He showed me some photos of the new WT on the PnP.
U can see the comparisons between the VB2 WT, New VB2 WT and the Pnp WT here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111273164822?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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He showed me some photos of the new WT on the PnP.
U can see the comparisons between the VB2 WT, New VB2 WT and the Pnp WT here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111273164822?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
OK, a few more hours of usage, I think this glass is much nicer than the PonG, the flush connection against the bullet is giving me a much more efficient hit i think too. Now I dont need to push down at all to make a seal, I filed the top of the PonG collar a little more and got it to exactly the right height. The GonG is still wobbly tho, just needs securing into the collar and then I'll be very happy with this. The glass piece was a mere £17/$28 inc. shipping from Oregon to the UK.
Now with spare o-ring/seal ring thing from the top of a Vocano easy valve
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Now with spare o-ring/seal ring thing from the top of a Vocano easy valve
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al bundy
Vaporist
More than enough. I can't remember the PnP charge time.
Just load a bullet , put it in,turn it on to 2 let it heat up, you could start vaping when the first light is steady,
and vape away.
Level 1 is good too but I think 2 is the way to start , you could always adjust up or down, I use 2 &3 depending on the herb.
Just load a bullet , put it in,turn it on to 2 let it heat up, you could start vaping when the first light is steady,
and vape away.
Level 1 is good too but I think 2 is the way to start , you could always adjust up or down, I use 2 &3 depending on the herb.
Ratm22
Cloud Transcender
That's how I used mine. Lower temps with no water. Usually less that 2 hour charge time
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
TRVB said its OK to leave it on the charger, it has an automatic shut off. I hope everybody is enjoying their new units. It fun to get a new unit. I get the darkest ABV with the Pnp, it's great at extracting the good stuff.
The Water Tool that goes with the Pnp is so awesome!
Good Times!!
The Water Tool that goes with the Pnp is so awesome!
Good Times!!
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063_XOBX
Ganjapreneur
I'm getting some hairline cracks and semi-transparent patches around the screen of my mouthpiece. Anyone know if the mouthpiece is under warranty? I switched to the PonG since it can't be healthy to vaporize plastic but I've only had the unit a couple weeks and don't want to wind up SOL.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
There's a bit of history problems with the mouthpiece. Don't soak it in iso that seems to weaken the material it's made of, other members have mentioned this. A lot of folks are using the pong as a mouthpiece, just because it feels more comfortable and less harsh vapor. It's a great little unit for the most part. VB will get it right.
@063_XOBX
This is how mine started, first a transparent look appeared in the circular piece of plastic around the screen, then bits started disappearing, then it was completely mangled. How much plastic did I vaporise? I don't know, but what I do know is you will be up against it if you need a new one mate, I've been emailing them since December (are you listening @TherealVaporblunt?) and still have no replacement, and not even any confirmation they will send one.
Some pages back I remember them saying they are "available" lol that has not been my experience at all!
If this is the sort of customer service and aftercare I can expect from this company I won't ever be buying from them again.
Good luck sorting it, I really want to love my pinnacle pro but at the moment it's just so hard to do that, for something so easy to fix.
This is how mine started, first a transparent look appeared in the circular piece of plastic around the screen, then bits started disappearing, then it was completely mangled. How much plastic did I vaporise? I don't know, but what I do know is you will be up against it if you need a new one mate, I've been emailing them since December (are you listening @TherealVaporblunt?) and still have no replacement, and not even any confirmation they will send one.
Some pages back I remember them saying they are "available" lol that has not been my experience at all!
If this is the sort of customer service and aftercare I can expect from this company I won't ever be buying from them again.
Good luck sorting it, I really want to love my pinnacle pro but at the moment it's just so hard to do that, for something so easy to fix.
First impressions about the Pinnacle Pro.
