Vapor Brownies (ABV Cannaoil)
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Hennessy1414
Terrorist
made a SHIT TON of ganja butter. I'm just about to start up making ganja candies! stay tuned for pics... 
jello flavors being used: grape(tha purps!) cherry, strawberry, green apple, ect ect
no blue things tho....I guess my friend is allergic to blue food coloring
oh well im allergic to schwilly beer(I.E. Key-Stone Ice, budwiser, coors ect ect.)...or is it because that shit taste like piss water :/
oh well I'll stick to thc
jello flavors being used: grape(tha purps!) cherry, strawberry, green apple, ect ect
no blue things tho....I guess my friend is allergic to blue food coloring
oh well im allergic to schwilly beer(I.E. Key-Stone Ice, budwiser, coors ect ect.)...or is it because that shit taste like piss water :/oh well I'll stick to thc
smoking Joe
Well-Known Member
You started with a cup of coconut oil, after cooking and filtering what was your final yield? 1/4 cup?VapourFighter said:
Acolyte of Zinglon
Wizard-Ninja
h made one cup of infused coconut oil, but he only used 1/4 of that in his brownies
Qbit
cannabanana
Hi all - I'm a new member, and I thought I should chime in on this subject, as I've had a fair bit of experience with cooking weed in oil. While most of this cooking has been done with un-vaped herb, the principle is the same - the abv is just depleted to one degree or another.
A point of difference with my cooking method is that, instead of a frying pan (skillet to the Merkins here), I use a small saucepan and a thermometer. The small saucepan means deeper oil and therefore better temperature regulation, and also for the clip-on oil/candy thermometer, which you can find at most kitchenware retailers - at least you can where I live (Australia). And you can find them online of course. The ones here start from under $10 - for these glass tube bubble type things - perfectly adequate, as long as you're careful not to knock them, as they break easy. But you can pay a lot more for deluxe model thermometers if you want to.
Anyway, I pour the oil into the pan with the thermometer attached, heat it a bit, and dump my ground weed into the oil. My mind's not set on what the right temperature at which to do this is, but usually it'll be before the oil hits 100 C (212 F), ie below the boiling point of water. This is so I don't get the instant sizzle of the moisture in the weed hitting the hot oil - I like the effect of the slow release of the moisture creating bubbles and getting a convection flow. I'm not sure if cooking it like this actually helps, or makes any difference to the end result, but with abv it probably doesn't make much difference - as long as you're well below 180C.
180C to 190C, or about 355 to 375 F. That's where you need to reach - at least it is with my setup. I keep the oil at this temperature for probably 20 mins. Again, I'm not totally sure how long is optimum, but this seems to work well for me. It is also important to know that if the layer of weed in the oil is too thick it can hinder convection, create a hot spot, and burn (and the thermometer might not know about it) , so it's necessary to stir frequently. And I always keep my eye on that thermometer, as the temperature can change quite rapidly without warning or apparent cause.
So once finished, this oil is good to use as is. Make brownies or whatever you like. I'll often just toss a spoonful back with a mouthful of milk or soy.
PS It's also very nice in yoghurt - it gives it a kind of nutty flavour. There's my special chocolate yoghurt, where I take natural yoghurt and add a good helping of unsweetened cocoa, a moderate amount of sugar, and a dash of vanilla essence, plus the oil. Chocolate and yoghurt isn't a common combination from what I've seen, but I love it. And I like a strong, not-too-sweet chocolate flavour, hence the unsweetened cocoa.
A point of difference with my cooking method is that, instead of a frying pan (skillet to the Merkins here), I use a small saucepan and a thermometer. The small saucepan means deeper oil and therefore better temperature regulation, and also for the clip-on oil/candy thermometer, which you can find at most kitchenware retailers - at least you can where I live (Australia). And you can find them online of course. The ones here start from under $10 - for these glass tube bubble type things - perfectly adequate, as long as you're careful not to knock them, as they break easy. But you can pay a lot more for deluxe model thermometers if you want to.
