Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

He said his shipping address was in canada, I guess I missed that part.

grokit said:

Last I checked, canada was in north america

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Thank you! Thought we got kicked out and I didn't hear about it...

Shiggity said:

I also have a great idea for the FF2 or just a new lid for FF1. Make a metal pic for the FF that is flat with rounded edges. Make a small indentation in the FF lid, in between where the two vapor channels go. ( I think the magnets are there also.) now you would have a pick that would go with the FF and be locked in to the lid by magnets. I would have a small angle on the end of the pic where your nail could grab. The rounded edge could be the same shape as the channels so if you had a paper towel or napkin you could use the tool to clean those channels. The other end could be more pick like for stirring or breaking up material.

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It scares me to think that they will be making a FF2....the FF1 amazes me everytime i power it up it is a new experience. Sad to say i still have not mastered the technique but i am having a ton of fun trying too!!

Thanks for the responses regarding consumption, I know it's not always an easy question to answer.

Sounds like it is only a hog in the sense that I will want to use it a lot. I can live with that


So I just got off the phone with Sarah C. As everyone mentioned, she was great to talk to.

My Firefly ships out today.

Awesome! Our numbers are growing....join us the vapor is always greener...

You guys are too funny! Already talking about the "FF2" and calling the Firefly the FF1.

Anyhoo... just want to share a tiny bit of info... I found that I like holding the FF better with an overhand grip. It justs feels more natural and comfortable to me. And it's stealthier. Left hand, open fist around FF, middle finger on button. I guess if your sessions are very long, it might get too hot to hold this way, but I don't have that problem.

hoyo77 said:

It scares me to think that they will be making a FF2....the FF1 amazes me everytime i power it up it is a new experience. Sad to say i still have not mastered the technique but i am having a ton of fun trying too!!

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They aren't even considering it just yet. I mentioned FF2 to Sarah who laughed pretty heartily at the idea. They seem to be focused on shipping and servicing the FF, and manufacturing enough to meet demand. I'm sure we'll all be ready for the next gen whenever they get around to it.

marduk said:

You guys are too funny! Already talking about the "FF2" and calling the Firefly the FF1.

Anyhoo... just want to share a tiny bit of info... I found that I like holding the FF better with an overhand grip. It justs feels more natural and comfortable to me. And it's stealthier. Left hand, open fist around FF, middle finger on button. I guess if your sessions are very long, it might get too hot to hold this way, but I don't have that problem.

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Great tip. I was thinking about the stealth factor and when in public in eve how to maybe hide the glow. I had thought about turning the unit upside down, but then that may have somehow maybe affected the herbs possibly? Did not try it yet. But I like your idea better :-)

mitchgo61 said:

They aren't even considering it just yet. I mentioned FF2 to Sarah who laughed pretty heartily at the idea. They seem to be focused on shipping and servicing the FF, and manufacturing enough to meet demand. I'm sure we'll all be ready for the next gen whenever they get around to it.

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That's some funny shit...FF2! Most threads come to a loud uproar when a new vape gets version 2'd quickly. you guys are actually asking for it!

So I had a friend over last night and passed the Firefly a bit. When you can explain it to someone, they pick it up fast.
I noticed that if I don't stir after the second hit it can be a bit uneven, and very dark on bottom. I think I may have been riding the button a bit long. I have only been "pre-heating" for about 3-4 seconds before the first hit, and then virtually no preheat after that. I have been using a finger grind, and not packing too tight. Near the end of the bowl I will sometimes double press to get the last bit, or preheat a bit longer.
So; questions:
1. How long are you guys holding on the button during your hit? And how long are you drawing after the release of the button?
2. Does the finger grind seem to be the general preference at this point?
3. The window gets a bit resin-y and I get a few little flakes in the channels sometimes. Is this a product of drawing too fast? Or is a top screen a technique people are still using and getting good vapor results? Advice for this?
4. Average draw speed?
5. How often are you stirring?
6. Cleaning tips?

