Any reason why I shouldn't vape all day every day?

PAZ

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I can definitely feel the effect of heavy use after 2 weeks.

However, everyone is different. I have friends who function between than me who go through 2 grams a day.
 
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natural farmer

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I find that as long as im vaping only at night time (after getting all my work done) i dont really build a tolerance. Kind of odd!
My bro has the same exact pattern! A great way to keep your tolerance very low! I can't resist a wake and bake call though… :D
 
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dat_sky_guy

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I actually just created a thread yesterday which addresses your question pretty well I believe. In short, (from my experience) vaping all day will lose it's novelty and excitement, quite possibly leading to an unhealthy relationship with your reward system due to the tolerance and dependence to cannabis that you will most likely develop if you are vaping all throughout the day. On top of the psychological risks of vaping all day, it is also an expensive habit financially and time wise. If you're vaping all day... that's a lot of time spent getting high. Just my 2 cents on the topic but hey, nobody knows you better than yourself.
 
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Enchantre

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Well, sure... if you are vaping "to get high"... however, I vape to relieve pain & anxiety.

the smallest/least effective dose concept is important, imo. Don't overdo the vaping, as tolerance will build. That is, if keeping a low tolerance is important to you.

For me, tolerance means that I can use enough herb to dull the pain, and I am still functional.
 
Well, sure... if you are vaping "to get high"... however, I vape to relieve pain & anxiety.

the smallest/least effective dose concept is important, imo. Don't overdo the vaping, as tolerance will build. That is, if keeping a low tolerance is important to you.

For me, tolerance means that I can use enough herb to dull the pain, and I am still functional.


well, you still vape to get high! you get high to relieve pain & anxiety though ;)

may seem like a minor difference, but pays attention to the fact that there is no clear cut line between a "medical" and a "recreational" user...

i am what most would consider a recreational user, but also use cannabis to cope with anxiety, to stimulate apetite, to help me sleep, to relieve nausea, to help with certain aspects of my chronic inflammatory disease etc... isn't every usage that makes ones life better, somewhat a medical usage?

i just don't like the vibe i get from some medical users (not you enchantre!) where i have the feeling they look down on everybody who does not have a card that declares them a medical user (in my country these cards don't even exist btw, basically everybody here is a criminal, no matter why or how they use cannabis, very very few exceptions)

no offence intended, just wanted to add my perspective :)
 
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dat_sky_guy

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Well, sure... if you are vaping "to get high"... however, I vape to relieve pain & anxiety.

the smallest/least effective dose concept is important, imo. Don't overdo the vaping, as tolerance will build. That is, if keeping a low tolerance is important to you.

For me, tolerance means that I can use enough herb to dull the pain, and I am still functional.
Is it fair to say that you enjoy the recreational effects of cannabis as well as the medical benefits that it provides? If the answer is yes, (which I'm guessing it is) I refer you to my last post. If your relationship with cannabis is in fact purely on a medicinal basis, then you should seriously consider CBD-heavy edibles as a method of all day pain relief, as opposed to inhaling vapor that's high in THC, which can actually cause/worsen anxiety among many users. Again, just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree obviously, it's your body after all.
 

lwien

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IIf your relationship with cannabis is in fact purely on a medicinal basis, then you should seriously consider CBD-heavy edibles as a method of all day pain relief, as opposed to inhaling vapor that's high in THC, which can actually cause/worsen anxiety among many users.

But there are strains available that have such a high CBD to THC ratio that vaping/smoking them will not give you a higher THC ratio than edibles, eh?
 
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Not necessarily. Some medical users use bud that has a very high CBD to THC ratio, and when you combine that ratio with the need to address pain, for some, they don't really get high at all. They don't need to get high to relieve pain.


well, i find that hard to believe because even the strains with high cbd ratios still have enough thc in them to get high (first we would have to define what getting high actually signifies btw) have a look at the cbd-crew projects for reference.

also personally i'm not all convinced cbd is (only) responsible for pain relieve / couchlock / etc, being that it is also a 5-ht1a (serotonin receptor) agonist.

edit: not to mention that the importance of THC regarding the high is overrated (a fact that anybody who has had the chance to compare pure sativas with pure indicas will agree on -> two completely different experiences) a lot of factors at play here, like: other cannbinoids, terpenes, favonoids and surely even completely undiscovered compounds too :)
 
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RUDE BOY

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well, you still vape to get high! you get high to relieve pain & anxiety though ;)

may seem like a minor difference, but pays attention to the fact that there is no clear cut line between a "medical" and a "recreational" user...

I don't believe you have a good grasp of "Medical use". The main drawback to a lot of people is that they get "High" I know a few people who only use regs or dirtweed due to the lower THC higher CDB because they don't want a buzz. Just getting High doesn't help.
 

Dreamerr

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Is it fair to say that you enjoy the recreational effects of cannabis as well as the medical benefits that it provides? If the answer is yes, (which I'm guessing it is) I refer you to my last post. If your relationship with cannabis is in fact purely on a medicinal basis, then you should seriously consider CBD-heavy edibles as a method of all day pain relief, as opposed to inhaling vapor that's high in THC, which can actually cause/worsen anxiety among many users. Again, just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree obviously, it's your body after all.
I don't enjoy getting high at all. I did as a teen but not now. I use all day most of the time and don't get "high" as you call it. I guess I am not perfectly straight by the law but that is another issue. There was a show on TV that showed, just like drunk drivers, three people, a medical user, a weekend user recreational and an occasional user. The medical user needed sooooooooooooooooooooo much to be rendered, I can't drive. The occasional was out on the first joint and the weekend on the second. The medical user after many said she would have never drove normally with the way she felt. Take this as you want but it is what it is. Tolerance my friends, hence why drug addicts need there drug to be "normal" they aren't high at all cause there tolerance is high. Even go back to the drinking, men can hold more before it effects them. Bigger people can hold more before it effects them. What makes you think herb is any different?
 

lwien

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Some of the same things are at play here when using opiates to address pain, I think. There are recreational opiate users that use opiates to get high while there are medical users who use it just to address pain, and for many of those users, they don't get high at all.
 