AWESOME! This unit tastes exactly like a MFLB. The strange taste after a while is the taste of spent herb in the chamber, which happens on the MFLB too except it takes a while to get there. The flavor is very nice before it is spent. Its very aromatic and tasty in your mouth. I love the pure herb taste that vaporization gives since it does not have any of residual nastiness in your throat when compared to the combustible method, and this vape lives up to that. My minimum taste requirements that the MFLB set for me when I first started vaporizing have been met and maybe even elevated by this thing. As far as the quality I can see where other people are coming from in that aspect. The plastic body is something that should be upgraded to maybe a solid stainless steel body, or of a material that is more dense that doesn't feel as "plasticy" or hollow. Taking a draw is great, and you can pull nice puffy vapors for a long while. The battery so far is as expected for a device this size, and I did use it several times(1-4 min each time) before even one bar dissipated from the indicator lights. It is the first time I have used it so I still have to test it for a while before I know its ins and outs.
I really do like it. I will provide pictures and actual size comparisons that don't make the thing look really thick and fat. Sleek and very cool and modern looking for a Vape. Really matches with the current design trend in mobile technology and electronics. Easy to use, and cool looking. I really really like it.
I am concerned with the break down of the draw piece and I do hope that there aren't any plastic fumes going into the draw chamber either. I also will personally investigate how the plastic piece can break down, that actually worries me.
Also, I cannot wait to try the water tool. It seems like such an awesome addition to this thing.
@TherealVaporblunt I hope we can get a few answers on the materials and its relation to our health. That is a bit concerning, for an otherwise great product.
AWESOME! This unit tastes exactly like a MFLB. The strange taste after a while is the taste of spent herb in the chamber, which happens on the MFLB too except it takes a while to get there. The flavor is very nice before it is spent. Its very aromatic and tasty in your mouth. I love the pure herb taste that vaporization gives since it does not have any of residual nastiness in your throat when compared to the combustible method, and this vape lives up to that. My minimum taste requirements that the MFLB set for me when I first started vaporizing have been met and maybe even elevated by this thing. As far as the quality I can see where other people are coming from in that aspect. The plastic body is something that should be upgraded to maybe a solid stainless steel body, or of a material that is more dense that doesn't feel as "plasticy" or hollow. Taking a draw is great, and you can pull nice puffy vapors for a long while. The battery so far is as expected for a device this size, and I did use it several times(1-4 min each time) before even one bar dissipated from the indicator lights. It is the first time I have used it so I still have to test it for a while before I know its ins and outs.
I really do like it. I will provide pictures and actual size comparisons that don't make the thing look really thick and fat. Sleek and very cool and modern looking for a Vape. Really matches with the current design trend in mobile technology and electronics. Easy to use, and cool looking. I really really like it.
I am concerned with the break down of the draw piece and I do hope that there aren't any plastic fumes going into the draw chamber either. I also will personally investigate how the plastic piece can break down, that actually worries me.
Also, I cannot wait to try the water tool. It seems like such an awesome addition to this thing.
@TherealVaporblunt I hope we can get a few answers on the materials and its relation to our health. That is a bit concerning, for an otherwise great product.
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Philreal187
Well-Known Member
I'm about to make the move and get the PNP dlx off theyoyokid on ebay since I live in pa. My last bit of concern is I don't wanna make the purchase and 3 to 4 months later an all glass path is made for the pro with longer battery haha... I really think ill get more from the pro then solo due to portability. I have a reliable vapor brothers box for the house unit and that thing is 4 years old and just as good as day one. I hope I can get the same quality with the PNP. I believe in a few years something like the firefly will be the best portable for a few quick discreet hits once this battery game gets up to par on all vapes. Concluding over a month of portable vape research I really liked the PNP, solo, firefly, and ascent. PNP DLX sold me quite a few weeks ago after I realized that the portable vape game is more then MFLB which was my first choice BEFORE endless review and FC forum reading. At the end of the day vaping is an investment in health so as I continue to vape more and less combustion ill know I'm being a friend to my older self so this is peace of mind. Thanks to every for sharing and helping with this forum its truly the vastest quality knowledge on the portable vape scene.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
I am getting the exact same thing after getting my unit delivered to Australia (my home country) last week!
@Engineer
The PonG is the one that has melted on mine! Capping your bullets with cut-to-fit pipe filter screens (the metal ones you can buy from any dodgy tobacconist/head shop) seems essential!
