Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

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Hexi

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This unit looks interesting, watching thread for a possible concentrate compatible model.
 
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mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
As far as adjusting my draw speed/pressure I have found if I pull until the moment I feel resistance then I ease up a little bit and then let that remaining 'soft' resistance gently pull the vapor through the device. This way your are never pulling your draw beyond the resistance the Firefly was designed for. This technique also eliminates slow draw problems.

This tip is GENIUS. Tried it last night. It's subtle, takes some nuance and some practice, but once you can clearly "feel" where the natural resistance starts, you can pull right UP TO that point and it regulates the draw perfectly...this allows you to hit faster, hold the button longer, get bigger, deeper hits *without* charring...just the perfect way to describe it. Of course it takes a little repetition and some intuitive feel for the device, but this is a great tip.

Nice description Steama. Once again I learn a new twist on a device I've been using for a month. Says much about the FF that its simple design allows for a lot of user variation, yielding all kinds of results.

Everyone that owns a Firefly should try comparing vapor production and results from a 'whole bud' to ground bud and decide for themselves. Experimentation can be enlightening. I know what I will be putting in my Firefly and it ain't whole bud. :cool:

I totally agree that this is a user-experimentation thing. I've used all kinds of grind in the FF, from whole small nugs to much finer. They all yield, again, different results. Which is best or taste bests or whatever is completely subjective. For me, one thing is constant...if I'm going to *use* up the material, it eventually has to get ground up. Either before the bowl starts, or during, but if the material doesn't end up much much finer, then obviously you haven't gotten all of the goodies out of it. I've read some folks like to "finish" it in another vape, and as I said like a zillion pages back, I find I can't get those last few hits in the FF and use my V Tower to really finish the material. But no matter how big the pieces are when I start a bowl in the FF, they are surely much closer to "ground" when I'm done.

I can't speak to the firefly, but my use of the vapolution 2 has led me to think that unground bud is more efficient due to it not having lost everything that is in the kief left behind in my grinder. the herbalaire was always touted as being very efficient and tasty and it didn't require grinding either.

For me personally, this more of an indictment of using a grinder than "grinding" in general. As I've said, I hate all the stuff that gets lost in the grinder. You can still use ground material in a vape and not be subject to the exigencies of a grinder. Another reason why God gave us fingers.:D

I can tell you that the last four or five vapes I have tried have got me thinking we don't know shit about vaporization yet as a whole. There are so many variables that haven't been scientifically explored that we are left to describing subjectively. I think we all need to open our minds again to new possibilities and variables in the vaporization process.

That's the real takeway for me. The more I learn, the less I know, somehow. Four or five years and 8+ devices and every week or so I try something different, and what I think I know about vaping technique shifts on me. Half the fun of this whole thing is how variable everything is. Any jerk can hold a flame to a pipe. Vaping...now *that's* art...

 
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lwien

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For me personally, this more of an indictment of using a grinder than "grinding" in general. As I've said, I hate all the stuff that gets lost in the grinder. You can still use ground material in a vape and not be subject to the exigencies of a grinder. Another reason why God gave us fingers.:D

Why do you think that you would lose more trichs in a grinder than on your fingers?
 

mckeen

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Why grind at all? It is a convection unit, just break into smaller pieces as the nug gets dry from vaporizing.

Much better flavour and nothing stays in the grinder, or your fingers.
Just got my new family memeber and I tried this technique and I have to say, It works great for me. Low light outdoor, very fluffy, tricomey bud. 2 hits on one side, flip and a couple on the other. Very tasty indeed. Another great point to make is that it doesn't get your view port as dirty as quickly. I have some other buds that do not preform as well and need a little breakage.
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
So I'm back and wanting to try this new firefly vaporizer so what your thoughts is is a glorified mflb ?

Is the Space Shuttle a glorified paper airplane? Then, yes.

Why do you think that you would lose more trichs in a grinder than on your
I certainly appear to...the difference between all the stuff that sticks to grinder teeth vs. the small amount of dust on a couple fingertips (that I can usually get into the bowl anyway...) is pretty huge. And I have to use my fingers to put it in a grinder anyway...just seems like overall the amount of external surfaces the material touches is much reduced when I just use my fingers, on dry material anyway.

Way way way OT. Apologies.
 
