Discontinued The Liquidizer Herb2Vapor System - Safety Butane Extractor & Mini-vaporizer

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GR said:
I tried to heat some BHO into ejuice but it just separates when cooled. I just ordered some ej-mix, really hopes it does the trick.
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oh it will do the trick. you are going to love the EJmix. it will not separate on you.

GR said:
I have had the Sapphire tanks for over a month now for ejuice and have had no leaks at all. Every tank cart I have used has leaked or had some kind of issue but amazed the sapphire has not however they are a bit hot for me with straight ejuice but I didn't get them for straight ejuice.

The sapphire are 510 thread and work just fine on ego batteries and 510 adaptors to put them on different threaded batteries.
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i would love to be making large enough amounts of the stuff that the small leaks wouldnt be such a big deal. i really love my PT2 and Davide mini. as of now every drop is precious.

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I am just beginning my quest...It is daunting.There seems to be multiple types of 510 threads based on the pictures I have seen online. How do I know if the cart will work on my Atmos Optimus X 510 thread battery? Some pictures that say they are 510 thread carts look different on the bottom than others. I really don't want to order the wrong ones.
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510 should all be the same. you may be seeing 510/eGo threads on some things. sometimes eGo threaded carts/clearos get labeled as such even though they are only eGo. from my experience anyway.
 
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2clicker said:
510 should all be the same. you may be seeing 510/eGo threads on some things. sometimes eGo threaded carts/clearos get labeled as such even though they are only eGo. from my experience anyway.
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That must be it... Some that are labeled 510 look like the bottom of my revolution cart or the Kanger Protank 2 but others that are labeled 510 look like the Mini Protank 2 bottom...That shit is confusing.

Anyone tried Protank 3 yet?
 
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aj0125 said:
That must be it... Some that are labeled 510 look like the bottom of my revolution cart or the Kanger Protank 2 but others that are labeled 510 look like the Mini Protank 2 bottom...That shit is confusing.
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yeah the mini PT2 has eGo threads. which are the larger ID threads. the reg PT2 has 510 that are the smaller OD threads.

i am very interested in the Uni Tank mini.
 
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A bottle of EJ-Mix was delivered today. I made up a 1 to 1 mix in a shot glass in a bowl of hot water, it combined very nicely. The 1/1 mix became thick like honey once it cooled and was just to thick for the sapphire cart. What little I could get to wick through had a nice flavor of the oil being used. I then cut that mix to make a 2/1 mix, while it is still on the thick side this consistency is working very well with the Sapphire. Flavor is now more glycerin then oil.

Over all I am very happy with the EJ-mix, it keeps the concentrate suspended in the mix very evenly.

The mix I am shooting for will have nicotine, flavor, and 25% concentrate to aid me in quitting cigarettes. My next mix will be a mix of 1/1 EJ-mix and concentrate with a mix of high nicotine ejuice. Flavor may still be an issue with this mix. Time to find out.
 
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GR said:
A bottle of EJ-Mix was delivered today. I made up a 1 to 1 mix in a shot glass in a bowl of hot water, it combined very nicely. The 1/1 mix became thick like honey once it cooled and was just to thick for the sapphire cart. What little I could get to wick through had a nice flavor of the oil being used. I then cut that mix to make a 2/1 mix, while it is still on the thick side this consistency is working very well with the Sapphire. Flavor is now more glycerin then oil.
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I thought the liquidizer people said one could do a 75/25 oil to mix ratio and it would work... Maybe I am just imagining that, but making extra strong ejuice was going to be the only reason for me to buy some mix.
 
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I have made mixes much stronger than 1/1 and have used them fine with the sapphire carts. Probably somewhere around .5/1. The mix can be thick and viscous but not so much as honey. Maybe more like maple syrup or a little thinner. I wonder if GRs experience has to do with the type of concentrate or the methods used. I always heat my mix in a double boiler setup with the water just below boiling temps and let the mix heat together for 5-10 minutes, stirring with the syringe occasionally. Also, my concentrate is normally a fully winterized shatter. Perhaps if you are using something with a lot of plant waxes still in the concentrate it would result in a thicker mix?
 
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Also, my concentrate is normally a fully winterized shatter. Perhaps if you are using something with a lot of plant waxes still in the concentrate it would result in a thicker mix?
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My thoughts exactly. If it's still got lots of waxes and fats in there it should be harder to blend together. Winterized oil is purer and would dissolve easier/better.
 
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My concentrates are just fine, lol.

I used a sativa strain that had waxed up but is very soft, figured it would liquefy easiest but that is an assumption. I will try some shatter tonight.

I did a double boiler set up with a shot glass and a small bowl of water just off boil. The mix and suspension of the oil is not in question and I bet a stronger concentrate to ej mix would work fine if I can get the mix to stay liquid enough at room temp.
 
