Discontinued Thermovape Cera
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
iamn3ko
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Just saying, already been done
That was one of the first original designs. I actually did a video with a design almost exact to yours back when the Cera first came out.
This is what I use now, that's the EO in the picture, but the MP is mainly for the LL, which works wonders (in my opinion).
Which lately, I've been putting the elbow screen from my EQ into my Cera LL bowl and packing that. Seems as a lot of people find their own techniques, I found mine.
This also contains a fully stainless steel thick mesh screen (not a flimsy pipe screen) AND fully ceramic honeycomb screen. Along with stainless steel tube and ceramic MP. With a series of O- Rings holding it in place. Everything is solid and stays in one full piece. I'm pretty proud of it, needless to say.
If I get around to it I'll post a pic that describes what I'm talking about.
Enjoy!
Chill Dude
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So, it seems my EO core is clogged. I checked the mouthpiece it it wasn't clogged, so it's the core itself. I don't think I overfilled it because it's not leaking or anything. I've tried to inhale hard to break the clog, but no luck. Has anyone had this issue before? Shit man, I really need Cera to work. Any advice?
OF
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Sure, no big deal. You just got oil down past the heater into the base. Try heating it a bit and hitting it again. It should clear easily.
In extreme cases, you might try holding it nose down so the oil will flow out of the area when it melts. But normally just softening the part blocking the ports (they're tiny at the very bottom) is enough.
Keep after it. Good luck.
OF
Chill Dude
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Thanks OF, I tried some extra heating, but still wasn't able to unclog the core. Next, as you suggested, I held Cera upside down and activated the heat. Sure enough when I hit it again I was clog free!! BTW, what causes these types of clogs? When you say oil must have gotten down past the heater are you saying that it's due to overloading? Because my clog happened right after loading some fresh oil. If so, next time I guess I shouldn't be so over zealous when loading new oil. I don't really understand the inner workings of these cores.....
OF
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You're welcome, glad you got it cleared.
Yes, a little too much oil or it was so thin it got past the reservoir without sinking in. Unless you really overdid it it should stay clear now. Next time I'd try a little less until you get to know how it behaves a little better.
Sometimes you can get the same thing going if the fill is still pretty fresh and you hit it hard and shut down fast with it standing nose up. I find in general laying it on it's side when I set it down helps here.
Enjoy the Cera, IMO it's a powerful and useful tool.
OF
Rocco
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Wait so did you leave Thermovape, Tim? Like is your new site just a diversification of your business or your replacement job of Thermovape?
And Tim did you mean they arent working on it anymore as a way of saying they arent going to produce it or they have done the final plans for production as of now?
forgive my lack of understanding, hard to read all these threads with my poor eyesight so i kind just skim through parts.
And Tim did you mean they arent working on it anymore as a way of saying they arent going to produce it or they have done the final plans for production as of now?
forgive my lack of understanding, hard to read all these threads with my poor eyesight so i kind just skim through parts.
OF
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Tim had to quit some time back to take over the family business when his mother passed away, it keeps him quite busy. I still see him from time to time, although last time (about 10 days back?) it took us several cancelled plans to finally get together. He just doesn't have time to go by TV and shoot the breeze with the guys. He sometimes takes several days to answer my emails, doesn't visit these forums very often.
He didn't say they weren't working on it any more, what he said is:
"I haven't heard any updates since the last time i spoke of it, I dont know if its still being worked on".
I've been by the shop since he has, at that time they were definitely working on the new model, I assume they are still and expect it to be still on track. Perhaps next time I'm over that way I could drop by but I really have no other reason to.
OF
Unconnected
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Dude the cera is not that big i dont see why anyone would want a mini? its a lot smaller than it looks in photos, heres a tip, it should be smaller than your dick, you carry that around everywhere with out wanting a mini version i assume?
I know i sound way evangelica about this device for someone with only a handful of posts here (im just a forum whore of 12 years experience so i just jump in) but honestly just buy the normal size one. The only thing they could make smaller is the battery size, which you dont exactly want in a portable vaporizer, or any portable device powered by batteries, you want as much battery as you can get in all areas of your life.
if your worried about the shape and think a mini would be a less dick shaped device, maybe, but honestly its never a problem,
Just put your phone or wallet over it in your pocket so it doesnt look like you have a dildo down your pants or something and its fine.
One thing i love about this, its design is so clean nobody would expect its for getting high with, like i was driving home from work vaping up and it was fine nobody batted an eyelid or even gave me a second look. And if anyone asks your just like ECIG then walk away
and if the police ask what it is you just say its a dildo and you like it in the backside, there aint no fucking way they are going to open it up or question you about it after that.
None of that is true with vapes like an mflb, a terrible portable, and not steath at all because its all hippy vibes.
