Discontinued Thermovape Cera

This is not the time of year I don't expect fast turn around from any company or mail service. I sent my 3 cores in for rebuilds last week and I will not be holding my breath for a quick return but I have a second Cera and a 4th EO core to keep me going and warm at night so it's easy for me to have patience.

420time said:

mannnnnnnn im still waiting for my repair to come backkk. itll be the second week since they received it on monday.

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Unfortunately it seems like they are really busy at the moment. They got my cera right before thanksgiving and im still waiting. Zeki said at the end of the week at the latest but friday came and went without an email .

It will be worth the wait! I am so glad I picked up a Cera! I will be buying a "Cera Lite", or whatever they call it, as soon as they are available. I will also be adding extra EO carts to my collection so I can change medicine at the drop of a hat!(2 is not enough!) I can't say enough about TET, I will continue to support them as long as they're around.

TET is top notch in my books. Zeki especially is really helpful and takes good care of you. I started off with the Thermovape T1 and added an AVA cart for my e-cig juice fix. That broke down on me and I had it converted to a DART.
I purchased a Cera of a member of the board with both LL and EO carts and this vape is such a great improvement on the previous model
I still have the T1 and use it with the DART for on the go fun but I go to the Cera for at home or partying with friends when discretion isn't too big of a deal.
I too am looking forward to a Cera light body, or even an adapter like the one made for the T1 and rev/DART/AVA cart.

Roth said:

Greetings all, glad I found FC! I read all 244 pages of this thread...whew!

I was in the market for a vaporizer, and thanks to the info I've read here at FC, I went with a Cera EO and LL. I'm not new to vaporizers, but it's been a long time since I've used one regularly. I had a Vapor Brothers ~10 years ago, so I'm at least somewhat familiar with convection style vapes/breath techniques/etc.

I've recently acquired a source for waxes and shatters, and was looking for a portable tool to enjoy them. That was when my search led me to this thread. I was immediately impressed with the apparent quality of the materials and construction of the Cera. The fact that I could swap carts for concentrates or flowers sold me.

Well, yesterday my Cera finally arrived! Unfortunately I only had an hour or so to enjoy it before I had to head out. As others have said, the feeling of quality when it's in your hands in palpable. It was actually smaller then I had thought from looking at pictures online, a very good thing!

To start out, I pulled out the EO core and proceeded to load ~.4g of some Chocolope wax into it. I took a long time to do it, going slowly (maybe 30 minutes?). I slowly pulsed the power to melt the wax into the core. With this technique being new to me, I didn't want to prematurely vaporize any wax, nor melt it too quick that it didn't absorb into the ceramic. Now that I have a better feel for it, I know it will be MUCH quicker to load next time.

With the EO core loaded, there was only one thing to do...hit that thing like there's no tomorrow! This is my first time every experiencing concentrates, so I wasn't exactly sure what to expect. I had a tasty flavor in my mouth as I inhaled, but found it difficult to gauge how much I was actually inhaling. When I finally exhale, a massive cloud erupts from my mouth...followed quickly by a lung seizing cough attack of epic proportions! Needless to say, the EO quickly taught me to respect the power that now resides in my hands! I take a couple more smaller hits before tapping out and putting it down.

At the end of the night I decided to try out a small LL bowl just to test it. I definitely had some decent vapor production, but I know that will increase as the Cera and I become more intimate with each other. I think I'll try the LL bowl first tonight once I'm off work, to properly gauge it from a sober start.

I picked up 2 Cigar Caddy after seeing @BLAZING OG 's pictures. That case is the perfect size to hold the Cera, a spare battery, and a NoGoo container with more wax. Thinking about picking up a slightly larger case for when I want to travel with the other core and a few more accessories.

Overall, extremely pleased with the purchase so far. Will report back with more impressions after a week or two.

Thanks again to everyone at FC, the knowledge you all provide has been extremely helpful.

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Well, now that I've had a few weeks to enjoy the Cera, I thought I'd post back with some more thoughts.

EO Core:

Still in love with this thing, that's for sure. I've just recently acquired a source for concentrates, so I'm new to this world but loving it. The core is wonderful, I'm able to load a decent amount in and have enough to enjoy for quite a while. I'm still slowly learning to read the Cera better and better (ie knowing when to reload and such). Can't really think of a negative thing to say about the EO core really.


LL Core:

The LL core is definitely more of a mixed bag for me. I do enjoy bowls from the LL core, and am able to produce some decent clouds and obtain a nice roast on the ABV. However, there are some serious draw backs from my view.

First, this thing gets waaaaay to hot. Not just warm, but too hot to touch. By the time I'm finishing a bowl, the mouthpiece is too hot to hit anymore. Tried a bunch of tricks, like not putting the silicone slip on til halfway through the bowl, taking the silicone tip off in between hits and trying to absorb some of the heat into my body, etc. It would help, but it was still just too much. The only solution for me is either some type of mouthpiece mod, or hooking it up to a water pipe. Once I started hitting the LL core through a water pipe, heat was no longer an issue for me. To be fair, I was using a switch mod to keep the LL core on the whole time (but I was trying to finish the bowl quickly, not having a lot of down time).

