Best oil pen for my situation?

hey, i am looking for the oil pen that best fits these guidelines
keeps the oil contained so the inactive/warm vape is as smell free as possible (most important)
dont need new atomizers or whatever
doesnt clog
pen style (not persei etc)
doesnt leak (ever/no chance/no leak onto threading etc)
around 100$
high reliability

I live at college and as winters approaching in wisconsin i dont want to find a smoke spot i just want to walk outside and hit the pen, walk back in with no oil smell.

I need to start by stating nothing exists which matches 100% of your criteria, in all instances. That being said, Id be glad to offer up some alternatives that come as close as possible...

First idea that comes to mind is to liquidize your concentrate, and vape it out of an e-cig style device, such as an Ego (etc). I'm sure @BLAZING OG can give you specific details as to what brand/parts you need, but It'll all end up being $25 or less I'd think. Once you have that built out, you can do your own custom mix of PG/VG and whatever concentrate you want, or you can just buy this stuff and mix it in:

http://www.liquidizer.com/ejmix.html

I've not used it, but I hear it works very well. In any case, you will need to get "replaceable atomizers or whatever" once in a while. Bonus, though... lots of people (around here anyway) use e-cig style devices to vape nicotine e-juice all the time. Youll blend right in with them and you can adjust things to disguise smell and taste.

The second thought is for you to use something like the Ophos or Omicron-Lite:

http://www.w9tech.com/omicron-lite-essential-oil-vaporizer/

http://www.w9tech.com/o-phos-essential-oil-vaporizer/

They are both very stealth, and the traditional carts are all self contained so once its loaded you never see or smell what went in there until you vape it again (or stick it 1" from your nose). Again, though, you can only reuse those carts a few times before you need to use a new one (although 200-300 good size puffs are to be had out of each fill). Plus they can leak if you dont use/store them properly. Then again nothing is "leak proof". Ever.

Last, but not least you can go with a LYAG (load as you go) pen/heater/cart like the VB Dabbler/DR. Dabber style pens. You could load the bowl/heater in private, take it outside, vape whats in it... and come back with it empty. Issue here is that you will only get 2-3 good hits before you need to reload... and yes you still need to replace the heaters once in a while. That also reminds me, W9 Tech also makes these style carts for their Ophos and Omicron-Lite line of vape pens. Just another option... AND you can rebuild their heaters.

Anyway, all these suggestions are under $100, so you need to weigh out whats most important to you and make your choice.

Also, not all of these devices work "best" with all types of concentrate. What do you usually use? BHOs? Shatters or more oil? So on and such stuff...

i dont plan to put like a gram in a cart. only like .1 would be fine. i heard you can get like 20 rips off that. I use shatter or wax.
id mainly just like a cart that is sealed in really well, leaks would be awful. i was also thinking of making my own oil pen with parts bought online and then the cartomizer could be extremely cheap if i needed to replace it and i could select a model with extremely minimal leakage.
how sealed is the cart on the ophos?

They are sealed to the point where you shouldn't worry someone standing next to you can smell it through the pan and your jeans or jacket pocket.

If you want to go with a Up Tech Product, I suggest an Ophos or Omicron-Lite (Id actually prefer the Omicron-Lite since its meant to replace the Ophos anyway) and their "KISS" (keep it simple stupid AKA "load as you go") carts.

You can choose the 5ohm version which will help conserve your medication, and they use ceramic wicks instead of silica rope wick (better flavor and less degradation of performance over time).

Of course if you are really worried, you can just buy a few of these and throw your pen/cart in it when your on the go:

http://www.smellyproof.com/store/product.php?productid=16200&cat=255&page=1

They stop the dankest smelling buds from giving off an odor through the bag, so itll handle your concentrate no problem. Plus they are reusable.

BTW, 20 rips off of 0.1g in a e-cig style pen is a bit optimistic IMO.

I don't know... maybe just buy a turn key pen like the Dr. Dabber /VB Dabbler/Omi-Lite. That way you get a warranty unlike a piece mail e-cig setup. They all basically work the same anyway if you're talking about doing top loaded dabs.