It seems that when the unit is in use at heats 3-5 with either the PonG or standard mouthpiece, if it is held at a downward angle towards the user, the bullet tips up and the heated contents melt the plastic edges around the filter screen.
I would love to see an all glass Pong adapter for the PNP ( @Clear_Dome ) , and would gladly pay for one, it seriously changed my mind about vapes being too cumbersome!
TRVB, give us some love!
I figured for what it's worth I should give my other impressions about the unit!
Aside from what I mentioned above, the melty Pong/Mouthpiece adapters are the Achilles heal of what is otherwise an incredible device. The other minor issue is the battery life - 50 mins if you use low settings. I have gone from a very heavy smoking habit (joints, 20-40 a day for years mostly bud and occasionally hash), and would love to be out for the day with my PNP and not need to constantly recharge to appease my one remaining cheeky habit.
The bullets are a great idea, but for the love of Christ, don't touch them for a good minute or five after use. They are hot! I've burned myself a couple of times when I was somewhat indisposed from some unscrupulous vapours
The FMJ bullet, at least with the hash I have seen used, (never seen any other oils/BHO etc) is useless. The air pressure is too restrictive and you really have to suck the air through! Not great!
However, as many here may know, cutting small flakes of hash and putting it on top of a half-full flower bullet and then topping it off with more bud is ideal!
Three warnings from a clumsy owner -
- DO NOT GET TOO ENTHUSIASTIC WITH CLEANING! I know someone who used the supplied brush to clean some extraneous AVB from the heating chamber - far too soon after use on heat setting 3. Luckily, the clumsy owner managed to realise before fully entering the brush into the chamber.
They still spent the next 4.5 hours scrubbing the chamber with the nearest white grain alcohol (Bacardi) before letting the alcohol evaporate and seeing a clean enough chamber to contemplate using again - after another 3 hours of further cleaning.
- Do not use the device on heat settings 4 or 5 at any other angle apart from vertical with mouthpiece facing up. EVER. You are going to melt your PonG or melt the tip of your mouthpiece after enough of this.
- Do run the device for a good half hour to an hour on the highest setting after giving it its initial 3 hour charge. Someone I know's unit had some dust and whatnot in the chamber that they'd much rather clean out/cook into the air than breath in with their desired materials!
Finally, if I could encourage anything at all (I know I'm a newcomer here and please, take what I say for what you believe it's worth!):
- please remember to cap your bullets with a good metal screen on the top of your materials. It will prevent unpleasant damage to your mouthpiece/pong and save you valuable cashish!
Kindest regards,
The Herbivore
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Gray Area
Well-Known Member
He's been releasing his stock a bit at a time over a number of days apparently.
Keep trying is my advice.
I am a bit worried as the inhailer is looking slightly different around the edges since using it in the PnP. I haven't used the adapter mouth piece so it looks new, and there is a difference between them. I am going to hold off on it for a while, maybe even return it depending on what they plan on doing with it. I have only had this thing for one whole day, this is pretty concerning. Now I could be mistaking things on the screen for resin, but the outer edges not the inner edges of the piece that goes into the Pnp has markings on it.
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Wise words indeed... I had a similar problem with not thinking it thru properly regarding the brush! Silly me.
Re: The PonG, this is the reason I've gone the route I have. I use my PnP in my bong quite a lot with oil/keif (level four and five, PnP upside down), and a ring of plastic melted off the PonG, funnily enough leaving a ring indentation that fit the top of the bullet perfectly (an NO2 screen nicely tops the bullet off and fixes it in place, stopping it from touching the PonG but it prevents easy switch out of bullets). Im guessing the bullets retain the heat, me using it upside down then melted the PonG thru prolonged contact.
So I've recently chopped the top off the PonG, taken the screen out, filed the PonG's ribs down a bit and come up with this instead. I now just use a tiny bit of cut down screen on top of the bullet instead of a whole cap. Much easier to clean the glass than the PonG.