Which brings me to the my second (minor) gripe with the LL core, the switch. I understand TET decided against the latching switch for whatever reason (don't want to bring up that horse again!), and I'm ok with that. I just did a simple furniture cap switch mod, easy, cheap, and done. The EO core is fine, probably better, with a momentary switch. However, the LL core really does need the latching switch. But this leads to more heat....trade offs


Overall:

Still very pleased with my purchase and would recommend the Cera EO for anyone looking for a portable (but maybe not too stealthy) way to consume concentrates. I have a harder time recommending the LL core by itself though. I think if someone is already buying a Cera EO, the LL core for $100 more is definitely worth picking up. But if you don't plan on using the Cera with an EO core, it's a little harder to recommend.

The LL core is very nice assuming two caveats. First, you are using a mouthpiece mod or using a water pipe with the Cera. Second, you have some type of switch mod. I do enjoy the LL with these additions, just though it should be mentioned.

Oh, and I love the design of the ceramic mouthpiece. Without any screens, I've never gotten anything in my mouth but tasty vapor.




One question, inside of the EO Core, is there any space in between the ceramic rings and the stainless steel of the inside of the core? Or are the ceramic rings nearly flush against the inside wall? Just trying to ascertain if once the wax drops below the top plate, if it's all in the ceramic rings below, or if there is also a sort of hold over space that will get wicked up into the rings once some is vaporized.

Thanks!

Roth said:

One question, inside of the EO Core, is there any space in between the ceramic rings and the stainless steel of the inside of the core? Or are the ceramic rings nearly flush against the inside wall?

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I agree with you in your review, LL Cera is not a good idea for high volume use....definitely a sole user rather than party piece. It is, I think, top of the heap taste wise but it's fiddly to do right. A specialist's tool, not a workhorse?

Yes, there's a fair size gap between the ceramic cores and the walls, much wider on the top half (the socket covers it for the first core and a half or so IIRC). There's also some 'storage' area below that, but that's getting close to the vents (leaks). This is why storing a leaking (overfilled) core on it's side until you vape off the excess works so well. You store the excess in the gap between the cores and the wall.

This is not a good place to store oils if you want maximum performance since it slows the outer parts of the core from getting to working temperature while not making any vapor in return. It 'slows the action'.

OF

Hi,
i've just got my cera, i was wondering if anybody tried to smoke with The Clear on it…. i have 2g of the clear and i don't know how to put inside since is a bit too dense, and i wanna refill all the cartridge since it's the first time….
any ideas?

memmo said:

Hi,
i've just got my cera, i was wondering if anybody tried to smoke with The Clear on it…. i have 2g of the clear and i don't know how to put inside since is a bit too dense, and i wanna refill all the cartridge since it's the first time….
any ideas?

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Cera EO cart correct? Just place your concentrate on the top wafer (CAREFULLY) and then activate the power so that it melts in. Do you have a scale? Weigh the cart empty and then add in about .4 or so to give it some "buffer" and you should be able to add a bit more and be good. The Clear should be a perfect concentrate for your Cera.

thanks for the reply, i meant since the clear is so dense, should i warm up a bit? yes we're talking abt eo cart….
u put almost gram on it? how long it last?
thank u

whats clear? I looked it up and all it says is a kind of anabolic steroid. in which case i dont think you vaporize it, better stick in your ass,

with a syringe.

the clear is not a steroid GENIUS, it's a new kind of concentrate, made without water/ice, butane, alcohol,co2… they make it just with heat and pressure, make a research and u'll see and if u haven't tried it yet then u definitely should try it, it's more than 80% thc and dabbing it is amazing, but i wanted to try in the cera… check on harbor side and google it, u'll find it….


Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

http://www.medicaljane.com/review/the-clear-by-clear-concentrates/

really i did google it .. google uas been sucking lately; look up a word and its all the same source listing after listing...
..and I tried the vaporpedia too, somebody needs to update that thing.
anyway thanks for the link..

I cant imagine what could possibly be next ....? btw it said in the article it was fine for vaporizing..but What do you mean by dense? It seems to be runny stuff, shouldnt be a prob, I use semi solid stuff all the time in my cera.

memmo said:

the clear is not a steroid GENIUS, it's a new kind of concentrate, made without water/ice, butane, alcohol,co2… they make it just with heat and pressure, make a research and u'll see and if u haven't tried it yet then u definitely should try it, it's more than 80% thc and dabbing it is amazing, but i wanted to try in the cera… check on harbor side and google it, u'll find it….


Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

http://www.medicaljane.com/review/the-clear-by-clear-concentrates/

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Well, in his defense, if you google "The Clear" all that shows up is steroid stuff... Not everyone knows about the brands of concentrates.

Anyways, @OF has good info on how much to load. You don't really need to melt it in with a lighter I don't think, holding the heat will warm it up and it will flow through. Probably pretty easily with some Clear.

memmo said:

Hi,
i've just got my cera, i was wondering if anybody tried to smoke with The Clear on it…. i have 2g of the clear and i don't know how to put inside since is a bit too dense, and i wanna refill all the cartridge since it's the first time….
any ideas?

