Aromed 4.0

What kind of trouble no vapor ?

Is the herb dry ?
Did you connect it proper ?
What temp re you using ?
Do you grind ?

The Aromed adjusts the temperature automatic but just look at the little dot in the temp. readout !

And don't pull like a mad man

Let me know !

spikyvape said:

What kind of trouble no vapor ?

Is the herb dry ?
Did you connect it proper ?
What temp re you using ?
Do you grind ?

The Aromed adjusts the temperature automatic but just look at the little dot in the temp. readout !

And don't pull like a mad man

Let me know !

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Thanks, SPIKY
I can't draw slow enough when I use water in the filter. I think the bubbling sound throws me off or something. I have experience with other whips, so it is the filter I'm having trouble with. It's a little dryer without the filter but it works great without water

spentskeeper said:

spikyvape said:

What kind of trouble no vapor ?

Is the herb dry ?
Did you connect it proper ?
What temp re you using ?
Do you grind ?

The Aromed adjusts the temperature automatic but just look at the little dot in the temp. readout !

And don't pull like a mad man

Let me know !

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Thanks, SPIKY
I can't draw slow enough when I use water in the filter. I think the bubbling sound throws me off or something. I have experience with other whips, so it is the filter I'm having trouble with. It's a little dryer without the filter but it works great without water

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i think i need this diffuser attachment http://www.head-nature.com/seite?id=RNsWJdiX&wg=2943

My friend has an Aromed and he loves it, it works great with some dank nug. I have had the wonderful opportunity of using it and every time I have been very impressed.

not sure said:

The Aromed is great. I got mine about 45 days ago. The only complaint is the glass on glass sticking. It gets in there so good that when I pull it apart it chips a bit.

Otherwise I like mine a lot.

Its nice to know I am NOT getting little metal particles inhaled with my hit.

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Just oil it once in a while with a napkin dipped in cooking oil. It will keep it from having friction.

Just a quick review... It is a GREAT machine, really effective...

Cons:
- Expensive (around 500$)
- The glass parts are easily breakable and quite expensive
- Bubbles make some unwanted noise that make the use impossible if you're trying to vaporize sneakily, as well as a little odor

That's really all I could find that is negative about it, it would be too long to enumerate the pros, this vaporizer is my favorite so far (only used the MFLB...) and I believe is the healthiest. Peace!

Hello, I'm a seasoned vapist, had the arizer extreme, herborizer sphere XL, hit my neighbor's herbo tube regurlarly, but own my own Aromed. All I can say is the taste is incredible! So clean, pure, not an iron-like aftertaste like the herborizer has. My only problem is securing the light to the bowl 100% of the time. I can usually get a good seal when I'm ripping it solo, but when I'm hitting it with friends its hard to get it working for them, could be that theyre not breathing slow and steady enough.

Anyways, my trick is to start the unit at 320 degrees, get at least 10 solid rips (ripping slow & steady), then turn up the temp by 10 degrees, repeat. You can honestly get like 30 great rips if you start low and build up to higher temps. Hands down the most efficient vape out there! I personally could do without the silicone tube (it's inert but I'd rather not have the aftertaste), so I'm thinking about modding it to fit the bowl on an herbo tube, fill to the brim with ice (no water), and get the best of both worlds! Temp control and extreme water cooling. I'm surprised more people haven't reviewed this vape it's really nice.

One last thing, don't let the water line touch the downstem! You don't actually want to be bubbling through the water, the water is there simply to catch dust and cool down slightly. Bubbling through water will require more effort, and heat the herbs too quickly (less rips). Especially with kiif/hash, you want no bubbling, as such a draw might pull those crystals straight through to the water thus waste it!

Great review, bsaur, but "Hands down the most efficient vape out there!" ? Maybe you need to define efficiency for us because if by efficiency, you mean getting high from the least amount of bud, I would challenge you on your assumption there, even though you stated it as fact.

bsaur said:

Bubbling through water will require more effort, and heat the herbs too quickly (less rips). Especially with kiif/hash, you want no bubbling, as such a draw might pull those crystals straight through to the water thus waste it!

