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Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

kushcabbage

vapor nerd
Sorry to hear boss but your gonna regret it. Just saying your gonna wish you had it when the next idea in my head gets finalized.
wish it was made from a plastic or derlin. On any device it is quite top heavy, I only use a thermovape alpha handle, so its a bit much. Like the design though.
 
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Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
Accessory Maker
Thread is dead today! Wtf

Well I got with G and ordered a new glass tube and some o rings, as well as got my tops shipped out. So hopefully (Please Fucking God) everything will make it to me (Fucking USPS and other fiascos) and I can make some more videos.
 
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DieHard

Accessory supplier
Accessory Maker
Re-edit of my Hercules SR-71 action video. It better shows the "Vapor Saber". This was done with a room temp Herc to begin with. I'm not sure why it got cut short before.
 
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StickyShisha2

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i packed away my Okeanos. center tube clogs at the baffles after 2 hits. needs redesign. testers must have been using ejuice not shatter. shatter just hardens in the tiny holes. its packed away so i won't say more about this thing until version 2 parts are in the works.

on to happier things:
i just cleaned my SR71 and am now using the ti mesh (coil).
i boiled it and torched it. then thought about taking a dab off it.
i don't have anything to say about it yet other than the height looks good to me.
 

next level

Well-Known Member
Ouch.

Still pissed as I spent the last 2 hours in the ER having glass removed from 2 fingers. This is weird as boro is not supposed to shatter like. Unless its subjected to rapid temperature variations. It also supposed to snap not splinter.

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ED421

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i packed away my Okeanos. center tube clogs at the baffles after 2 hits. needs redesign. testers must have been using ejuice not shatter. shatter just hardens in the tiny holes. its packed away so i won't say more about this thing until version 2 parts are in the works.

on to happier things:
i just cleaned my SR71 and am now using the ti mesh (coil).
i boiled it and torched it. then thought about taking a dab off it.
i don't have anything to say about it yet other than the height looks good to me.
I completely cleaned mine out and started fresh. I loaded the tiniest amount i could and it clogged after literally a half a hit. I might try Sleeping in CA's suggestion about getting a little extra headroom with some O-rings. If that doesn't work I'll put mine away too until future upgrades. I'm tired of messing with it.
On a positive note, I could not be happier with my SR 74. I loaded .6 of some crumble on top of the coil a few days ago and it still tastes amazing. I'm wondering how often I should clean this thing. Any suggestions? Right now I have nothing dripping down into the bottom chamber. The threads on the top metal cap are a bit dirty but other than it seems ok. Should I just keep loading more into it until I have a problem, or should I plan on doing regular maintenance every few Gs or so?
 
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StickyShisha2

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is the rod in the 74 held in the same way as in the 71? what i mean is, can he take out the rod and torch off the build up, the way i do with the 71?
 
StickyShisha2,

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Ouch.

Still pissed as I spent the last 2 hours in the ER having glass removed from 2 fingers. This is weird as boro is not supposed to shatter like. Unless its subjected to rapid temperature variations. It also supposed to snap not splinter.

nsrTk8E.jpg

I do apologize for what is going on, but i just spoke with our glass engineer and he said Boro glass does splinter shatter and even split. We use Simax glass in all our Okeanos devices.

As for the glass i will be happy to replace it, just pm me your information.


I also noticed the top has a black oring, where did you get that?
 
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MileHighLife

Blower of glass, grower of grass
testers must have been using ejuice not shatter.
I remember thcscientific explaining a while back that there wouldn't be testers for the Okeanos because of it's simple design. That's one reason I didn't get one right away ... all ya'll are the testers and you still had to pay for the thing :doh:

Edit: pretty much every piece of glass in a head shop is made of boro ... I'm pretty sure most of us have experienced a shattered pipe along the way
 
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StickyShisha2

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Should I just keep loading more into it until I have a problem, or should I plan on doing regular maintenance every few Gs or so?

when using a de-waxed shatter, you can run through quite a few grams before it starts to taste a bit dirty or burnt. Then just slide out the rod, clean off the build up, and torch the shit out of it. It will look white as new.

as long as your loaded coil of oil doesn't get too over heated, not too much leaks down to the bottom chamber. i got better at that after a little while.
 
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next level

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I do apologize for what is going on, but i just spoke with our glass engineer and he said Boro glass does splinter shatter and even split. We use Simax glass in all our Okeanos devices.

As for the glass i will be happy to replace it, just pm me your information.


I also noticed the top has a black oring, where did you get that?
Yep Boro will splinter, shatter, and even split. But like I said in my post Boro is not supposed to shatter like this unless it subjected to rapid temperature variations. And no its not supposed to splinter like this either. What was his reason for this happening?

The glass is so fragile it shattered, sending dust particles and shards of glass flying. This is what I was referring to above. This should not of happened. Lucky I wear glasses. Look at home little of the glass remains in my photo. I am not a glass engineer. But I am an engineer that has a couple years experience with glass under his belt...

My original oring snapped the first time I put it back together. This one came out of my tool box. Almost the same as the original. Lowes or Home Depot is where I bought them. I would suggest adding 2 or more extras into each Okeanos box.
 