I know i sound way evangelica about this device for someone with only a handful of posts here (im just a forum whore of 12 years experience so i just jump in) but honestly just buy the normal size one. The only thing they could make smaller is the battery size, which you dont exactly want in a portable vaporizer, or any portable device powered by batteries, you want as much battery as you can get in all areas of your life.
if your worried about the shape and think a mini would be a less dick shaped device, maybe, but honestly its never a problem,
Just put your phone or wallet over it in your pocket so it doesnt look like you have a dildo down your pants or something and its fine.
One thing i love about this, its design is so clean nobody would expect its for getting high with, like i was driving home from work vaping up and it was fine nobody batted an eyelid or even gave me a second look. And if anyone asks your just like ECIG then walk away
and if the police ask what it is you just say its a dildo and you like it in the backside, there aint no fucking way they are going to open it up or question you about it after that.None of that is true with vapes like an mflb, a terrible portable, and not steath at all because its all hippy vibes.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
Cera Mini is a misnomer, from what we've heard it's better called Cera Light. It's going to use the same size batteries, so it won't be smaller really. The big draws are a non-ceramic battery tube for lighter weight, and a side switch.
Also, thus far word is that it's only designed for oil and juice usage, not for LL...
Oh, and I love the LLC, but don't knock the 'box...
On a different note, @Alan posted over in the Vaping With Cotton thread about a great sounding method for transferring oils to hemp or cotton. I think that this would vape excellently in the loose leaf cart! For those of us with no EO cart, of course.
Also, thus far word is that it's only designed for oil and juice usage, not for LL...
Oh, and I love the LLC, but don't knock the 'box...
On a different note, @Alan posted over in the Vaping With Cotton thread about a great sounding method for transferring oils to hemp or cotton. I think that this would vape excellently in the loose leaf cart! For those of us with no EO cart, of course.
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Tom Funk
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I reckon the Cera Lite could be about 20mm shorter if it uses a T1 style handle. The switch and spring on the Cera make the unit a fair bit longer.
I doubt that the new handle won't be compatible with the LL core or the original cap and mouthpiece. I think that would be a mistake.
TF
I doubt that the new handle won't be compatible with the LL core or the original cap and mouthpiece. I think that would be a mistake.
TF
OF
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As guys are saying, it's not likely to get much smaller. It will be lighter since the ceramic is thick and heavy in the body. I'd expect a few ounces even?
Diameter of the body can be reduced a bit by cutting the wall thickness back as much as 1/8 inch I think (they're 1/4 total, 1/8 to a side, right now) and it'll loose maybe 1/4 inch from the length by moving the stitch from under the battery to between the battery and cart.
The carts will be the same, we're told, so the top part won't change.
I haven't seen any hardware, but the drawings I've been showed and the discussions I've had also lead me to think 'Light' is a better name than 'Mini', I doubt many seeing it alone will think it's all that tiny?
I think the real goal involves making it more 'pocket friendly' for the e-cig guys who carry in their pockets all day long?
OF
Diameter of the body can be reduced a bit by cutting the wall thickness back as much as 1/8 inch I think (they're 1/4 total, 1/8 to a side, right now) and it'll loose maybe 1/4 inch from the length by moving the stitch from under the battery to between the battery and cart.
The carts will be the same, we're told, so the top part won't change.
I haven't seen any hardware, but the drawings I've been showed and the discussions I've had also lead me to think 'Light' is a better name than 'Mini', I doubt many seeing it alone will think it's all that tiny?
I think the real goal involves making it more 'pocket friendly' for the e-cig guys who carry in their pockets all day long?
OF
On a different note, @Alan posted over in the Vaping With Cotton thread about a great sounding method for transferring oils to hemp or cotton. I think that this would vape excellently in the loose leaf cart! For those of us with no EO cart, of course.
check out "ceramic wick" -- would this be "smokable" ?
also on different note: I can't seem to edit a past post, so I just want to say that I withdraw my suggestion of
%100 gc silicone grease for the cera o rings...it in fact tends to stick after a while! Much better, and used by many oem
flashlight manufacturers on o rings is:
SUPER LUBE synthetic ptfe grease with syncolon...stays slippery with the heat..slide on...
check out "ceramic wick" -- would this be "smokable" ?
also on different note: I can't seem to edit a past post, so I just want to say that I withdraw my suggestion of
%100 gc silicone grease for the cera o rings...it in fact tends to stick after a while! Much better, and used by many oem
flashlight manufacturers on o rings is:
SUPER LUBE synthetic ptfe grease with syncolon...stays slippery with the heat..slide on...
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
Sorry, I'm not following. If you're wondering whether cotton is safe to vape, the answer is yes. Check out the rest of that thread I linked, and if you have more questions or concerns about it I recommend asking them over there where there are lots of people experienced with it. I've never tried it myself, only read about it.