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The water will actually require you to work less(unless your lungs are extremely weak) for more gain because it is heavier than air yet fluid and as you inhale it will pull the air through the herb for you and give a thicker amount of vapor for a small amount of lung power. The more water you use the slower you want to inhale or you would bring water into the silicone tube. It also helps keep your breathing consistent. Just add at least some water to the middle of the water holder. Add more once you get the hang of it.

Just inhale slow, depending on how much water you use, and when done take in a big rush of air without the tube to rush the vapor deep into the lungs.

Some flavor will be lose so you may want to only do this method when you get into the 380f and up temperatures.



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Titanium Screen-60 wire
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stickstones said:

Hey Wat,

Do you own the Aromed or have you just used it? If you own it, does it make its way into your lineup often (you gotta nice list of vapes)? It was one of the first vapes I considered buying and have always wnated to try it.

(sorry for the derail...feel free to answer this in the Aromed thread...I just noticed your signature and wanted to ask.)

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Ah Sticks, my AroMed indeed. I do own it, and have done so for maybe 3 years although I did get it second hand. I have to be honest and say that I don't actually use it all that much though. It did used to live in my office for use whilst working, and get used more often, but its really too much of a creeper for that (as well as a big bowl) and it was easy to get too vaped unwittingly. Now it is actually my bedside vape, whilst I definitely do most of my vaping elsewhere in the house. Im normally pretty high by the time I go to bed, but it might get turned on if I start watching a film in bed, or sometimes in the morning at the weekend before getting up if the days agenda allows.

Its not that its not a good vape (I actually think it is), but for me I think its just not quite sinful enough and doesnt let me know Im vaping- its more about the final destination than the journey getting there with this one. I see it as more a medical device- not because of the way it looks (which is fearfully medical looking) or anything high tech, but more because of this very gentle controlled way in which it delivers.

I suspect that there are a maybe lot of potential MMJ users who are not comfortable at all with the sensation of breathing in vapour. In fact unless youre a reformed smoker or want to toke, I think to a lot of newcomers a typical lungful (from an ssv for example) can seem much like breathing some kind of pollution. Just because of the throat hit and lung sensation really; to vape heads and smokers its an enjoyable bite or hit, but I think to others it can actually be a slight discomfort almost (an analogy might be dealing with the alcohol burn from spirits- enjoyed by a heavy drinker, but I hate it (I make an exception for single malts )). I think that this is a long way from the pure clean air that many people have been used to breathing their whole life, and is enough to put anti smoker mind types off the vaping experience (so I have found with my father). However with the AroMed you really dont feel this as much as with other vapes.

Its tempting to think that the Aromed isnt working at first. However, you are certainly medicated after your session, and if you examine the avb you can see clearly that it is done (and very evenly, albeit with stirring). You can generate clouds with it, but to do so you need to take at least one primer hit and a whole slow lungful at that. Then if you take another similar long draw in quick succession you can get a more familiar big cloudy hit. But this vape can get you where you need to be without this.

Another point that I will make is that the whip tubing on the AroMed has stayed clean so very much longer than any other vape tubing. I cant confidently guess why? Obviously theres less particulates due to the water filtration, but also I think the gentle and controlled heating/vapour production also minimises condensate some how.

I do remember reading some arguing a while back, probably in this thread, about the effectiveness of the herb bowl and light/heater connection. IMO this is certainly one of the weaker aspects of this vape. It relies pretty solely upon the tension provided by the positioning of the gooseneck to maintain a good seal between the chamber and heater, and to be honest it could be better. I did communicate with Frank Fuchs (the main man) about this issue- I had read about a snug dovetail join between the two and positive click when mated. This wasnt the case with mine and so I queried whether the plastic part of the dovetail could have gotten worn away through use. Mr Fuchs didnt seem to think so and offered some guidance on positioning the gooseneck to improve the seal. Its helped somewhat, but theres still room for improvement- I can certainly get a better seal still by adding just a little bit of pressure by hand. I do wonder what effect this has on the temp of the heated airstream inside, but based on discussions with Mr Fuchs and my own comparative experiments I dont think its that significant an effect. But I dont know for sure- would like to see measurements. I can not understand why they did not elect to employ an air tight ground glass joint between the two though. It would be a significant improvement.

