Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

gnjagrwr

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I purchased an o-light through ebay but its defective! Can i take it to the w9 shop in van nuys and swap it? Just to save time..otherwise it will likely take 2 wks more! Please?
 
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Krazzykid

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I purchased an o-light through ebay but its defective! Can i take it to the w9 shop in van nuys and swap it? Just to save time..otherwise it will likely take 2 wks more! Please?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but who did you purchase it from on Ebay? The reason I ask is because as far as I know there is only one authorized dealer to sell these devices on Ebay? If you didn't purchase it from an authorized dealer then it is NOT warrantied through W9tech.

It would probably be best if you PM'd G and tell him the name of the dealer you purchased it from and ask if you are covered under warranty or not.
If you did happen to purchase it from an un-authorized dealer then you will first have to purchase a warranty from W9tech.

I hope you the best.

Edit: I am sure if you did take it to the shop they will be able to sell you the warranty for it and then swap it out if you have to go that route.

This may be a stupid question but did you click the button 5 times to turn the unit on first? It has a lock feature so it won't go off in your pocket.
 

BigBossFredo

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I've read/skimmed through the past 30 pages or so and I saw mention of this combination but no real definitive answer (at least to me, I may just be slow though):

Is there any special attachments I need to use these carts or the Ophos K.I.S.S. cart with my Ego-T? I understand from reading the manufacturers post on here that this will void my warranty, which I am fine with.

Also, a waxy/taffy consistency concentrate that burns cleanly should work fine with both the KISS and standard carts, correct?

Thank you in advance for your answers, this thread has been a huge help and I cant wait to order my carts.
 
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kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
I've read/skimmed through the past 30 pages or so and I saw mention of this combination but no real definitive answer (at least to me, I may just be slow though):

Is there any special attachments I need to use these carts or the Ophos K.I.S.S. cart with my Ego-T? I understand from reading the manufacturers post on here that this will void my warranty, which I am fine with.

Also, a waxy/taffy consistency concentrate that burns cleanly should work fine with both the KISS and standard carts, correct?

Thank you in advance for your answers, this thread has been a huge help and I cant wait to order my carts.

Maybe someone else will chime in but I think all you would need to get is a 601 to 510 thread adapter and that should do it. Probably a couple of bucks at most?

Yes, clean waxes and taffies work well in both the standard carts and KISS carts, although KISS carts can be a bit more forgiving with dirtier oils and waxes than the standard carts.
 

BigBossFredo

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Maybe someone else will chime in but I think all you would need to get is a 601 to 510 thread adapter and that should do it. Probably a couple of bucks at most?

Yes, clean waxes and taffies work well in both the standard carts and KISS carts, although KISS carts can be a bit more forgiving with dirtier oils and waxes than the standard carts.

I appreciate the timely response man. I try to avoid asking questions that have been asked before but in a thread this huge it can be a bit of a chore to find specific answers.

Thanks again.
 

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Anytime, man. I totally understand how this thread can get a bit overwhelming when looking for specific answers. Good luck with everything!
 
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OF

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I've read/skimmed through the past 30 pages or so and I saw mention of this combination but no real definitive answer (at least to me, I may just be slow though):

Is there any special attachments I need to use these carts or the Ophos K.I.S.S. cart with my Ego-T? I understand from reading the manufacturers post on here that this will void my warranty, which I am fine with.

Also, a waxy/taffy consistency concentrate that burns cleanly should work fine with both the KISS and standard carts, correct?

Thank you in advance for your answers, this thread has been a huge help and I cant wait to order my carts.

http://www.tropicalvapors.com/Adapter-510-Battery-to-601-Cartomizer_p_68.html

OF
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Do you know if All the 1.5ohm carts have the same weight?

My first cart had issue after 1.2 g ,imo it's normal cause one time I thought that there is enough oil into and done really long dry burn (just 0.1 into in fact), so I killed my cart I think (it produces really wispy hits now).

0.4g sit in the dead cartridge (empty one without white cap=7.5, dead cart=7.9) and I can't reclaim more than a tiny dab , that's why I'm asking about carts weight at the beginning of my post....

Thanks
 
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0.4g sit in the dead cartridge (empty one without white cap=7.5, dead cart=7.9) and I can't reclaim more than a tiny dab , that's why I'm asking about carts weight at the beginning of my post....