Overall, still very much satisfied. It is not ideal for ANY more than 2 people given bowl size or battery. But perfect size for a great personal relaxed session without bogging you down. Hits are NEVER hot and the unit almost never gets hot either, just pleasantly warm. So, in general it is ideal for my needs. I like that I can hold it like a pipe in a way, and just stick in pocket when done. Definitely gives a few truly tasty and high quality hits per bowl. I have found average of 5-6 hits per bowl. Battery seems to last around 3 bowl packs, sometimes more if not overly generous on the button.

I plunked down the cash and will be receiving today! I had a chance to fondle a fire engine red one and was bedazzled by it's design. I am really interested to see how this compares to my Pax in terms of flavor & efficiency with material. I have the MFLB and think the PAX is better. Very curious to see if this will top the Pax. I'll throw my 2 shekels in soon enough.

WildChild said:

I bought them here, my Friend:

http://brasspipescreens.com/

(They have steel ones too...not all brass...good service).[n/quote]

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WildChild can you please indicate which size fits the FF better? Which exactly did you buy?
Do you or anyone have any info whether stainless steel versus brass is "healthier" or otherwise better recommended for vaping?

Raskin666 said:

I have only been "pre-heating" for about 3-4 seconds before the first hit, and then virtually no preheat after that. I have been using a finger grind, and not packing too tight. Near the end of the bowl I will sometimes double press to get the last bit, or preheat a bit longer.
So; questions:
1. How long are you guys holding on the button during your hit? And how long are you drawing after the release of the button?
2. Does the finger grind seem to be the general preference at this point?
3. The window gets a bit resin-y and I get a few little flakes in the channels sometimes. Is this a product of drawing too fast? Or is a top screen a technique people are still using and getting good vapor results? Advice for this?
4. Average draw speed?
5. How often are you stirring?
6. Cleaning tips?

Definitely gives a few truly tasty and high quality hits per bowl. I have found average of 5-6 hits per bowl.

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Thanks for this valuable info and asking great questions. Please continue sharing with us your experiences.

I should be receiving my FF tomorrow or Monday, but am still hungry for numbers like the ones you are posting/asking. Wish more members were more forthcoming and share their figures!
My post #1167 was probably missed by Meghan and others:
"Megan or ANYONE who wants to add input:

Can you please share like how many times do you normally end up shaking the mix like within how many draws in one average session lasting how many minutes with a how much filled bowl? (that's 4 how how how hows ) From what I've read here, it might make better sense filling up without loading and just tamping a little bit to bowl level.
How are you actually getting the best results?"

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Fully charged. Finger grinded some Fire OG. Very lightly tamped. Turned on. Held button for 8 seconds exactly how long it took for bowl to fully light up and glow. Held button while I drew for about 5-7 seconds. I didn't have time to engage this more but will later tonight but my initial impressions are:

1. Holy hell that is one big ass cloud
2. My Vishnu that toke was super cool and very, very smooth.
3. It only took 10 seconds!
4. Surprised the flavor was NOT very noticeable but it's way to premature to make any conclusions. I'm betting that if I take my time, etc the flavor should be there.

I have the fire engine red with an external battery and charger bought directly through Sara C at Firefly which was a very very pleasant experience!

Let me know if I can help anybody out with questions. Always happy to pay it forward to a community that has helped me tremendously!

@proghead

1/2" steel ultrafine if you want the same as what comes with the FF. Couldn't tell you if brass is healthier.

I don't believe anyone ignored your post. All of your questions are answered if you go back and review. There are some great tips that got me going...

Hope you get your FF soon. Enjoy!

I couldn't help myself. I made like a Ninja and snuck a couple more tokes.

Guess what? I finger grinded this (meaning it was not to fine and not to chunky) and it not only combusted but I ended up with material in my mouth!

Guess what else? It was clearly MY FAULT. It was due to only one reason: My draw was way to hard and way to fast. When I just slowed down, relaxed and really made a point to enjoy I pulled a perfect smooth and robust cloud!

LMAO: The MFLB battery is the PERFECT tamper for this device!

proghead said:

I should be receiving my FF tomorrow or Monday, but am still hungry for numbers like the ones you are posting/asking. Wish more members were more forthcoming and share their figures!
How are you actually getting the best results?"