Anyway, I pour the oil into the pan with the thermometer attached, heat it a bit, and dump my ground weed into the oil. My mind's not set on what the right temperature at which to do this is, but usually it'll be before the oil hits 100 C (212 F), ie below the boiling point of water. This is so I don't get the instant sizzle of the moisture in the weed hitting the hot oil - I like the effect of the slow release of the moisture creating bubbles and getting a convection flow. I'm not sure if cooking it like this actually helps, or makes any difference to the end result, but with abv it probably doesn't make much difference - as long as you're well below 180C.
180C to 190C, or about 355 to 375 F. That's where you need to reach - at least it is with my setup. I keep the oil at this temperature for probably 20 mins. Again, I'm not totally sure how long is optimum, but this seems to work well for me. It is also important to know that if the layer of weed in the oil is too thick it can hinder convection, create a hot spot, and burn (and the thermometer might not know about it) , so it's necessary to stir frequently. And I always keep my eye on that thermometer, as the temperature can change quite rapidly without warning or apparent cause.
So once finished, this oil is good to use as is. Make brownies or whatever you like. I'll often just toss a spoonful back with a mouthful of milk or soy.
PS It's also very nice in yoghurt - it gives it a kind of nutty flavour. There's my special chocolate yoghurt, where I take natural yoghurt and add a good helping of unsweetened cocoa, a moderate amount of sugar, and a dash of vanilla essence, plus the oil. Chocolate and yoghurt isn't a common combination from what I've seen, but I love it. And I like a strong, not-too-sweet chocolate flavour, hence the unsweetened cocoa.
SometimesY
Well-Known Member
Another new user here, but, like Qbit above, I thought I should post my method, as much for another data point as anything.
I use a Volcano, pulling two bags, one at 5.5, one at 6.5 (up to about 200C). My duff is about like vtac's on the first page, maybe a bit browner.
I've made quite a few batches of brownies with my duff, using oil or cannabutter made by several methods, and this is what I've settled on, so far. I use this recipe http://baking.about.com/od/brownies/r/ultimate.htm , which makes a more fudge-like (rather than cake-like) brownie. I think brownies made with butter are better than those made with oil, so I make cannabutter with my duff.
I've tried a few ways of making cannabutter, and I've settled on this, mostly because it's quick. I haven't been able to tell much difference between using this method, and, say, the water and butter boiling method where you must refrigerate the resulting mixture to separate the butter out. Since you can use this method's butter immediately, you don't have to plan a day ahead to make your brownies.
Like Qbit, I use a saucepan and candy thermometer, and simmer the butter (1/2 lb for the recipe + about 2 tbsp for "waste") with 12g of well ground (but not flour-like) duff at about 110C for 25-30 minutes. The lower temperature keeps the butter from burning (it becomes clarified butter, or ghee) and, from what I've read and experienced, should be a high enough temperature to allow all of the goodies to bond to the fat molecules.
I strain it through cheesecloth and a gold permanent coffee filter into a Pyrex measuring cup. You can squeeze most of it out through the cheesecloth, but inevitably there's some loss, and I end up with 1/2 cup of melted brownish butter, which has that vaped-remains smell. Since the first step in the recipe is to melt the butter and chocolate together, I only need to dump it in a saucepan and add the chocolate for a few minutes.
I cut the resulting brownies into 15 doses. Most people find one plenty, and two sometimes can couchlock me (a daily vapornaut). I find that most of the duff-taste is "baked out". The brownies, judged just as brownies, taste pretty darn good.
I'm thinking of changing to a double boiler so I don't have to watch the temp. The method of boiling the water & butter together achieves the same thing, using the water to regulate the temperature. I wonder, though, if boiling it in the water may have the added benefit of bonding any hydrophyllic inactive substances that you wouldn't want in the result anyway to the water, which is then drained off. I may try that method again, just to see if it improves the taste (not that it needs much), if not effectiveness.
