sell before 4/20 they are going to raffle it off. With prices like that, you have to look at it as a piece of functional art and not just paraphernalia. That being said, there is absolutely no way I could personally spend that much for a piece unless I have a serious windfall first.
 
clouded vision,
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