As for lubing your o-rings, I want to add a note of warning only because I once lost a top cap & mouthpiece due to an inadvertent and sudden flick of the wrist and swing of an arm. They sailed right off the Cera in an unknown direction while I was momentarily distracted. They're still out there in the woods, somewhere... No doubt covered in dead leaves and perhaps sunk into some mud by now. It's an expensive replacement, and I didn't have any lube involved or anything.
Take care!
ok, but I started lubing it after I had to use a pliers to get the head off!
what I had in mind was using this instead of cotton..not a recommended use by the manufacturer
but probably just covering their legal ass...
http://www.omega.com/pptst/xc_xc4_sleeving.html
Nextel 312 is an Alumina-Borica-Silica fiber that is braided without the aid of organic, glass or metal inserts. This sleeving retains strength and flexibility at continuous exposure to 1200°C (2200°F). Short exposures to 1425°C (2600°F) can be tolerated. Most common metals (except molten copper and tin) do not attack the fibers.
Because Nextel 312 Ceramic Fibers contain no residual acids or chlorides, there are no chemicals present to corrode or etch the wires. Even in a test involving exposure to 96 percent relative humidity, no noticeable electrolytic corrosion was detected.
Not recommended for use in abrasive environments without the protection of Inconel® overbraiding or a thermowell.
Nextel material is also used to insulate fuel cell interconnect wire see part number XTW-XT-NN-24 for fuel cell application details.
This material is intended for industrial applications only. In addition, Omega does not recommend this material for food, cosmetic, medical, or pharmaceutical use.
XC Nextel sleeving is NOT FOR EXPORT and is sold for USA use Only. Please consider using XS (silica material) as a substitute outside of the USA or consult OMEGA's Temperature Engineering Department.
what I had in mind was using this instead of cotton..not a recommended use by the manufacturer
but probably just covering their legal ass...
http://www.omega.com/pptst/xc_xc4_sleeving.html
Nextel 312 is an Alumina-Borica-Silica fiber that is braided without the aid of organic, glass or metal inserts. This sleeving retains strength and flexibility at continuous exposure to 1200°C (2200°F). Short exposures to 1425°C (2600°F) can be tolerated. Most common metals (except molten copper and tin) do not attack the fibers.
Because Nextel 312 Ceramic Fibers contain no residual acids or chlorides, there are no chemicals present to corrode or etch the wires. Even in a test involving exposure to 96 percent relative humidity, no noticeable electrolytic corrosion was detected.
Not recommended for use in abrasive environments without the protection of Inconel® overbraiding or a thermowell.
Nextel material is also used to insulate fuel cell interconnect wire see part number XTW-XT-NN-24 for fuel cell application details.
This material is intended for industrial applications only. In addition, Omega does not recommend this material for food, cosmetic, medical, or pharmaceutical use.
XC Nextel sleeving is NOT FOR EXPORT and is sold for USA use Only. Please consider using XS (silica material) as a substitute outside of the USA or consult OMEGA's Temperature Engineering Department.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I'll stick to what's proven, cheap, and on hand, for the purpose of vaping oils in an LL cart once in a while. If you're willing to spend more money, you'd be better off just getting an oil cart. I guarantee it'll work better.
As for having trouble getting the top cap off, that only happens for me when it's cold. Early on I did struggle with it and occasionally spilled the bowl when it would eventually pop free. Now I twist it clockwise (so as to not unscrew the cart) while pulling/wiggling carefully. Doesn't give me trouble anymore, just takes a little finesse.
When it's hot it tends to slide easily, like in my forest incident...
On second thought, are you using the black o-rings by chance? I've never tried them so I don't know if they behave differently.
As for having trouble getting the top cap off, that only happens for me when it's cold. Early on I did struggle with it and occasionally spilled the bowl when it would eventually pop free. Now I twist it clockwise (so as to not unscrew the cart) while pulling/wiggling carefully. Doesn't give me trouble anymore, just takes a little finesse.
When it's hot it tends to slide easily, like in my forest incident...
On second thought, are you using the black o-rings by chance? I've never tried them so I don't know if they behave differently.
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OF
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I'm sure we're all sorry for your loss. But rest assured a few centuries from now some future archeologist studying ancient hiking trails of the early settlers may well unearth it, wash it off and use it on his antique Cera........
Maybe even longer.
OF
Unconnected
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to remove the top cap twist it clockwise as if your unscrewing it from the unit, rather than pulling it straight up. If its hot use the silicone cap to keep your fingers cool while you twist. I have never had an issue when twisting it clockwise.
yeah, but, clockwise would be as if you are screwing in the unit, that is, tightening; "righty righty" -- "lefty loosey"
when I have tried to use the silicone to get a better grip, it just didn't work, it was a looser grip..maybe if my barrel were not so clean,
and had a little resin residue on it, it would work.... ?
when I have tried to use the silicone to get a better grip, it just didn't work, it was a looser grip..maybe if my barrel were not so clean,
and had a little resin residue on it, it would work.... ?
Just wondering of if you know of a possible release window for the new tv product? I got the new vape itch again