Discontinued Pinnacle Pro
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Philreal187
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I ordered the pnp a few days ago but have been looking at the solo since I did haha, and I never even seen/ used my pnp yet haha. im gonna use my pnp for a few months and decide if I should move in on the solo. I want to really just wait few years then get a new portable cuz at the rate these r popping up and the attention they r getting im sure there is gonna be some really nice models the near future. Patience is what the old folks taught..
Its very true we are in high tech vaping infancy, bumps in quality are to be expected. We are talking about right now though. There is plastic melting in our "pieces". Idk about you, but I'd want that fixed.
Since you haven't received yours yet you wont actually realize how easy this could happen so its understandable, but man its a scary thing. We are trying to avoid carcinogenic inhalents not go to them lol.
Since you haven't received yours yet you wont actually realize how easy this could happen so its understandable, but man its a scary thing. We are trying to avoid carcinogenic inhalents not go to them lol.
Thats different from what the other guy posted though.
Those posts are understandable since herb material gives off natural plant oils you can't avoid that lol. Theres a reason why we have to clean it still. Even all glass will have some residue staining. Plus they did modify the PonG. This is after the fact though and it involves the PonG touching the bullet and melting pieces. I don't want that risk, neither should anyone else.
Those posts are understandable since herb material gives off natural plant oils you can't avoid that lol. Theres a reason why we have to clean it still. Even all glass will have some residue staining. Plus they did modify the PonG. This is after the fact though and it involves the PonG touching the bullet and melting pieces. I don't want that risk, neither should anyone else.
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Philreal187
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Yeah once I was reading about that melting stuff that's when I was second guessing my choice to go pnp and not solo. I hope if just keeping my pnp heat on 3 and lower will help from this happening. but inhaling plasic aint no joke and if that a fault to the unit I believe the company should provide each owner with a revised version on the mouth piece free of cost kind of like a recall opinion. Im sure the vapor blunts not the largest company with expendable funds but customer satisfaction needs to be the top priority for any company small or large. Either way im excited to get this vape in my hands to really test it out if I find that its melting in anyway im sending it back with out hesitation. I wont spend my money on something that can be a serious health threat. I believe most people vape for the health so this should always be the first standard is a healthy clean product.
MuushuPork
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I have been using my pnp regularly since last year and I go up to 4 with no ill effects on the casing or mouthpieces thus far. The only issue I have is finding a consensus on how to clean and what chemicals to use to clean it. Seems like the best option would be to leave the screen alone and try to soak in something non-toxic. Any ideas or help are appreciated.
Yeah I agree. I mentioned that earlier too. Its something that should be addressed.
There is a difference between negligence and lack of care for your device and a flaw in design. That flaw makes the melting possible, it can be avoided, but its possible. A new type of mouth piece would aleviate those conserns for me.
HSIHP
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I'd like to chime in on the solo vs pnp talk. All in all I find the solo to be much easier to use and while at home relaxing I would reach for the solo anout 7 time out of 10. That said when I want high temp effects, later in the night, I always grab the pnp. Most nights I use the solo on 3 or 4 and save the Abv to stuff a pnp bullet and finish it off before getting ready for bed.
When I'm with a group of fiends the pnp is always the way to go. Bigger capacity, no glass to accidentally drop and most of my friends who combust like it more than the solo. The pnp is also far superior for on the go vaping and has become my go to out of the house vape. Especially for concerts or just going out for the night, the pnp works like a charm and is so small no one even knows I'm hitting it.
If I could have only one out of the two I would choose the solo but if I could only have one portable vape in my collection the pnp would be the one for me.
Edit: just wanted to say that I have never had any problems with melting plastic. Even with the ones that were accidentally given to us at the beginning. I have only used level 5 about 4 times though and I would guess that unless you did back to back sessions at that temp I would not have a melting problem.
When I'm with a group of fiends the pnp is always the way to go. Bigger capacity, no glass to accidentally drop and most of my friends who combust like it more than the solo. The pnp is also far superior for on the go vaping and has become my go to out of the house vape. Especially for concerts or just going out for the night, the pnp works like a charm and is so small no one even knows I'm hitting it.
If I could have only one out of the two I would choose the solo but if I could only have one portable vape in my collection the pnp would be the one for me.
Edit: just wanted to say that I have never had any problems with melting plastic. Even with the ones that were accidentally given to us at the beginning. I have only used level 5 about 4 times though and I would guess that unless you did back to back sessions at that temp I would not have a melting problem.
MuushuPork
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One more quick thing. Ive found that if the unit is too hot after shut-off or if I want the bullet quickly out, I just pull on the unit as if it was on and it cools much faster.
EDIT: I know it seems obvious but I had an aha moment recently.