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Clear concentrates work wonderfully in the Cera. To load, scoop some up with the end of a dabber, hold the dabber over the Cera EO cart, and gently heat the dabber above the concentrate with a torch/lighter. As the heat moves down the dabber, the Clear will melt and fall cleanly off onto the ceramic wafer of the Cera EO cart. After that, the Cera should be able to easily absorb your concentrate with just a little bit of heat.

OF said:

I agree with you in your review, LL Cera is not a good idea for high volume use....definitely a sole user rather than party piece. It is, I think, top of the heap taste wise but it's fiddly to do right. A specialist's tool, not a workhorse?

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The loose leaf Cera's learning curve is one of the most challenging that I can think of among vapes, not because it's hard to make it work but because it unavoidably requires practice to make good use of it unmodded and without a water pipe, without running into the heat buildup. And there's little more frustrating than a new toy becoming too hot to use.

So I agree with your classification of it as a specialists tool, though I'd like to add that it's a damn fine one! While it's hard to recommend to an average user without reservation, I know that here of all places there are surely some specialists around who could overcome the curve and find the qualities that are as of yet unparalleled in today's market.

For those that do have one and are finding it hard to make use of, I think a small water tool like the PNWT would be a great simple alternative to modding, to make it more usable when out and about.

Quetzalcoatl said:

Well, in his defense, if you google "The Clear" all that shows up is steroid stuff... Not everyone knows about the brands of concentrates.

Anyways, @OF has good info on how much to load. You don't really need to melt it in with a lighter I don't think, holding the heat will warm it up and it will flow through. Probably pretty easily with some Clear.

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yeah i agree, u should have google the clear concentrate to find good info, anyway at least now u know, i will try later, the clear looks more liquid in pics but it's kind of dense oil, so i think a bit of warm up in a dubber can be useful to let it go inside the eo cart…
so mr OF how much do u put inside? really half gram?

I want to know how much extract people are getting in the EO carts also? I can barely fit .45. To be honest, I believe its overfilled at that weight. I know all extracts will vary slightly.

nopartofme said:

So I agree with your classification of it as a specialists tool, though I'd like to add that it's a damn fine one!

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Very well put. It is indeed a 'damn fine tool'. A 'no compromise' type assault on the ultimate vape goal. Not all will appreciate it, but when it comes to roasting a load in a pristine way, Cera is the benchmark I think.

jpdnkstr said:

I want to know how much extract people are getting in the EO carts also? I can barely fit .45. To be honest, I believe its overfilled at that weight. I know all extracts will vary slightly.

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I think half a gram is a good place to start. After running a load some, giving the oil a chance to be fully absorbed you can build a base of about .2. This usually lets me increase the total load a bit without flooding or getting the action 'too slow'.

I agree, concentrates vary a LOT. Funny thing is some of the thicker ones (at room temperature) are the ones most prone to leaking?

IMO the best idea is to learn to 'read the level' in terms of plate appearance and vapor delivery. With experience comes the skill?

OF

so OF how u put the clear in the EO cart? should i warm a bit? and half gram how long it last?

memmo said:

so OF how u put the clear in the EO cart? should i warm a bit? and half gram how long it last?

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I already explained a few posts back how to load Clear. Give it another read. I have plenty of experience running Clear through my Cera. As for how long it will last, that all depends on the size of the hits you take. A half gram can last me a seemingly endless number of sips or 6-10 FAT rips.

green2brown said:

I already explained a few posts back how to load Clear. Give it another read. I have plenty of experience running Clear through my Cera. As for how long it will last, that all depends on the size of the hits you take. A half gram can last me a seemingly endless number of sips or 6-10 FAT rips.

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oh sorry i didn't mean to miss read… thanks for your suggestion, so maybe cos i am in a cold place my clear is pretty much solid, so i will try to heat it a bit and spoon it with my dabber…. i will let u know the try…..

green2brown said:

I already explained a few posts back how to load Clear. Give it another read. I have plenty of experience running Clear through my Cera.

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Great! I've no idea myself, never saw the stuff. This place is great, so many guys with such varied experience to share......very cool, rare, but cool.

How clean is it? That is how does it do in the foil test?

TIA

OF

How much do they want for a G. of that Clear? Are there any test results on it? It looks like it should pass the foil test with flying colors. One of my strains(BB Bubble Cheese) comes out like that(almost clear!) if I can keep the heat down enough during the vac purge.

OF said:

Great! I've no idea myself, never saw the stuff. This place is great, so many guys with such varied experience to share......very cool, rare, but cool.

How clean is it? That is how does it do in the foil test?

TIA

OF

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The Clear is a super clean concentrate. It's like CO2 oil but without using CO2, instead using heat and pressure to extract.

my cera has finally been updated to being shipped back to me now damnnnn they said my core is fine so they didnt rebuild it. so pretty much i wasted 2 weeks sending it to them for a repair....