You 'want it all', and without running the risk of burning it in the process?

Silly question.....everybody wants it all these days or so it seems. The real question is 'will you go to a little trouble to get it all?'.

Here's what to do. First pry or pull the center pin from the connector, it's sits in a rubber bushing and has a small wired attached inside which you can cut or break. I use long nose pliers to grab it (one tip in the hole, one on the side), but I've also pried them out with small screwdrivers and knife blades.

Next pluck the rubber bushing out of the hole, exposing the larger hole in the connector.

Then, working through that hole, push the seal, inner works and all the oil inside out the top onto a dinner plate or something clean and easy to get the concentrate off. I use a bamboo skewer, but a piece of coat hanger wire also works fine. This uses the seal as a wiper to strip everything out of the tube, it comes out oil free. Sometimes the seal is kind of glued in by concentrate, in which case heat the bottom (connecor) some with the lighter, not much, just 'pretty warm' to the touch.

This way you can not only get much of the oil out without undue heating but that .2 'lost' is mostly exposed so you can get most of it as well with a toothpick.

Once you do it once you'll see how easy it really is. It takes less and a minute.

OF
 

Omcron v1

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You 'want it all', and without running the risk of burning it in the process?

Silly question.....everybody wants it all these days or so it seems. The real question is 'will you go to a little trouble to get it all?'.

Here's what to do. First pry or pull the center pin from the connector, it's sits in a rubber bushing and has a small wired attached inside which you can cut or break. I use long nose pliers to grab it (one tip in the hole, one on the side), but I've also pried them out with small screwdrivers and knife blades.

Next pluck the rubber bushing out of the hole, exposing the larger hole in the connector.

Then, working through that hole, push the seal, inner works and all the oil inside out the top onto a dinner plate or something clean and easy to get the concentrate off. I use a bamboo skewer, but a piece of coat hanger wire also works fine. This uses the seal as a wiper to strip everything out of the tube, it comes out oil free. Sometimes the seal is kind of glued in by concentrate, in which case heat the bottom (connecor) some with the lighter, not much, just 'pretty warm' to the touch.

This way you can not only get much of the oil out without undue heating but that .2 'lost' is mostly exposed so you can get most of it as well with a toothpick.

Once you do it once you'll see how easy it really is. It takes less and a minute.

OF
can you make a video so next time i know exactly how to extract i feel like whenever i try to extract i end up just burning the carts with my lighter but out of all 10 carts for my omicron only about 2 have gone well without problems idk what it is...
 
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can you make a video so next time i know exactly how to extract i feel like whenever i try to extract i end up just burning the carts with my lighter but out of all 10 carts for my omicron only about 2 have gone well without problems idk what it is...

I'm sorry, I don't do videos.

I only do photos because of the threats Dreamer made......

If you want to use these guys, stick with 2.4 Ohm carts at 3.7 Volts until you master them. Really control what's going on. Other carts will give more vapor, and can be easier to get vapor from sometimes, but they also can get away from you very fast. And like riding motorcycles, one mistake is generally all you get. Like bikes, learn on the little guy, not the Dresser.

Load only good concentrates, do a foil test if unsure. Weigh the new cart, add no more than .5 grams to start being careful with the preheating of the center section in the instructions. Top up again when you get to .2 or so from new, most guys probably add the other half gram like I do, but stay under .75 from new in all cases, less if the goods are more liquid if you want to avoid leaks.

Never do dry burns, even for a few seconds.

Pay attention to how it's running. If it suddenly seems slow to start and low output check the battery and fill. Cooking it dry is bad karma. I think 3 grams is a reasonable life, some more, some less. Depends on the goods and how you treat it.

Good luck.

OF
 

Omcron v1

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I'm sorry, I don't do videos.

I only do photos because of the threats Dreamer made......

If you want to use these guys, stick with 2.4 Ohm carts at 3.7 Volts until you master them. Really control what's going on. Other carts will give more vapor, and can be easier to get vapor from sometimes, but they also can get away from you very fast. And like riding motorcycles, one mistake is generally all you get. Like bikes, learn on the little guy, not the Dresser.