EDIT: I know it seems obvious but I had an aha moment recently.
llamaman001
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Do any of yall find your PNP too harsh without water? I love running my SOLO on 7, my pax on HIGH, and t-vape at max temp as well but for the life of me I could not use the PNP dry. Maybe it was just my unit but anything over level 1 and it felt like I was literally damaging my throat. As if someone was turning a blow dryer on high and shoving it down my throat. I like a little pain now and then but it felt like it was doing some serious damage. I shared the PNP with 5 of my combustion friends and they couldent even handle it. After one drag their throats couldent handle any more and they went into a coughing fit and this never happened with any other vape they have tried.
Was my unit defective possibly?
Was my unit defective possibly?
llamaman001
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Maybe that was it then, I just like to rip my vapes pretty hard. Guess Im just to used to the pax, solo, and t-vape.
Before I sold my pnp I thought about hooking up some tubing to the PONG but then that was defeat the entire purpose of being "portable"
Before I sold my pnp I thought about hooking up some tubing to the PONG but then that was defeat the entire purpose of being "portable"
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I have a hard time past level 1 dry until I messed around with the clear pong and made me a new mouthpiece using glass from the Ascent, I can use level 3 with just a little harshness. I had to sand down the pong so the glass piece would fit. I like to use the pnp with the WT.
I love my Solo, I have been using it more since I bought the PVHES mouthpieces, not as hard of a draw, it's perfection.
I love my Solo, I have been using it more since I bought the PVHES mouthpieces, not as hard of a draw, it's perfection.
Yeah this thing is pretty easy to draw from. I don't pull that hard. The magic flight needs a very very very gentle draw technique. So thats probably why I can handle 4-5 no problem. Its just getting used to the idea that the harder you draw does not equal more smoke, it equals hotter air and the same amount of vapor lol.
Haven't had any issues with my mouthpiece so far **knock on wood** but I don't use the PONG that came with mine, as it was the thinner plastic that was shipped accidentally. I just slip a small section of SSV tubing on the mouthpiece and it interfaces with my water tube nicely. I always vape at 4-5.
Dreamerr
Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
I have new mp/pongs and they melt just the same or shall I say creep. I still stand by my statement these plastic things are not up for the job. I only have a PN not the pro and only use low which is still to high for the plastic evidently and I still have the issue. There is no getting around it unless you doohicky glass. I love my PN but the plastic just sucks.
The solo and the PN/P are two different animals. PN/P is better for stealth and ease of loading using my method. The solo wins in every other area. I love my PN and bring it with me every time I am out. I use it at home on occasion for a change of pace but not as much as my solo my fav vape, ssv, INH among others. I do rotate throughout the day to alleviate boredom.
The solo and the PN/P are two different animals. PN/P is better for stealth and ease of loading using my method. The solo wins in every other area. I love my PN and bring it with me every time I am out. I use it at home on occasion for a change of pace but not as much as my solo my fav vape, ssv, INH among others. I do rotate throughout the day to alleviate boredom.
Dreamerr
Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
Sorry we have been talking about this before the pnp even came out and trvb says this is the way and keeps it this way. Look at the baker same plastic. They are a plastic vape company. If you like there stuff buy it if you don't don't. I like the pn because of ease period. I bought it for a very specific reason and it has filled that need. I wouldn't have bought it for my only portable or only vape period. VB is very unwilling to listen or change this part of there vapes and that is there choice. Your choice is either to support them or not. They were very clear that they don't think it is an issue. Maybe it is the residual money they get from them creeping and you having to buy a new one
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MuushuPork
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I think the whole solo v. pnp discussion is apples and oranges. The PNP is just not meant to be your go to home vape. The SOLO is used by some to travel but is really meant to be a desktop imo. I almost never use the PNP at home, but on the road I sip up to the 4 setting and have no issues with burn. I have a DBV and the PNP is strictly for travel. The solo is not
If we don't get word from them. I am returning my Pinnacle and getting a Solo. I like the Pinnacle because it is small, and it vapes pretty well. Thats what I saw, and thats what I wanted. I want a small vape I can use at home or on the go. The PnP is that for me. I am not a "heavy" vape user. So its perfect. Its just that flaw that makes me reconsider.
I don't want to worry about something as simple as having to hold it vertically to avoid the issue. I want it to be a little bit more robust than that. I thought the MFLB wasn't robust but compared to this it seems like a rock.
I don't want to worry about something as simple as having to hold it vertically to avoid the issue. I want it to be a little bit more robust than that. I thought the MFLB wasn't robust but compared to this it seems like a rock.
I often use my PNP at home, even though I have a Herbie, Sublimator, etc....I really enjoy it's high temps, and sometimes it's nice to just kick back on the couch with a small unit.
Thats what makes it have really good potential. I have that same reasoning with it too.
This is what makes me hinge on their actions with this. If its bad I will return it. No doubt. I just got it so I still have that choice.