Caligula said:

They are sealed to the point where you shouldn't worry someone standing next to you can smell it through the pan and your jeans or jacket pocket.

If you want to go with a Up Tech Product, I suggest an Ophos or Omicron-Lite (Id actually prefer the Omicron-Lite since its meant to replace the Ophos anyway) and their "KISS" (keep it simple stupid AKA "load as you go") carts.

You can choose the 5ohm version which will help conserve your medication, and they use ceramic wicks instead of silica rope wick (better flavor and less degradation of performance over time).

Of course if you are really worried, you can just buy a few of these and throw your pen/cart in it when your on the go:

http://www.smellyproof.com/store/product.php?productid=16200&cat=255&page=1

They stop the dankest smelling buds from giving off an odor through the bag, so itll handle your concentrate no problem. Plus they are reusable.

BTW, 20 rips off of 0.1g in a e-cig style pen is a bit optimistic IMO.

I don't know... maybe just buy a turn key pen like the Dr. Dabber /VB Dabbler/Omi-Lite. That way you get a warranty unlike a piece mail e-cig setup. They all basically work the same anyway if you're talking about doing top loaded dabs.

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I ended up grabbing the dr dabber pen from ebay since it was only $40. too good to pass up. i also bought a pottle 4.5 in blunt tube, ill just stash it in there as an airtight carrying case for odorless use

adhezivek said:

I ended up grabbing the dr dabber pen from ebay since it was only $40. too good to pass up. i also bought a pottle 4.5 in blunt tube, ill just stash it in there as an airtight carrying case for odorless use

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I have a Dr. Dabber pen, and I love it! It's a great pen.

Cant beat that deal, enjoy!!!!!
you can build similar set up for cheaper but the dr dabber seems to use better quality materials which matters!!!
The halo titanium globes look interesting 510 threaded, but dr dabber is releasing a globe add on I think.

I too am looking for an oil pen-vape that doesn't require you to replace heaters. It seems low-tech to me to drop oil directly onto a coil- surely there's a more oven-style solution to this problem?

I wouldn't mind paying a lot more for this if it existed!

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VapeFiend.com said:

I too am looking for an oil pen-vape that doesn't require you to replace heaters. It seems low-tech to me to drop oil directly onto a coil- surely there's a more oven-style solution to this problem?

I wouldn't mind paying a lot more for this if it existed!

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look into the thermo essence tech cera EO (essential oil vape) can hold .5 to maybe .8 and is an impressive device. Not a single load device but can be if the single load is big enough. I wouldnt call it a pen, way beyond that , its a bit larger than a pen and a bit heavier. Performance speaks for its self, the carts can be re build for approx. $15 bucks(by TET) but as long as you feed it cleaner materials and keep it clean she will last a very long time without re building or replacing. The EO cart has a 1 year warranty and I believe if taken care of will never need replacing , only thing is extracts with alot of matter left in them can eventually slow the vapor production down but if you use clean extracts and do a simple routine cleaning will last a long long time.

hmm it seems like the Cera needs a lot of maintenance. Sadly here in the UK clean extracts are rare. I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be an oil pen that encloses the heater in some sort of material that can be easily cleaned with alcohol and cotton buds. Surely this would make the heater last as long as heaters on vapes like the Solo

oil she IL ll com, post: 487443, member: 12970"]hmm it seems like the Cera needs a lot of maintenance. Sadly here in the UK clean extracts are rare. I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be an oil pen that encloses the heater in some sort of material that can be easily cleaned with alcohol and cotton buds. Surely this would make the heater last as long as heaters on vapes like the Solo[/quote]
I mean the cerawill take any extract (oil) when you iso bath it and boil I so ok for last vwry

VapeFiend.com said:

hmm it seems like the Cera needs a lot of maintenance. Sadly here in the UK clean extracts are rare. I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be an oil pen that encloses the heater in some sort of material that can be easily cleaned with alcohol and cotton buds. Surely this would make the heater last as long as heaters on vapes like the Solo

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cera is low maintenance just every once in while iso bath and boil, not no like me putting grams and grams of crappy to top shelf shatter in my cera without cleaning for months.
I have recently cleaned her up 95% and is back to normal. I don't see the heaters in these going bad at all anytime soon. the cera loose leaf is known to handle hashes pretty well if that's more available.