Bleed4Me

I LURK
I remember thcscientific explaining a while back that there wouldn't be testers for the Okeanos because of it's simple design. That's one reason I didn't get one right away ... all ya'll are the testers and you still had to pay for the thing :doh:

Edit: pretty much every piece of glass in a head shop is made of boro ... I'm pretty sure most of us have experienced a shattered pipe along the way

I was kind of waiting too. The thought of glass hitting stainless steel on two sides was making me think about waiting. That's some pretty tough impact if it has to be done over and over. I think @Sleepin in CA should change the title of his videos to Okeanos User Manual instead of User Error because lubing dry orings makes a lot of sense. Almost too much sense. Like maybe there ought to be a little smear of it included in the kit? Doesn't sound like user error if people don't know. Maybe the stainless pieces are bumping the boro? Crazy. I've had some boro pipes weather some serious abuse (shows and melvins droppin my pieces) but those seem to be giving pretty easily, if not being bumped by those metal pieces.
 
Bleed4Me,

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@next level I am not going to argue the properties of glass as this isn't my area of expertise.


I just want to point out that you did not use the proper orings that came with the unit. This in turn when you pressed the top into the glass it created a crack and ran down the side and split the glass in three. Now out gals we sourced from Simax it is a quality piece but if miss handled it will break.


Please pm me and I'll send out a new oring and glass piece.


@MileHighLife

We tested our units not with FC members but with our own test group. Once again every single vape has issues specially on a new model. The glass on the Okeanos is thin walled and we did subject it to test of it tipping over on a wooden table.


We will go back and take a look again on polycarbonate to be more user friendly.
 
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Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
Accessory Maker
I labeled it user error, as I have only been able to replicate these issues by intentional misloading/overdrawing etc. I can only speak from my direct experience. As for the lubing orings.....maybe it's not as common sense as assumed, but I have always lubed anything with them to promote a better seal. Automotive experience maybe? As to the glass issue, I am willing to believe in a flawed section of tubing being out there. It's glass after all. Replacements are cheap (I know cuz I bought one), so no biggie. As for injuries......care is needed...it is glass. That said, there was an aftermarket o ring involved, so who knows. Maybe it overtaxed the tube in that ONE case. Mine was out of left field so who knows. Probably just flawed glass. Shit happens.

For the record.....As a version 1 unit.....I still dig it. When used right.....it's got no equal.
 

jeffzorz

Active Member
just ordered a sr74, persei and a nibbler xl. hopefully those are all in stock. is there anything else I'm going to need? Also I'm going to be running a booth at hempcon on 420 and id love to stock your products. do you wholesale?
 

Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
Accessory Maker
just ordered a sr74, persei and a nibbler xl. hopefully those are all in stock. is there anything else I'm going to need? Also I'm going to be running a booth at hempcon on 420 and id love to stock your products. do you wholesale?
Vaseline to lube o rings, and loads of wax!
 

jeffzorz

Active Member
Vaseline to lube o rings, and loads of wax!
from the beautiful sun shine state, more honeycomb than I know what to do with. stoked to have this setup ready in time for hempcon. Thanks for the videos you post, I've been lurking since dec but your the reason I finally purchased. Now I need to get rid of this provari mini...
 

Sleepin in CA

Higher than a Pterodactyl, you can call me Caveman
Accessory Maker
from the beautiful sun shine state, more honeycomb than I know what to do with. stoked to have this setup ready in time for hempcon. Thanks for the videos you post, I've been lurking since dec but your the reason I finally purchased. Now I need to get rid of this provari mini...
Nice man. Trust me....the Hercules/Nibbler XL combo cannot be beat. Hands down best vape on the market.
 

WetMacula

Member
New to this and looking for advice. Lots of questions. I've been using CO2 oil in a buck naked ecig pen for a few months. Looking for something better to use with the same oil. What is your recommendation?

I was thinking about trying a Persei with KISS Ti heater and (1) 3.9 volt cell to start. Not looking for huge hits. Prefer consistency and conservation of oil if possible. Is the KISS Ti the best option for CO2 oil (mine is viscous but can be squeezed through a syringe at room temperature and will flow by gravity when heated). Looks like the standard kit comes with (1) housing for (2) 3.9 cells. Why not sell the Persei standard with (2) threaded housings to hold (2) batteries? I assume the KISS Ti voltage must match the battery voltage? If my assumptions are correct, I would have to buy a 3.9 KISS Ti and the 2 part battery housing in addition to the $160 kit. This makes it too expensive in my opinion. Can I buy a Persei top or a kit designed for 3.9 volts?

The photos appear to be dated on the W9tech site. Does the KISS Ti in the standard kit come matt black? I want all black if possible.

Anybody try both the nibbler and nibbler xl? I would like a water bubbler for use around the house. Any better options for water cooling?
 
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Caligula

Maximus
FWIW, CO2 oil works AMAZINGLY with the traditional 2.4 Omicron carts. Just dont fill more than 0.5g-0.7g at once.

The KISS is better for anything more stable (solid) though.
 
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