Speaking of glass, I will add in that the glassware with it is made by Magic Glass in Germany, which is great glass, but damned expensive for what you get. And as I found out to my cost, the chillum style herb holder is easily breakable.

I dont think that this vape will ever be that popular amongst experienced or recreational vapers generally were looking to enjoy the vaping process and the sensation of inhaling and exhaling, and also somewhat to enjoy the aesthetics of our vape- an area where the AroMed completely fails. Given the other vapes I have in my arsenal I doubt I would replace this one should it break, at least certainly not at full retail price. But it is effective nevertheless and certainly more than just a low temp vape, and I would recommend it to a medical user who is less comfortable with the concept of breathing dirty adulterated air.

So they are some of my very rambling thoughts on it. Ill probably add some more

Thanks Wat. I guess I'll always want to try that vape since it was one of my first considerations and I am now about eight vapes down the road. My current rotation has been in effect for a while...MFLB, PD and the SSV (now the Cloud). Since you have all these and the Aromed, I wondered if you ever used it. Ive got about four or five vapes I never use any more, even though I don't get rid of them, and tend to think the Aromed would end up like those given what you and I already have in our possession. Good to know it still has a place for you. I just got the MFLB PA and this will now make that vape my hitter as I nod off in bed.

Hello, Ive never used a vaporizor before. Ive read most of this thread until the bickering got
so bad I couldn't take it anymore. Im considering buying the Aromed 4.0 vaporizer. I will be using
it for very occasional use, maybe 40 times/year. I want to get the healthiest vaporizer on the market,
that will be very easy on my lungs. I suffer from a chronic asthmatic cough that can be triggered by several
things including smoking. Its a lifethreatning cough and is very scary. Im bascially torn between this one
and the Volcano. Im leaning toward the Aromed though.

My questions are -->
1. Is this best vaporizer on the market for keeping my lungs safe?
2. Does this vaporizor cause coughing when used properly?

Note:
Since I don't smoke often, I don't care if the thing is efficent with respect to quantity consumed.
I also don't care about price of the unit. I don't care about stealth since im a grown up and
have nothing to hide. My state has a medical law that makes obtaining product very easy, so im not
worried about wasting product. Since I don't smoke often, im not worried about getting super buzzed,
thats pretty much guareented as my tolerance is low.

If you dig through this thread you will see much debate about the Aromed, some praising it and some criticizing it. Halogen-bulb based vaporizers reportedly have a tendency to have unstable heat retention - that is, if you inhale too quickly, it will drop well below vaporization temperature, and you will get nothing.

I'd suggest broadening your search from just the two models you listed. While saving money might mot be a big priority right now, there's still no point in throwing it away on a needlessly expensive vape. If you're really looking for a medicinal vape then the Volcano's aluminum-block based heating element might scare you away, and I guess the Aromed has some metal/electric components exposed to the airpath as well.

So for keeping your lungs 100% safe, and to keep the vapor as gentle as possible, a vape like the Vriptech Heat wand or the vapocane with retained heat method might be best. Both have 100% glass airpaths and are meant to be used through a waterpipe/bong, which greatly reduces the irritating effect of the vapor on your lungs. Vapes on the horizon with similar qualities are the Vape Exhale Cloud and the Cube, although the production of the latter will be very small and relatively expensive.

Just do you research before you buy. This forum is undoubtedly the best source for information about any given model so you're already 90% there.

@charliedontsurf

Thanks...Ill read about the models you suggest when I get some free time.

my aromed should be here by friday or saturday. ill be happy to answer any questions once i have it. so excited

Heated discussion but I need real help!