As you can see, the glass pokes out the bottom and will fit against the bullet if thats wanted, even without making sure there is a connection between glass and bullet, the glass protusion prevents the bullet from touching the PonG at all.
samuraix420
Active Member
Great work, I would totally be willing to pay for some kind of all glass path for the PNP.
Wise words indeed... I had a similar problem with not thinking it thru properly regarding the brush! Silly me.
Re: The PonG, this is the reason I've gone the route I have. I use my PnP in my bong quite a lot with oil/keif (level four and five, PnP upside down), and a ring of plastic melted off the PonG, funnily enough leaving a ring indentation that fit the top of the bullet perfectly (an NO2 screen nicely tops the bullet off and fixes it in place, stopping it from touching the PonG but it prevents easy switch out of bullets). Im guessing the bullets retain the heat, me using it upside down then melted the PonG thru prolonged contact.
So I've recently chopped the top off the PonG, taken the screen out, filed the PonG's ribs down a bit and come up with this instead. I now just use a tiny bit of cut down screen on top of the bullet instead of a whole cap. Much easier to clean the glass than the PonG.
As you can see, the glass pokes out the bottom and will fit against the bullet if thats wanted, even without making sure there is a connection between glass and bullet, the glass protusion prevents the bullet from touching the PonG at all.
That sounds like a solution that @TherealVaporblunt should implement and give to current owners. I would much rather have glass to metal then plastic to metal. This is still a device that handles herb, and the vapors should contain natural plant vapor(that leaves resin on solid surfaces) and air. The herb is being heated up pretty hot, so there should be nothing in the way of the air flow that can be affected by the heat. I don't want to inhale plastic fumes, what would be the point of avoiding combustion then if we are just inhaling plastic?
I would feel much more comfortable with the company providing a solution like yours except with two types, a mouth piece form, and an adapter form. If cost is a factor, include the mouth piece for free, and the adapter can be sold separately. That shouldn't be a problem business is business. (Of course if someone were to have purchased a WT as well I would like the idea that we would get an adapter for free as well.) I hope we aren't falling on deaf ears, this is a great product, there just needs to be some refinements.
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Having gone thru all 130+ pages at least twice, I know the issue of 'is this plastic safe?' has been addressed a couple of times and I feel like enough work has been done by @Engineering @TherealVaporblunt to show the PonG plastic is perfectly safe... However, nobody wants to see bits falling off, or cracks from the heat etc etc, so I thought I'd try and cobble together some sort of solution. I absolutely love my PnP to bits, I'd buy another in an instant, but I'd immediatly start chopping away at that PonG
Having gone thru all 130+ pages at least twice, I know the issue of 'is this plastic safe?' has been addressed a couple of times and I feel like enough work has been done by @Engineering @TherealVaporblunt to show the PonG plastic is perfectly safe... However, nobody wants to see bits falling off, or cracks from the heat etc etc, so I thought I'd try and cobble together some sort of solution. I absolutely love my PnP to bits, I'd buy another in an instant, but I'd immediatly start chopping away at that PonG
I see what you mean. I just have a strong feeling that we shouldn't have to modify the device to make it more safe to use. A company solution similar to yours, maybe even more improved than that as they have more resources, would be an awesome thing.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I wonder if folks should hold off on the higher temps while using the Pnp until we hear from VaporBlunt regarding the issues with the mouthpiece or pong? I used some reclaim in cotton in the regular bullet on level 3 then I bumped it up to level 4 just for a couple of min only once. I didnt have any problems and I kept the unit vertical. I usually don't go higher than heat level 3 when I use the WT.
I mainly vape with herb, I don't have access to oils. Hopefully we will hear from TRVB on this thread. We should be hearing something about those that have been having battery problems too.
I notice that I have seen TRVB reply on The Baker thread. They are getting close to releasing it. Some FC members have beta units they are testing out.
I mainly vape with herb, I don't have access to oils. Hopefully we will hear from TRVB on this thread. We should be hearing something about those that have been having battery problems too.
I notice that I have seen TRVB reply on The Baker thread. They are getting close to releasing it. Some FC members have beta units they are testing out.
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