VapeFiend.com said:

I too am looking for an oil pen-vape that doesn't require you to replace heaters. It seems low-tech to me to drop oil directly onto a coil- surely there's a more oven-style solution to this problem?

I wouldn't mind paying a lot more for this if it existed!

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No, for now the "Technology " is just putting a little concentrate on a hot coil and sucking in.... they are all the fucking same thing....

You can buy a vaped globe at a lhs foer 40-50$ or A Dr. Dabber Globe for about the same or you can get the same thing from China for 10 Sets for 39.99$ http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2013...ry-herb-glass-globe-vaporizer/1392088622.html and no I did not check to see if you can just buy 1 order from china..

Thanks Detonator, are these globes work a different way then? I thought they still involved putting a little concentrate on a hot coil.

And thanks Blazing OG, I do like Thermo Essence as a company so will probably try out the Cera. Dr. Dabber also looks good for what it is.

I wish I had the engineering know-how to put together a read oil/concentrate vaporizer in pen form that didn't need constant replacing of parts.

VapeFiend.com said:

Thanks Detonator, are these globes work a different way then? I thought they still involved putting a little concentrate on a hot coil.

And thanks Blazing OG, I do like Thermo Essence as a company so will probably try out the Cera. Dr. Dabber also looks good for what it is.

I wish I had the engineering know-how to put together a read oil/concentrate vaporizer in pen form that didn't need constant replacing of parts.

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yes the type I showed are all just a coil that you hook up to a battery and send electricitcy thru then woot woot the wax turns to vapor! but the 10$ (lhs) / probly .25 cent from china last a while ( 1 week to 1 mo sometimes ) replacement coils last long enough. If you learn how to use them and try to burn off some of the reclaim and dont let it get too gummed up they last even better

there is also build your own rebuildable attys that are used in the dripping e cig world that others are using here *( find the thread ) I too lazy to do this even though I been fucking with e cigs now for 4 years but really these are where it really at if you want to look...

wait wait... Your a retailer? UK head shop owner?

UK online vape shop owner!

Detonator said:

... there is also build your own rebuildable attys that are used in the dripping e cig world that others are using here *( find the thread ) I too lazy to do this even though I been fucking with e cigs now for 4 years but really these are where it really at if you want to look ...

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W9 makes the KISS cart which is rebuildable (ceramic wick) $19.99 - discussed in the Omicron Lite thread.

I'm sure there are cheaper rebuildable heaters out there, but W9 is reputable. Also, it's next gen will make use of porous ceramic for the wick.

VapeFiend.com said:

I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be an oil pen that encloses the heater in some sort of material that can be easily cleaned with alcohol and cotton buds. Surely this would make the heater last as long as heaters on vapes like the Solo

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And here you go.

http://www.w9tech.com/hercules-sr-71/



BTW that will vape anything from the purest oil to the dirtiest scissor hash, all day, every day.

bingo! Thanks Caligula!

cera

Dr Dabber (more of a single load at a time)

Vapor Bros. Dabbler is also a great device with great reviews but also like the dr dabber its a single load a at a time.

Videos enjoy!

BLAZING OG said:

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005098/1442708-oddy-rebuildable-atomizer-w-stainless-steel-tank

this one I saw some dude using said it worked great and at the price its a steal, you can wire it for wax budders or shatters and use silica wick , ekowool, ceramic rods, xc116 ceramic wick, stainless steel mesh, etc, etc.


and these are a decent deal , most places charge you 18-30 bucks for one atomizer thats identical to this , my buddy uses these and they seem to work wonderful, similar to alot of oil pen atomizers, the one i like is the dr dabber it has a recessed coil closer to the bottom were all the oil that melts into the bottom gets vaporized also. but these seem pretty good for the price.

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/...ix-electronic-cigarette-atomizer-for-e-solid-

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I may need to get some of these. I have a battery coming Friday and I already have my 5 cartomzers. My plan is to get an oil syringe and just squeeze it in to the cartomizer. I know I have to warm it up though. Are there any other steps?

Also, is there any truth to oxidizing the cartridges?