I use a Volcano, pulling two bags, one at 5.5, one at 6.5 (up to about 200C). My duff is about like vtac's on the first page, maybe a bit browner.
I've made quite a few batches of brownies with my duff, using oil or cannabutter made by several methods, and this is what I've settled on, so far. I use this recipe http://baking.about.com/od/brownies/r/ultimate.htm , which makes a more fudge-like (rather than cake-like) brownie. I think brownies made with butter are better than those made with oil, so I make cannabutter with my duff.
I've tried a few ways of making cannabutter, and I've settled on this, mostly because it's quick. I haven't been able to tell much difference between using this method, and, say, the water and butter boiling method where you must refrigerate the resulting mixture to separate the butter out. Since you can use this method's butter immediately, you don't have to plan a day ahead to make your brownies.
Like Qbit, I use a saucepan and candy thermometer, and simmer the butter (1/2 lb for the recipe + about 2 tbsp for "waste") with 12g of well ground (but not flour-like) duff at about 110C for 25-30 minutes. The lower temperature keeps the butter from burning (it becomes clarified butter, or ghee) and, from what I've read and experienced, should be a high enough temperature to allow all of the goodies to bond to the fat molecules.
I strain it through cheesecloth and a gold permanent coffee filter into a Pyrex measuring cup. You can squeeze most of it out through the cheesecloth, but inevitably there's some loss, and I end up with 1/2 cup of melted brownish butter, which has that vaped-remains smell. Since the first step in the recipe is to melt the butter and chocolate together, I only need to dump it in a saucepan and add the chocolate for a few minutes.
I cut the resulting brownies into 15 doses. Most people find one plenty, and two sometimes can couchlock me (a daily vapornaut). I find that most of the duff-taste is "baked out". The brownies, judged just as brownies, taste pretty darn good.
I'm thinking of changing to a double boiler so I don't have to watch the temp. The method of boiling the water & butter together achieves the same thing, using the water to regulate the temperature. I wonder, though, if boiling it in the water may have the added benefit of bonding any hydrophyllic inactive substances that you wouldn't want in the result anyway to the water, which is then drained off. I may try that method again, just to see if it improves the taste (not that it needs much), if not effectiveness.
Don Vossol
Well-Known Member
Yo i'm a new member, I just made the ABV brownies yesterday. I had two pieces this morning when I woke up, and the brownies dominated me so far. But this was the first time i've ever eaten herb, so in general its a fairly new experience. I used the same recipe at the start of this thread with probably 20 grams of dirt mcgirt and a little more than 1/4 cup of canola oil. All in all they turned out awesome, not a shitty taste or repulsive as me and my friends thought it would be.
i just made my first batch of ABV oil.
i used about 15 grams of duff and 1/2 cup of oil. i let it simmer for around 30 minutes and now i have a dark greenish-brown oil. how should i consume it? unfortunally i dont have any brownie or cookie mix :/ so i was thinking of just downing a couple tablespoons of it but im not sure how much to use. any suggestions on amount or an idea of something i could whip up with this stuff?
i used about 15 grams of duff and 1/2 cup of oil. i let it simmer for around 30 minutes and now i have a dark greenish-brown oil. how should i consume it? unfortunally i dont have any brownie or cookie mix :/ so i was thinking of just downing a couple tablespoons of it but im not sure how much to use. any suggestions on amount or an idea of something i could whip up with this stuff?
Qbit
cannabanana
Well, if it was decent strength unvaped herb I'd go about 1/2 a gram's worth (assuming you have a fair tolerance), which, if my calculations are correct, would correspond to:VaporKing said:i just made my first batch of ABV oil.
125/(15*2) ml = 4.2 ml = about a teaspoon
I guess you must be using ABV with green in it still, so I'd say there'd be a fair few goodies left in it. So yeah 2 teaspoons sounds like a good amount to try out. If you don't feel much after an hour, have some more. Careful you don't have too much, as you could end up lying on your floor for half the day. And yeah, you can just down the stuff by itself if you want. Mixing it with something or cooking it in a recipe is just for convenience, taste and presentation.