Load only good concentrates, do a foil test if unsure. Weigh the new cart, add no more than .5 grams to start being careful with the preheating of the center section in the instructions. Top up again when you get to .2 or so from new, most guys probably add the other half gram like I do, but stay under .75 from new in all cases, less if the goods are more liquid if you want to avoid leaks.

Never do dry burns, even for a few seconds.

Pay attention to how it's running. If it suddenly seems slow to start and low output check the battery and fill. Cooking it dry is bad karma. I think 3 grams is a reasonable life, some more, some less. Depends on the goods and how you treat it.

Good luck.

OF
thank you I'm bout to go buy a 2.4 cart off of ebay right now cause I'm all out and get a gram of some fire and give it a shot i also found my old fill tool but noticed that the new carts are different shaped entry for the concentrates than the old fill tool right?
 
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thank you I'm bout to go buy a 2.4 cart off of ebay right now cause I'm all out and get a gram of some fire and give it a shot i also found my old fill tool but noticed that the new carts are different shaped entry for the concentrates than the old fill tool right?

You're welcome. Good luck. Remember to weigh it first and only put half your gram in to start.

Yes, the tool still works. The openings are bigger is all. Be sure to align the openings in the tool with the cart. Also remember to be careful to fully preheat the center, this is where most guys get into trouble I think. They melt the goods down when the center is too cold and the 'just barely melted' concentrate sticks part way down. After that happens it's very hard to get enough heat into it to melt the entire load without wrecking the seals.

Best wishes,

OF
 

Omcron v1

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You're welcome. Good luck. Remember to weigh it first and only put half your gram in to start.

Yes, the tool still works. The openings are bigger is all. Be sure to align the openings in the tool with the cart. Also remember to be careful to fully preheat the center, this is where most guys get into trouble I think. They melt the goods down when the center is too cold and the 'just barely melted' concentrate sticks part way down. After that happens it's very hard to get enough heat into it to melt the entire load without wrecking the seals.

Best wishes,

OF
What I usually do is just put small pieces of crumble or shatter into the holes on the side of the cart then melted it down..(maybe that's how my carts were breaking??) But now that I found my fill tool again
Correct me if my procedure is wrong...
I usually take my concentrates and put it in the freezer to make it easier with my hands to deal with and then I put it into the omicron fill tool which I already make sure the holes are aligned.. Then I take a torch and start spinning it around the middle of the cart then move the torch to the bottom of the cart about 1/3" up from the bottom. Then I start hitting the top of the fill tool but then when I hit the actual concentrates it always just bubbles up and gets clogged in the fill tool or I see smoke riding up which means it burns the oil right? How do I correctly go about that part... And is the reason why I lost all my blue dream crumble because I was just putting it into the holes into if filled then used a lighter on the side? Wow that was a lot of typing sorry for making y'all read it :)
 
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You 'want it all', and without running the risk of burning it in the process?

Silly question.....everybody wants it all these days or so it seems. The real question is 'will you go to a little trouble to get it all?'.

Here's what to do. First pry or pull the center pin from the connector, it's sits in a rubber bushing and has a small wired attached inside which you can cut or break. I use long nose pliers to grab it (one tip in the hole, one on the side), but I've also pried them out with small screwdrivers and knife blades.

Next pluck the rubber bushing out of the hole, exposing the larger hole in the connector.

Then, working through that hole, push the seal, inner works and all the oil inside out the top onto a dinner plate or something clean and easy to get the concentrate off. I use a bamboo skewer, but a piece of coat hanger wire also works fine. This uses the seal as a wiper to strip everything out of the tube, it comes out oil free. Sometimes the seal is kind of glued in by concentrate, in which case heat the bottom (connecor) some with the lighter, not much, just 'pretty warm' to the touch.

This way you can not only get much of the oil out without undue heating but that .2 'lost' is mostly exposed so you can get most of it as well with a toothpick.

Once you do it once you'll see how easy it really is. It takes less and a minute.

OF

thanks for your answer, it helps me (and others menbers), I like how you share your knowledge with us!
 