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We have pages and pages of folks sharing their approach...but I guess it's a lot to sift through. Anyway:

Medium grind, using fingers. (Finger grind...the craze that's sweeping the forum.)
Fill up the bowl to the rim and tamp lightly.
Keep the device level.
Hit the button for a four count, hit steadily, pulling until you feel the natural resistance of the FF. Let off the button midway through the hit. Exactly where? You'll have to figure it out. It's different for every person and every hit. Keep hitting for several seconds after letting off the button. Don't press the button more than once per hit. Pulsing on and off can cause a heat spike.

How often do I shake? Zero times. I find it makes a mess. I open the lid and stir, quite a few times. I break up the material. Eventually, it's much more finely ground, and much darker, and I have to hold the button longer. The last hit or two are not always extractable via the FF, for me.

If there's one thing we've all learned about the FF is that everyone finds a different technique that works for them. You'll figure it out with practice. Don't get frustrated at first. The learning curve is steep but fairly short. (And then it flattens out and you'll learn teeny new things all the time that enhance performance.)

Volteric said:

LMAO: The MFLB battery is the PERFECT tamper for this device!

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Some pages back someone (Sorry, I've forgotten!) discovered a Chapstick or similar product works perfectly as an FF tamper.

Everyone keeps commenting on the great 'taste' using the FF...but I don't seem to be getting that same experience. Mind you, I'm getting clouds... but I feel like I get to experience the 'taste' more with just a regular bowl. Now with my FF, I get the smoothness and coolness qualities of this amazing vape, but I only get a little hint of 'taste' (more like aroma) at the beginning and nothing really overwhelming. When I really start 'tasting' it is when I'm towards the end of the bowl and I start 'tasting' a rather distinct flavor telling that it is cooked and it's time to change. I apologize for sounding like a newbie, but any comments on this? And no, don't blame the herbs as I am using amazing hi-end Dutch flowers from my local Farmacy. Thanks!

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Everyone keeps commenting on the great 'taste' using the FF...but I don't seem to be getting that same experience. Mind you, I'm getting clouds... but I feel like I get to experience the 'taste' more with just a regular bowl. Now with my FF, I get the smoothness and coolness qualities of this amazing vape, but I only get a little hint of 'taste' (more like aroma) at the beginning and nothing really overwhelming. When I really start 'tasting' it is when I'm towards the end of the bowl and I start 'tasting' a rather distinct flavor telling that it is cooked and it's time to change. I apologize for sounding like a newbie, but any comments on this? And no, don't blame the herbs as I am using amazing hi-end Dutch flowers from my local Farmacy. Thanks!

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I just took another 2 tokes this time with finely grinded Fire OG (Last time I tried finger grinding method). What I noticed was less robust clouds and the same thing you are--underwhelming flavor. :-(

Allow me to add that Fire OG has produced thee best flavor I've ever experienced with the Pax so I befuddled.

Have you guys tried a slightly faster draw? You'll have to play with how fast you draw on it because of the manual temperature control. The terpenes have a vaporizing range from the low 100's to mid 300's, but mostly in the 100-250 range, so perhaps you're vaping them off really fast with the temperatures you're using?

Quetzalcoatl said:

Have you guys tried a slightly faster draw? You'll have to play with how fast you draw on it because of the manual temperature control. The terpenes have a vaporizing range from the low 100's to mid 300's, but mostly in the 100-250 range, so perhaps you're vaping them off really fast with the temperatures you're using?

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I'll give that a whirl but my noob experience my fast draws caused combustion and particles in my mouth. Blah!

Volteric said:

I'll give that a whirl but my noob experience my fast draws caused combustion and particles in my mouth. Blah!

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Alright, yeah. I can see that happening... I don't have a FF but the concept is sound as far as I can tell... Might not have to draw nearly as hard as you think, either. Might just be a little adjustment to airflow that keeps enough outside air coming to keep temps lower and flavors higher.

Slowed down my draw and noticed some good solid vapes. Still not noticing much flavor but my first impression is def positive.