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Hello to all, liquidizers fans,

I have just bought a Full kit, and i want to say a big thank you to the Liquidizer team.
I have litteraly asked them dozen of questions BEFORE buying the liquidizer and they have take their time to respond precisely to all my questions. A this date, i have made a batch with poor strain, and another with some BLU WIDOW. I must say that the process is very easy, and their vape with the infinite wick is really really great. Yup maybe the price is a little expensive, but the customer support is just incredible. I have received the kit 5 days after payment (i am in Europe) and a lot of goodies were in the pack.

The system is super safe as you dont have to be near the butane during extraction.

Only complain is the extraction tube maybe a little small (20 gr) but the kit is for 100 ml can of butane.


Now i'am also looking for an e-cig where i can put more than one drop at a time......

So for 2clicker, GR and the others who have tried EJmix with Davide anyvape mini, PT2mini, or Sapphire could you tell me how many drops do you put in your cartomizer before reloading ?

Thanks to all
 
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GoGlass said:
So for 2clicker, GR and the others who have tried EJmix with Davide anyvape mini, PT2mini, or Sapphire could you tell me how many drops do you put in your cartomizer before reloading ?

Thanks to all
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tanks like that arent for dripping. you fill them up with anywhere from 1ml-3ml (some even more) and just use them until they run out.
 
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GoGlass said:
So for 2clicker, GR and the others who have tried EJmix with Davide anyvape mini, PT2mini, or Sapphire could you tell me how many drops do you put in your cartomizer before reloading ?

Thanks to all
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Like 2clicker said, they can hold ml's of juice in there. What you want is a bottom-coil setup so that the juice blend doesn't have to wick upwards to the atomizer.
 
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Did another 1/1 ratio with ej mix and a different strain of concentrate, the results are much better. It could be the shatter I used or that I let the mix sit for much longer on heat while they mixed. The first batch the wax material combined easily in less then 3 min and I removed it from the heat, this time I let it mix on heat for 10 min. These second results with the shatter I could go to a larger ratio of concentrate with the plan on mixing nicotine ejuice to thin it down a bit more. I kept the second batch in the shot glass over night and will see if re heating and adding another 25% concentrate will mix in and stay suspended before thinning with ejuice to see if that ratio will stay suspended.

Edit: I had to add a few more drops of ej mix to keep the concentrate and ejuice suspended. This mixture is very close to a 1/1/1 mix with concentrate being a slightly higher ratio. Looks promising.
 
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@2clicker : Thanks! So if i use the Davide anyvape mini, or PT2mini, or Sapphire with my EJuice (50% BHO & 50% EJMIX) can i put 20/30 drops in it ? (i mean is it ok to load so small quantities, am i gonna waste some product due to the system : wick, tank , etc... sorry i am a newbie in the e-ciq world)

And what about the process of "holding down the power button for 3 – 5 seconds until the coils are glowing red, for carbonizes all organic compounds and restores the wick " (manual)? Should i made the same if i got a Davide anyvape mini or a PT2mini ?



@Quetzalcoatl : Thanks! But i'am confused because the Liquidizer Team prefers top coils "because bottom coil units, after a bit of use, tend to sit in a pool of spent residue which affects the taste of the vapor".
So what do you think about that ?

And could you think that we can find an atomizer or a cartomizer with top coils designs, but who can hold 1ml of my EJuice ?


And finally, except with Cera/Persei, is there anothers ways to vape EJuice (BHO + EJmix) without a SILICA WICK & A COIL at this time ?!!! Thanks to all !
 
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GoGlass IMO nothing tastes better then straight concentrates used in the proper device. The ej mix for me is about being able to mix it with nicotine where the concentrate does not seperate out of the mix in a cartomizer. Ejuice will wick up because its viscosity is more like water but thicken it up and it has to fight gravity to feed the heater. I have used many top wicks and they have all leaked which is messy, annoying, and a waste. I prefer bottom wicks and heaters for ejuice and now for this blend I am working on.
 
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Thanks for your input GR. As i am new to concentrates & e-cigs & e-juices with THC, i'am hesitate using 'straight concentrates' when i'am out, or e-juices with EJmix. Someone has just lend me an Omicron.
Have just try it with BHO from trims at this time, but this beast seems to be f***ing awesome, especially for the taste. And i'am not talking about the time before you have to reload it....

I also love my EJuices with 1:1, 1:2 or 1:3 ratios, and the EJVape.

But i'am looking for an e-cig who can hold ~ 20/30 drops of my EJuice, with a Glass Tank & (on your advices !) with a bottom coil.

Which quantity do you put in your Sapphire, with your actual blend ?
 