OF

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What I usually do is just put small pieces of crumble or shatter into the holes on the side of the cart then melted it down..(maybe that's how my carts were breaking??) But now that I found my fill tool again

Then I take a torch and start spinning it around the middle of the cart then move the torch to the bottom of the cart about 1/3" up from the bottom. Then I start hitting the top of the fill tool but then when I hit the actual concentrates it always just bubbles up and gets clogged in the fill tool or I see smoke riding up which means it burns the oil right? How do I correctly go about that part... And is the reason why I lost all my blue dream crumble because I was just putting it into the holes into if filled then used a lighter on the side?

First off, yes I think poking concentrate down the holes expecting it to melt into the reservoir without problem is asking for trouble. This will work if you add tiny bits to a working cart as you go along sometimes. I gave up on the idea myself, the official way works better I think.....even if you're careful.

The bubbling up is a bad sign, probably means poorly purged, it will definitely cause you problems. You need goods that "melt quickly and freely" and flow easily......something you don't have? The foil test is an important tool here I think.

My routine is to use the sticky nature of most concentrates to stick them into the tool (although I use the 'old school' Wilton tip since I get better control with it (thinner walls).

For sure the foaming is going to keep it from settling into the bottom of the tank and melting into the wicks. I'd suggest either getting concentrate that does better on the foil test or trying to purge the remaining solvent from what you've got.

Good luck.

OF
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I'm sorry, I don't do videos.

I only do photos because of the threats Dreamer made......

If you want to use these guys, stick with 2.4 Ohm carts at 3.7 Volts until you master them. Really control what's going on. Other carts will give more vapor, and can be easier to get vapor from sometimes, but they also can get away from you very fast. And like riding motorcycles, one mistake is generally all you get. Like bikes, learn on the little guy, not the Dresser.

Load only good concentrates, do a foil test if unsure. Weigh the new cart, add no more than .5 grams to start being careful with the preheating of the center section in the instructions. Top up again when you get to .2 or so from new, most guys probably add the other half gram like I do, but stay under .75 from new in all cases, less if the goods are more liquid if you want to avoid leaks.

Never do dry burns, even for a few seconds.

Pay attention to how it's running. If it suddenly seems slow to start and low output check the battery and fill. Cooking it dry is bad karma. I think 3 grams is a reasonable life, some more, some less. Depends on the goods and how you treat it.

Good luck.

OF
Of all the GIZMO'S that follow the carts the 2.4 is hands now my favorite cart. I have 10 new ones.
So simple and alway's ready!

The attachments fill a want for sure.
The 2.4 carts fill a need.

MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS need a 2.4 cart to medicate!
 

GR

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Siding with the above!

I still keep a 2.4 next to the bed, mellow, smooth, no coughing, last a long time on one fill of .5g, will refill 2-3 more times. 1.5ers can easily be kick ass rips as well as 5ohm at 7.4v but the trade off for me is longevity, 1.5 and 5 get chucked after initial load and a .3g top off, after that they taste funky from old oil, get clogged easier unless they where nursed ever session, but for stealth big hits on the go the 1.5is my go to cart.

Waiting for the TI KISS cart, hoping this will take the place of the costly 1.5 ohm carts for my usage. I have not met a portable vape that fits all my needs yet. The Cera is great for groups and serious sessions at home or on the go when stealth is less needed. Hoping kiss will give me some stealth with instant hits.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I confess, that although I recommend the 2.4 to all local patients, and even here on the forum, I talk more about 2.4...
The truth is I use more 1.5 carts.
You described it well.. closer 'push'.
I'm a accident waiting to happen.
Use 1.5 carts I never have.
I know nothing.
2.4 carts are my favorite because I'm a cheap tight ass!
The 5.0 carts I like as well.
1.5 I need to try.

 

OF

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I confess, that although I recommend the 2.4 to all local patients, and even here on the forum, I talk more about 2.4...
The truth is I use more 1.5 carts.

I think that's fine once a guy learns how to control the carts. IMO too many guys want the shortcut to bigger clouds and buy way too much grief in the process. And end up with lots of off tasting carts with leaking issues. The best idea is to experiment with the others once you've truly mastered the more sedate 2.4s.....although self restraint is not all that common I guess?

I also think that chain hitting the 2.4s can provide plenty of vapor for most needs, just not all that quickly. But that's not all that popular with some, either.

You ever get those caps stuck inside the cart?

They can't go in very much further (they hit the bridge). You can work a needle down between them and the tube and pry them out easily.......yes, I've screwed it up. Not fatal.

OF
 
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