I just bought an Aromed 4.0 this week. I'm having a similar issue where I cannot get the heating element and bowl/stem to snap/click/interlock together. I can only get them to rest on top of one another. I have stared at this thing all day and partially disassembled it, and there is no way that the two pieces SNAP together to form any kind of seal.

Am I doing something wrong? Are the pieces messed up? I feel like for the price this shouldn't be an issue. Someone please help!

I've seen the video on page 4 where they seem to snap together, almost magnetically. And the instructions and most people on the forum seem to think they snap together.

Hi Bobby,
I've maybe said somewhere in this thread, but I had this issue and emailed Aromed about it. I don't think it's actually meant to 'click' together that positively, as least not as much as I was expecting, so I was lead to believe.

Here's the photo I was sent showing the hand positions that were different to what I had been using- this actually worked much better and gives a much firmer seal with more weight on the gooseneck. If you've just bought it new this picture might be in the instructions though (mine came without any).

And be careful if you're poking around, apparently. The little sensor poking out is sensitive to disturbance and calibrated for it's set position.

Frank Fuchs of AroMed said:

I have attached a foto to show how you can provide a good setting of the heater grip. Hold the grip tight to the herbholder and bend back the gooseneck.

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Hope this helps.

yeah i was just having the same issue with mine but i started to get the hang of it. i too was convinced that it could absolutely not snap into place as expected, but sure enough, there is a way to make it happen, and it is pretty clear immediately when you get it right.

it does have to do with the shape of the neck (my friends described it as a question mark shape.) its also not a straight up and down snapping into place. you stick the light in so that the neck is trying to push the light outward, like off the back end of the unit, away from the base of the neck. i really dont feel like taking pictures at the moment but if youre still not clear let me know and id be happy to.

i agree its pretty disappointing that this is even an issue with a vape that costs almost 500 bucks, but as ive thought about this pretty much the entire time ive used it so far, ive come to the decision that im pretty sure there needs to be some wiggle room for the bulb or it would break all the time


also, from past experience, i generally expect to hate any new vape for as long as two weeks before i start to love it. this one pissed me off on day one. its day three and ive grown quite fond of it already. i definitely think its a more personal vape, the kind you need to get familiar with, but the more i use it the more i like it. so far i would not say the connection issue should be enough to discourage people from buying an aromed. its pretty sweet.

A very nice FC member loaned me his Aromed 4.0 and I’ve had it for the last week. It’s getting sent back tomorrow so I thought I would share my thoughts.

The first thing that struck me was the size. All of the pics I’ve seen make the thing look huge, but the unit is actually not too big – except when the ‘lamp’ neck is extended. The water pieces are well made, function well and are very small - though I do think it would have been better with a diffused downstem as it is a bit ‘gluggy’ to hit. It all comes in a very handy carry case which is great for storage.

Functionally it is very simple to use. Attach water parts and bowl and then switch on the unit which activates the heat lamp. Place the lamp head into the herb bowl and let heat up for a few minutes before hitting. I found that the stock tubing that came with it had a too large inner diameter which made for a very high air-flow. My results were improved quite a lot by switching to narrower tubing. This created more restriction on the airflow and increased visible vapour production. I found the hits to be very ‘mild’ in the sense that you can’t really milk up the glass and exhale is only very light vapour, even with the narrower tubing. Slowing down the inhale to a snails pace also helps for a ‘fuller’ lungful but can become tedious.

The herb load lasted a very long time. Loading with about .3 lasted me a good hour hitting about every 2-3 minutes. However, cranking the machine to it’s top temp (235c) the abv was still only a light tan after vapour stopped being produced. Loading a few MZ stems I was able to get 2-3 decent hits still.