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vorrange

Vapor.wise
Just got my new family memeber and I tried this technique and I have to say, It works great for me. Low light outdoor, very fluffy, tricomey bud. 2 hits on one side, flip and a couple on the other. Very tasty indeed. Another great point to make is that it doesn't get your view port as dirty as quickly. I have some other buds that do not preform as well and need a little breakage.

hehehe, using the words of the great Jimi Hendrix, Are you experienced? :D

I'm happy it works for you, i love to spread the good in the world. :)
 

WildChild

Seeking My Shangri-La
Howdy,

Would a few of the more experienced Firefly users be able to describe how I would get my herbs a dark, dark brown near the end without combusting? Is there a good technique for us old guys who like to milk every last drop? :D

My FF should be here in a couple of days and I am as giddy as a schoolgirl...OK...maybe not quite THAT giddy...but close...:clap:
 

mckeen

Tumrgrwer
hehehe, using the words of the great Jimi Hendrix, Are you experienced? :D

I'm happy it works for you, i love to spread the good in the world. :)
Experience is the light at the end of the tunnel. Third unit is a charm. Firefly Sarah C. has taken this company to a totally new level of customer service. Very happy I am. Oh and "Fuck Combustion".

Jump on it Mark, they may sell out again.
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
For me personally, this more of an indictment of using a grinder than "grinding" in general. As I've said, I hate all the stuff that gets lost in the grinder. You can still use ground material in a vape and not be subject to the exigencies of a grinder. Another reason why God gave us fingers.:D

Dude I love this! I may be asking you to repeat yourself, but what's your preferred method of finger grinding (I can't stop laughing at that term!)? My big problem is, in my head, I think I'm losing stuff when my fingers smell so good after touching the weed.
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
Dude I love this! I may be asking you to repeat yourself, but what's your preferred method of finger grinding (I can't stop laughing at that term!)? My big problem is, in my head, I think I'm losing stuff when my fingers smell so good after touching the weed.

Not to be confused with the boy band FingerBang. :lol:

If it's winter and the air is dry, I usually let a small amount dry on a tray for an hour or less, and I can usually just *crush* it between my index finger and thumb, directly into a bowl. If it's more humid and airing doesn't dry the material, like in summer, I *used* to grind, but now I'll just put a small amount in whatever vape I'm using, take one or two hits, and now I have dry material, and I'm back to step one, index finger and thumb.

And I guess this brings us full circle to the grind vs. whole bud in the FF discussion, so maybe not so OT anymore...:o
 

mckeen

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Yes air bud it is. This bud takes you to a different place though than the days of old. Cookie Dough crossed with Blue Dream. I have a small space under a huge digger pine that this grows almost wild. All I do is stick it in the ground and water. Nothing added. Living in the boonies has it's advantages.
 
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Tweek

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It's definitely a nice feeling grinding up some dry herb with your fingers. I don't always do it, but when I am out in the woods filming some nature, I enjoy sitting down on the creek bed, crunching up a nice nug in my hand and packing a bowl. All part of my therapy.

I also lick my fingers afterward to get any crystals. I'm weird that way, :D
 

dirty_honest

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Looking for a nice travel case for my FF...anyone familiar with vatra cases??? this one looks good for the FF

http://www.vatra.com/product/ddk/#.UtgCm7Smb3g

So other than this suggestion, does anyone else know of any other good cases that could work for the FF? Ideally, there's some sort of case with a wooden exterior and a nice felt interior. The FF is that special of a vape that deserves the royal treatment.
 
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Medical Mark

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Howdy,

Would a few of the more experienced Firefly users be able to describe how I would get my herbs a dark, dark brown near the end without combusting? Is there a good technique for us old guys who like to milk every last drop? :D

My FF should be here in a couple of days and I am as giddy as a schoolgirl...OK...maybe not quite THAT giddy...but close...:clap:


Arctic hey I lived in rankin inlet and Yellowknife and inuvik for 22 years small world

mod note: Edited to fix broken quote tag
 
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Ok ladies and gents

After reading the entire thread on FireFly I finally pulled the trigger on a unit. Now the painful wait starts. First the wait for the confirmation email, then the shipping conf, and finally the painstaking wait for the unit to arrive late next week.

Any suggestions on how I can soothe my nerves and ease the wait? Lol
 

fbrinsley

franklin
ok ok ok i just ripped the box open. first impressions. lovely looking device. mad props on design aesthetics. i have the grey. it's bad ass. ease of use? about as easy as a toaster. if you can handle toast. first load - ground herbs, some of which ended up in my mouth. plenty of flavor no visible vapor. second load - broke up herbs by finger, again, some of which ended up on my toungue, again getting flavour but no visible vapor. i see there are some screens in the box. hmm. i dunno. first impmressions, i'll have an update in an hour.

oh my gawd. finally. monster. that was the toot that told me i got me monies worth ;)
 
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