I have a buddy on his way over to try it as well so I'll post more experiential notes from the underground soon.

Quetzalcoatl said:

Alright, yeah. I can see that happening... I don't have a FF but the concept is sound as far as I can tell... Might not have to draw nearly as hard as you think, either. Might just be a little adjustment to airflow that keeps enough outside air coming to keep temps lower and flavors higher.

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As our friend steama mentioned some days ago, there's a neat trick to drawing at just the right speed. Draw steadily until you feel the natural resistance of the Firefly...this takes a little bit of practice but you'll feel a point where if you wanted to draw faster, you'd have to pull *harder*. Draw just south of that point and you'll have the perfect draw speed. It's noticeably faster than you'd expect with a portable vape (faster, for sure, than the MFLB). But it's not fast like a pipe, and you need to keep the draw even and consistent. You won't combust, you won't fling material all over the vapor paths, and you will be able to hold the button down longer since your draw is faster.

You are much more likely to combust with a slow draw than a fast one. When you get the draw right, you won't combust, you'll get hits as big or small as you want, and the flavor will be fantastic at least until the late stages of the session. But it takes some some practice, and I don't think anyone has perfected their personal FF technique in the first two days, or even the first week. Practice, enjoy, practice. Nice work if you can get it.

mitchgo61 said:

We have pages and pages of folks sharing their approach...but I guess it's a lot to sift through. Anyway:

Medium grind, using fingers. (Finger grind...the craze that's sweeping the forum.)
Fill up the bowl to the rim and tamp lightly.
Keep the device level.
Hit the button for a four count, hit steadily, pulling until you feel the natural resistance of the FF. Let off the button midway through the hit. Exactly where? You'll have to figure it out. It's different for every person and every hit. Keep hitting for several seconds after letting off the button. Don't press the button more than once per hit. Pulsing on and off can cause a heat spike.

How often do I shake? Zero times. I find it makes a mess. I open the lid and stir, quite a few times. I break up the material. Eventually, it's much more finely ground, and much darker, and I have to hold the button longer. The last hit or two are not always extractable via the FF, for me.

If there's one thing we've all learned about the FF is that everyone finds a different technique that works for them. You'll figure it out with practice. Don't get frustrated at first. The learning curve is steep but fairly short. (And then it flattens out and you'll learn teeny new things all the time that enhance performance.)



Some pages back someone (Sorry, I've forgotten!) discovered a Chapstick or similar product works perfectly as an FF tamper.

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Thanks for your kind time. I assure you I read each and everyone of the posts of this thread before ordering my silver FF and have continued while waiting delivery. Members have been splendid in sharing valuable techniques and insight but am missing some figures.

What I am requesting is additional specific average values from members for ONE session:
1. Length of time
2. # of draws
3. # stirs or shakes
4. % bowl filled
5. grind level (though this one has been thoroughly discussed)

Can you and others share yours?
About how many times/often do you open lid and stir?
Thanks!

Volteric said:

Fully charged. Finger grinded some Fire OG. Very lightly tamped. Turned on. Held button for 8 seconds exactly how long it took for bowl to fully light up and glow. Held button while I drew for about 5-7 seconds. I didn't have time to engage this more but will later tonight but my initial impressions are:

1. Holy hell that is one big ass cloud
2. My Vishnu that toke was super cool and very, very smooth.
3. It only took 10 seconds!
4. Surprised the flavor was NOT very noticeable but it's way to premature to make any conclusions. I'm betting that if I take my time, etc the flavor should be there.

I have the fire engine red with an external battery and charger bought directly through Sara C at Firefly which was a very very pleasant experience!

Let me know if I can help anybody out with questions. Always happy to pay it forward to a community that has helped me tremendously!

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Pressing the heat button my unit glows bright in about 2 seconds glows strong for about 10 seconds then dims a slight amount for another 20 seconds for a total glow time of 30 seconds. Does your unit really take 8 seconds to glow?
I'm with steama on this one, no need to pre-heat. Use your first hit as a set up for the next one. Why waist the battery energy or the vapor? Pressing the heat button and watch the green light go on and off once then the fun starts.