Overall this is a well made unit. It isn’t the prettiest but it’s sturdy – I believe the unit I’m using is a good few years old and functions great. Although this unit isn’t satisfying for me, due to the weaker vapour production, I can definitely see a place in the current market for this vape. In looks and function IMO this unit feels like a medical device. If you are not a smoker but need the medical properties of mj this machine may be ideal. Throat irritation is the lowest I’ve experienced from a vaporizer and function is extremely straight forward. Due to the relatively low temps this vape hits it may not be the best medically for sleep and heavy pain related ailments imo.

J.R.R.Tokin' said:

The herb load lasted a very long time. Loading with about .3 lasted me a good hour hitting about every 2-3 minutes. However, cranking the machine to it’s top temp (235c) the abv was still only a light tan after vapour stopped being produced. Loading a few MZ stems I was able to get 2-3 decent hits still.

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Sounds like you needed a new bulb or the one you had was a cheap version which doesn't give good heat output because at that temperature your herb shouldn't be light tan and you shouldn't still be able to get vapor from the MZ as the MZ only heats to around 185c.

Frank told me the best bulbs to use are the stock version which are manufactured by OSRAM SYLVANIA.
Also, did you look a the blinking light to see if you are inhaling at a rate that is sufficient not to cool off the bowl?.

MIstake

luchiano said:

Sounds like you needed a new bulb or the one you had was a cheap version which doesn't give good heat output because at that temperature your herb shouldn't be light tan and you shouldn't still be able to get vapor from the MZ as the MZ only heats to around 185c.

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I think my MZ is probably in the 200c range (comparing the ABV to my EQ at 200c). I probably could have extracted to a darker abv shade but the hits were sooo thin by that point it wasn't satisfying and probably would have taken another half hour to get anywhere near a dark brown abv.

Hello all. New to the FC family, but have read through many of the threads, including this one. As a happy owner of one of these devices, I don't believe I saw it specifically mentioned that there is, in my experience, a very limited amount of product used in order to achieve the most efficient, and even results. Some people have mentioned combustion, and I found that to be a potentiality when larger amounts are packed. This seems due to an uneven distribution of heat when the light source is closer to the top layer of material. If you only pack approx. a .1g amount of fine-ground material (just enough to thinly cover the screen), you will not only prevent any potential of combustion, but also create the most efficient and prevalent vapor clouds I have achieved with the unit. What I mean by this is that you will actually produce more total visible, blue-tinged vapor with .1g packed, than you will with .2 or even .3, I would venture to say. It seems the larger quantities end up resulting in a filtered effect that recollects the vapor initially emitted at the layer closest to the light. Packing a wafer-thin layer also, in many instances, precludes the need to stir the bowl. The device works famously when I use it in this manner! I can even ramp it up to the ~420 (hehe) range sometimes, and no burning or undue harsh smoke. It is akin, even at those temperatures, to the smoothness and richness of my Volcano at a temperature no higher than 6.5 (which I rarely ever breach on the Volcano.)

Anyways, hope everybody else is getting as much genuine and sincere enjoyment out of their Aromed 4.0 as me! Can't wait for the 5.0!

p.s. - anyone else have experience with the porous glass screen for waxes? I am intrigued to try it, I imagine it tastes pristine (which is a little more than I can say for wax on the big steel wool 'cano pad, which I have used in the Aromed to less thrilling results...)

AroMed 4.0 Vaporizer w/ Sovereignty Glass Four Arm Mini Bubbler & SG Showerhead AC:

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knickertoker said:

AroMed 4.0 Vaporizer w/ Sovereignty Glass Four Arm Mini Bubbler & SG Showerhead AC:

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Aha! I saw this video earlier today, searching for most recent "vaporizer" uploads on youtube. Cheers! You inspired me to use my Aromed in new and very enjoyable ways today. Sidenote, I just discovered that the Magic Glass slide fits inside a standard GonG female stem perfectly. I am now using mine directly in my bong to great success. I owe this revelation to your video after seeing it earlier today. How very funny...

The hits are sooo tasty. This is kinda like a VHW now; albeit, a device I have yet to try.