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The Sapphire is a 1.5 ml tank, 35 drops is roughly 1ml, so another 15+ drops would fit in. I personally like weight, so 1 g of concentrate with 1g of ej mix roughly results in 2ml of mix at 1/1
 
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I think this will be the next inventions...............the perfect pen for wax, shatter and such. This way we don't have to bother with oil. Right now I use the vip2 and drop the wax on the coil. It works well and doesn't leak but the atty breaks eventually only because it gets so sticky and I end up pulling it apart. It is not an expensive piece to replace unlike some other pens. Ideally I would want a closed unit that can't leak if it got hot but I think that is what we all want. Dr. D seems to be the closest so far but the coils are still to high and you have to scrap to get the stuff underneath back on the coils. It also still uses a wick system.
 
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Dreamerr said:
I think this will be the next inventions...............the perfect pen for wax, shatter and such. This way we don't have to bother with oil. Right now I use the vip2 and drop the wax on the coil. It works well and doesn't leak but the atty breaks eventually only because it gets so sticky and I end up pulling it apart. It is not an expensive piece to replace unlike some other pens. Ideally I would want a closed unit that can't leak if it got hot but I think that is what we all want. Dr. D seems to be the closest so far but the coils are still to high and you have to scrap to get the stuff underneath back on the coils. It also still uses a wick system.
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You missed the revolution train? Sure it's like .15 load size but I still have the same atty :)
 
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I actually came in at the somewhat tail end but wasn't up to concentrates yet. They are also bigger then a pen. Someone needs to make the perfect one sooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. I hope they get inexperienced testers as well to help make it perfect. IIRC battery life was an issue with the rev wasn't it?
 
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Dreamerr said:
I actually came in at the somewhat tail end but wasn't up to concentrates yet. They are also bigger then a pen. Someone needs to make the perfect one sooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. I hope they get inexperienced testers as well to help make it perfect. IIRC battery life was an issue with the rev wasn't it?
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Kinda sorta, it was way more of an issue with the Evolution which was their convection flower cart. The Revolution (and subsequent DART which performs the same) run on a 14500 battery so you'd have to add another charger and batteries if you don't already have them, but I can easily overmedicate a few times over on one charge, and judging by your posts, I think I have a higher tolerance than you do. They're out of production but they work so well I can't imagine ever selling mine. I start breaking out in sweats and anxiety when I can't find mine :lol: It takes a bit longer to heat up from cold start, around 10 seconds IME, so it's not nearly as instant as the rest of the oil pens, but it was designed to be a long-term item. I haven't sent it in for rebuilding or anything yet and I think I'm at about a year with it now?

I know you dislike PG/VG due to throat harshness issues, but that still leaves some options open: VB Dabbler, Omicron Lite + KISS cart, to name two.
 
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Dreamerr said:
I think this will be the next inventions...............the perfect pen for wax, shatter and such. This way we don't have to bother with oil. Right now I use the vip2 and drop the wax on the coil. It works well and doesn't leak but the atty breaks eventually only because it gets so sticky and I end up pulling it apart. It is not an expensive piece to replace unlike some other pens. Ideally I would want a closed unit that can't leak if it got hot but I think that is what we all want. Dr. D seems to be the closest so far but the coils are still to high and you have to scrap to get the stuff underneath back on the coils. It also still uses a wick system.
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The omicron carts work well with shatter and wax and is a vape pen. The Cera EO is not what I call stealthy or really a pen vape but it is on par with doing dabs. The dabber style carts seem to be coming along with improvements so it shouldn't be long before someone gets these working very well.
 
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GR said:
The omicron carts work well with shatter and wax and is a vape pen. The Cera EO is not what I call stealthy or really a pen vape but it is on par with doing dabs.
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How do you rate Revolution/DART on that scale?

TIA

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How do you rate Revolution/DART on that scale?

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I can't since I have never used either of them, The Omicron and the Cera are the only portables I use for straight concentrates. Most my fun money goes into custom glass oil rigs and nails, I am always questing for the perfect flavorful hit, the Cera satisfies these desires in a potable. Now if an enail would come along that was dependable and pleasing to the eye I would be very happy.
 
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EJmix makes medicating in public places a breeze. that is why this stuff is so amazing.

for straight EO i loved my Darts and Rev, but as of now i like the BHOLT atty the best.
 
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2clicker said:
EJmix makes medicating in public places a breeze. that is why this stuff is so amazing.

for straight EO i loved my Darts and Rev, but as of now i like the BHOLT atty the best.
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y has no one mentioned the persei/heculese sr-71 combo. itl do ur diluted herbal mixes, ejuice, water hash, herb and of course EO. and with some of the most lungbusting hits with mouthwatering flav. also has a pass thru system that will even charge ur usb pens phones ect. did I mention its all medical grade materials and no I don't work for em ,my dream hasn't come true im just a fan or fanatic lol
 
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