But anyway, your post was days ago. So I'm guessing that by now you would have already tucked into your oil. So how is it? Report please.
Qbit
cannabanana
You can mix the oil in some yoghurt - it gives it a kind of nutty taste, and a creamier texture.VaporKing said:the duff i used was from the purple days vaporizer only so it did have some green left in it.
i only drank about 1 teaspoon and it gave me a small buzz but the taste was...
i think im going to make some brownies soon with what i have left.
purplechango
Well-Known Member
I have a warning....
i followed vtacs recipe more or less. the only diff was that I used like 4g of misc duff and 6 g of some pretty decent unvaped mids.
As for preparation i followed vtacs original post to the T, and now I wish i would have made a less concentrated oil! hahahahaha
The reason I say that i have a warning is that after I got done, I left a note on the brownies..."Do not eat, special brownies!" Not that I didnt wanna share the goodness, but Im the only one in the house that likes to take the majic flight.
So anyway, my wife gets home about 2 hrs after im done, and im asleep at this point. So i guess she reads my note, dosnt think twice and pinches......and i mean literally just pinched the corner. Couldnt have gotten a good taste cause it looked like a full batch.
Well sometime after she pinched, she runs into the room saying that she dosnt know if she is dreaming....and cant tell weather she is hearing noises or they are real!!!!!....LOL
BE WARNED! used this shiz with caution
i followed vtacs recipe more or less. the only diff was that I used like 4g of misc duff and 6 g of some pretty decent unvaped mids.
As for preparation i followed vtacs original post to the T, and now I wish i would have made a less concentrated oil! hahahahaha
The reason I say that i have a warning is that after I got done, I left a note on the brownies..."Do not eat, special brownies!" Not that I didnt wanna share the goodness, but Im the only one in the house that likes to take the majic flight.
So anyway, my wife gets home about 2 hrs after im done, and im asleep at this point. So i guess she reads my note, dosnt think twice and pinches......and i mean literally just pinched the corner. Couldnt have gotten a good taste cause it looked like a full batch.
Well sometime after she pinched, she runs into the room saying that she dosnt know if she is dreaming....and cant tell weather she is hearing noises or they are real!!!!!....LOL
BE WARNED! used this shiz with caution
Qbit
cannabanana
Bwahaha!!purplechango said:I have a warning....
i followed vtacs recipe more or less. the only diff was that I used like 4g of misc duff and 6 g of some pretty decent unvaped mids.
As for preparation i followed vtacs original post to the T, and now I wish i would have made a less concentrated oil! hahahahaha
The reason I say that i have a warning is that after I got done, I left a note on the brownies..."Do not eat, special brownies!" Not that I didnt wanna share the goodness, but Im the only one in the house that likes to take the majic flight.
So anyway, my wife gets home about 2 hrs after im done, and im asleep at this point. So i guess she reads my note, dosnt think twice and pinches......and i mean literally just pinched the corner. Couldnt have gotten a good taste cause it looked like a full batch.
Well sometime after she pinched, she runs into the room saying that she dosnt know if she is dreaming....and cant tell weather she is hearing noises or they are real!!!!!....LOL
BE WARNED! used this shiz with caution
Reminds me of a Russian guy I met in Cambodia a couple of years ago, and the small slice of happy pizza he fed to his unsuspecting, non-weed-consuming wife. I told him it would be too much but he didn't take heed. More or less the same result. 