I don't believe you have a good grasp of "Medical use". The main drawback to a lot of people is that they get "High" I know a few people who only use regs or dirtweed due to the lower THC higher CDB because they don't want a buzz. Just getting High doesn't help.


see my post above, we would have to define getting high first ;)

i also don't want to get a buzz when using the herb most of the time, but i want to notice the effects... same for medical users! a cannabis buzz to me is actually anxiety provoking a lot of times, while "noticing the effects" is the opposite: anxiety relieving :)

you can argue this all day long, in the end you will have to admit that there is no clear cut line that seperates the two concepts.
 
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Dreamerr

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see my post above, we would have to define getting high first ;)

i also don't want to get a buzz when using the herb most of the time, but i want to notice the effects... same for medical users! a cannabis buzz to me is actually anxiety provoking a lot of times, while "noticing the effects" is the opposite: anxiety relieving :)

you can argue this all day long, in the end you will have to admit that there is no clear cut line that separates the two concepts.

In that case almost most people are high all the time. Most people take some type of pharmaceuticals, antidepressants, opiates and many other drugs which all have an effect on the body. So if that is what you mean then we are all high all the time including the president assuming he takes something. It is hard to find people that don't.
 
In that case almost most people are high all the time. Most people take some type of pharmaceuticals, antidepressants, opiates and many other drugs which all have an effect on the body. So if that is what you mean then we are all high all the time including the president assuming he takes something. It is hard to find people that don't.


in the US you mean ;)

i know quite a few people that abstain from taking anything psychoactive on a regular basis, my parents being two very good examples (my mom has not once in the 27 years of my life taken even an aspirin)
 

lwien

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(my mom has not once in the 27 years of my life taken even an aspirin)

That you know of. ;)

Ahhh...............family secrets. I think that if all of a sudden, we all knew the deepest hidden secrets that occurred in our families, taking into account, our aunts, uncles, cousins, etc, we'd all be fucking stoned just from the enormity of it all.

LOTS of skeletons in dem der closets.
 

Dreamerr

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Yes in the USA, but most people take something here at least. High blood pressure and cholesterol is very common. Your mom is lucky but I would say not common. I for one take as little as possible and only take one pharm drug a day for my headaches. Do they get me high according to your post, I think so.
 
Yes in the USA, but most people take something here at least. High blood pressure and cholesterol is very common. Your mom is lucky but I would say not common. I for one take as little as possible and only take one pharm drug a day for my headaches. Do they get me high according to your post, I think so.


yeah and why is high blood pressure and cholesterol very common?

not many countries have a problem with healthy nutrition to the extent that the USA have ;)

again, it may not be common where you live - by no means is it the norm here (we have heaps and heaps of stupid drunks and pharma-zombies too) but it is still common, lot of people here are very conscious about what they put into their bodies, be it food, pharmaceuticals or even simple herbal medicine (and i'm not referring to cannabis in this instance)

i won't argue any further, because if you haven't understood my argument that there is no clear cut distinction between recreational and medical by now, you won't understand it with further discussion. fwiw you are free to believe what ever you think is right (as am i) and we always can agree to disagree :)
 
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RUDE BOY

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Maybe for different ailments like anxiety you may need the effects from high THC ( and I'm not saying I don't love a good buzz) for medical relief, But for my pain relief high CDB with very low THC works best.
Around here(Not a legal MMJ state) every few months someone I know will get some amazing looking sweet buds that will not get you high for trying but it is the best for pain and nausea. I wish I could buy what others think of as useless bud everyday but have to be happy with the flavor of the month.
 

lwien

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(we have heaps and heaps of stupid drunks and pharma-zombies too)

Stupid? Do you think that most of them actually made a dumb ass decision to become addicts, like they wake up one morning and say, "Hey, I think I'm going to become an addict today or an alcoholic today." If they said that, than yes, I'd agree that they're stupid but I doubt very much if most of them have actually done that.
 
Maybe for different ailments like anxiety you may need the effects from high THC ( and I'm not saying I don't love a good buzz) for medical relief, But for my pain relief high CDB with very low THC works best.
Around here(Not a legal MMJ state) every few months someone I know will get some amazing looking sweet buds that will not get you high for trying but it is the best for pain and nausea. I wish I could buy what others think of as useless bud everyday but have to be happy with the flavor of the month.


i feel for you rude boy :)

i too know how it is to be dependent on the black market and its down sides, and it surely is a lot worse when you have such specific requirements/needs.

i'm sure you know this and have your reasons for not doing it, but still i have to mention that growing your own herb results in the most precise control over your medication possible and enables you to get the exact desired effects (by selecting and keeping mothers, not to mention not having to worry abou pesticides etc)


Stupid? Do you think that most of them actually made a dumb ass decision to become addicts, like they wake up one morning and say, "Hey, I think I'm going to become an addict today or an alcoholic today." If they said that, than yes, I'd agree that they're stupid but I doubt very much if most of them have actually done that.


no, but prolonged repeated use of alcohol results in brain damage, stupid may not be a nice word for it, but being hassled by someone like this isn't a nice experience too ;)


and let's not get into the determination / free will debate here... wrong place and nothing's gonna come out of it...
 
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