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marduk

marduk

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IMO it would be fairly easy to offer an optional chamber/mouthpiece that is an inch or two longer to allow more cooling of the vapor. The GH would be about as long as a pen with a removable cap placed on the other end. Even if it were a little longer, the proportions of the GH "pen" would look just fine to a casual observer at a reasonable distance.
 
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Great Scott!
They could also use a material similar to the thermovape cera. The vapor always comes out cool and it is an insanely short path. Its because of the materials used.
 
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paytonpenn

Level 30 Nature/Healer
The uploader posted
This was more around 50-60% power so that is about 300F. Some requested a lower temp video. I will try and make some more with the higher temp as well.
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Normally when I vape my first hit doesn't produce much vapor, its always been more around the third that I really notice its blatant visibility. Not to say I couldn't produce visible vapor on the first hit. (Actually I probably just hold that tasty vapor in too long)

But 300F for me is low, or at least seems low. I always started EQ bowls around 160C, bump up to around 190C (enjoying a few hits on each 5 degree increment), probably finish at 220.

The vapor he pulled seemed definitely reasonable for that temperature, but I don't live in a world of vapes that tell me their temperature so maybe I'm wrong.
 
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mrweed

mrweed

vaporizer review blogger
sorry. haven't been very concrete. what i ment is that the stealth factor might not be so important as you believe! in general, i think the stealth factor is overrated, because if you start using them in public non of these are really stealth anymore. what remains might be a very good vaporizer (no matter for which purpose) for cheap and that's all i hope for.
No harm meant! :)
 
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axakal

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overrated or not, but some are more stealthy than the others. for example, the mflb was used in many situations without being noticed. try this with the majority of other portables and you'll fail. this shiny pen is aiming for good marks regarding the stealth factor.

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sorry. haven't been very concrete. what i ment is that the stealth factor might not be so important as you believe! in general, i think the stealth factor is overrated, because if you start using them in public non of these are really stealth anymore. what remains might be a very good vaporizer (no matter for which purpose) for cheap and that's all i hope for.
No harm meant! :)
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stickstones

stickstones

Vapor concierge
correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't know the retail yet, do we? I thought the $99 was the price for indigogo supporters.
 
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HillaryClinton

HillaryClinton

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stickstones said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't know the retail yet, do we? I thought the $99 was the price for indigogo supporters.
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Correct, apparently we will also get "unbelievable deals", not sure if thats just the 99 dollars discount or some special stuff. Guess we will see tomorrow :-)
 
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mrweed

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oh ok. maybe i've missed something. thought they would still launch it on indiegogo (edit: they will!), but true maybe the price has changed by now. that 99$ info is pretty old
 
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paytonpenn

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They are, nothing has changed, I believe those "unbelievable deals" he mentioned are going to be the perk options for less than retail value, (such as titanium, colors, the gh itself)

They haven't mentioned retail price but they have noted that it will be unlikely to remain at $99 once the campaign is over. I wouldn't expect to be able to purchase one until after February when they finish the gogo batches.
 
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llamaman001

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99$ bucks a pop and they want to raise $100,000 before they sell one unit. Im optimistic but for a new company with a new vape that is a pretty high goal but hopefully they can hit it.

Id like to see a full break down video of how this comes apart for the user to clean, and 3 different videos showing low, med, and high temps. Only then would I ever consider investing the 99$. Maybe they will make the batts replaceable?
 
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nopartofme

nopartofme

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When vapes get smaller, the airpath gets shorter and the vapor will be harsher. We can't have it all.
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Well they actually can extend the air path without increasing the length of the pen. It's called an obstructive filter mouthpiece, sometimes called a UFO, and it's how the Cera's mouthpiece works.

It might be hard to make it work quite so well without the ceramic, but I can speak from experience that the Cera's mouthpiece "de-harshes" vapor like none other, no water tool required. The distance 'as the crow flies' between the >1000°F coil and the end of mouthpiece is less than an inch. Inside, the mouthpiece forces the vapor to travel probably close to twice that distance.

Real 'cool' stuff...
 
Grange Goreman

Grange Goreman

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Harshness and flow restriction (the MP's tiny pinhole scares me) are the two points I'm wondering about considering this vape …..

but they won't prevent me from investing 99$ as soon as I'll wake up tomorrow …..:science:
 
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HillaryClinton

HillaryClinton

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nopartofme said:
Well they actually can extend the air path without increasing the length of the pen. It's called an obstructive filter mouthpiece, sometimes called a UFO, and it's how the Cera's mouthpiece works.

It might be hard to make it work quite so well without the ceramic, but I can speak from experience that the Cera's mouthpiece "de-harshes" vapor like none other, no water tool required. The distance 'as the crow flies' between the >1000°F coil and the end of mouthpiece is less than an inch. Inside, the mouthpiece forces the vapor to travel probably close to twice that distance.

Real 'cool' stuff...
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Maybe they are using similar tech? This is what was posted in response to it getting hotter earlier in the thread.

"It doesn't get too warm thanks to a little feat of engineering we were able to implement. We haven't patented it yet though so its our little secret for now :smug:"
 
nopartofme

nopartofme

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If they managed to pull off convection dominance, there really should be some kind of built-in flow restriction. That improves the quality of the vaporization, so long as the user adjusts to the restriction properly.

Restriction is nothing to be afraid of, IMO; it has no effect on your 'top speed' of vapor production, or even your acceleration. It only gives you direct feedback on how the vape performs best rather than letting you pull full force and wonder why you aren't getting the results you expect.
 
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paytonpenn

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They go live at midnight
This link will be live at 12:00am EST: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grasshopper-vaporizer/x/4553069

We’ve decided to go live at midnight Eastern Standard Time (EST) tonight. Look for a special deal for those of you that arrive first. Lots of updates, content and news coming soon!

Also we would like to announce the winner of the Tee shirt contest from all those months ago. Congratulations to Martin for the design below. You will be receiving your Grasshopper for free! Thanks to everyone else for participating. Also, if you were on the list to receive a free shirt we will still be sending those out when the campaign is finished.
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poonman

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Quetzalcoatl said:
I foresee this being a mostly convection with some conduction vape. I wonder how hot the herb chamber walls get, if they cool off rapidly, etc. I agree that sending out some units to us FCers would be an appreciated gesture, there's a video by the manufacturer and then there's a video by one of us :tup: it would for sure eliminate any doubts we have. How do you guys think they'll approach the concentrate use? I'm thinking cotton or hemp (or weed hehe) will produce desirable results.
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I thought I read that the were going to introduce a separate
SS chamber to be used for oils/waxes . I wanted to know what was the highest temp these can achieve for concentrates . still no reply from @Zenpen ...

Just to add to the stealth chat ,
All stealthness goes out the window , IF it Combusts in public ...
But I agree , if it can only go up to 300 F , it won't combust .
I need higher temps tho .
 
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k0udek

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I'm curious about that too.. if i could throw hash in there it would be boss :brow:
 
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HillaryClinton

HillaryClinton

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Got on of the 89 dollar ones, thing is I just realized I will be in another state when this thing ships, can I change the shipping address later?(Or I can pick it up, moving to South Carolina.)

I paid without making an indiegogo account and realized I can add a battery for 5 more dollars after paying, anyway I can add that now?
 
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