At least she had a nice tropical beach to recover on.Mind you, even with a saturation-level weed tolerance I wouldn't go much more than about half a gram of good unvaped bud's worth of pot cuisine in one hit (more though, of course, when ABV or weaker green is used). But yeah, when you have no tolerance you hardly need anything.
purplechango
Well-Known Member
Qbit said:........... But yeah, when you have no tolerance you hardly need anything.
i wish that was me again
VaPe iT tHeN bAkE iT
Joe Dirt
im a noob at baking...so i made brownies the first time....if they say eat 1...do it!! i didnt listen...im not used to waiting 2hrs to get high..i like instant...first i was licking the batter alot...then once they were dun i had 2....waited an hour n felt nuttin so i ate 2 1/2 more...wat a mistake..this was at 7 on a sunday night...woke up at 3am..dizzy as hell...couldnt even walk..it was like i was really drunk...i was fukkkkd upp till monday afternoon...i dnt even kno how i drove to work..i still cant rember it...it got me sik a lil too..threw up the last brownie i guess..cuz after that the sickness was gone but the high was still there..no more brownies for me....now i make kush cakes...i learned my lesson...now i eat 1 piece an vape right after so im high now n wen that wears off the cake jus started to kick in... im high the rest of the night...this is soooooooooooooooooooo much better than smoking with fire...wish i knew bout this sooner
jeffp
psychonaut/retired
Fantastic info on the brownie recipe. It's a bit of a project but a fun and delicious project, it seems.
If you're from the fast and dirty school like me, check out this effective but sleazy simple alternative:
They're called "Firecrackers" - get some crackers and peanut butter from the store.
Mix your finely ground material in with some peanut butter.
Then spread the mixture on some crackers and then make sandwiches - putting the crackers together.
Put in the toaster oven and heat at 350 and take it out AS SOON as you start seeing smoke.
You're done.
Looks and taste like shit - worse than the buffet at the Holiday Inn - but it works very well.
I must try the brownie recipe though....
If you're from the fast and dirty school like me, check out this effective but sleazy simple alternative:
They're called "Firecrackers" - get some crackers and peanut butter from the store.
Mix your finely ground material in with some peanut butter.
Then spread the mixture on some crackers and then make sandwiches - putting the crackers together.
Put in the toaster oven and heat at 350 and take it out AS SOON as you start seeing smoke.
You're done.
Looks and taste like shit - worse than the buffet at the Holiday Inn - but it works very well.
I must try the brownie recipe though....
bluntfaced
I'm El Diablo Baby!!!
Firecrackers with duff would be so gnarly
Happycamper
Sweet Dreams Babycakes
You have to use the oil or butter method to extract the thc and make it combine with the oil or butter for it to be effective.stickstones said:
If you just put the avb or even unused stuff as it is into what you are cooking it will be very weak.
The thc is not water soluable, when eating our bodies find it much easier to absorb the thc when it has been extracted and bound in oil or butter.
edit: but dont use margarine, it wont work the same.
jeffp
psychonaut/retired
Well, this recipe worked out quite nicely; I'm still feeling the effects from last night.
Two brownies filled with PD duff and two PD tubes and i was tripping.
I didn't have an egg but I added a teaspoon of liquid lecithin prior to stirring.
Would be interested in a comparison just on the basis of effects between the brownie approach and the simpler "firecracker" approach -
there are a few recipes regarding the "firecracker" that get into the details more specifically.
Two brownies filled with PD duff and two PD tubes and i was tripping.
I didn't have an egg but I added a teaspoon of liquid lecithin prior to stirring.
Would be interested in a comparison just on the basis of effects between the brownie approach and the simpler "firecracker" approach -
there are a few recipes regarding the "firecracker" that get into the details more specifically.
Hennessy1414
Terrorist
WOOOOT... sit down and enjoy the AVB show
Made 30 grams of duff butter last night...was counting on some other duff to 'spice' this up a tad bit more...but my friend with the extra duff flaked on me :/ Oh well this was still a solid amount to make my own version of Rice Krispies
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I call em peanut butter duffers (name of the cereal was peanut butter bumpers)
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YAY fuck combustion
see ya next time folks
sit down and enjoy the AVB showMade 30 grams of duff butter last night...was counting on some other duff to 'spice' this up a tad bit more...but my friend with the extra duff flaked on me :/ Oh well this was still a solid amount to make my own version of Rice Krispies
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I call em peanut butter duffers (name of the cereal was peanut butter bumpers)
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YAY fuck combustion
see ya next time folks