ogcook
Well-Known Member
Now, ever since you told us about the glass core I envisioned having one of your 14mm GonGs as the cover. Maybe set up something like the Cloud where you can fit a bowl into the core, or have a 14mm adapter that you pack.
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Both good ideas. Honestly I can't see what the HI is going to look like in 6 more months.
chimpybits
Well-Known Member
Whoa, I got THE email.
Vapinghole
Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
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chimpybits
Well-Known Member
Thanks all for the likes. I'll def share once in my hands.Fantastic, chimpylicious! Please share pics when ready. Need some HI-minded porn!
Now I just have to make some decisions: glass core vs ss, wood choice, and tubes. I'll def be picking up GonG and perhaps WonG. Also a VVPS - perhaps CentiZen's nice unit.
SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
moar HI porn please!!
lazylathe
Almost there...
Go for GLASS!!!
Hypno vaper
Well-Known Member
After a month of use here are the stems I use. I just cleaned them so you still see some water drops.
From left to right
Silicone/Glass turbo tube with glass nipple
Silicone Turbo Tube with glass nipple
Silicone Turbo Tube with glass nipple
All glass Turbo Tube with glass nipple
Just 1 of the many ways to use them.
Sorry I'm so quiet guys, I'm just trying to work my way through the thread from page 1, just soaking it all in. I also apologize for bringing up such an old post but I don't understand this concept. PB88123, I get the glass nipple on the roasting end, but why do you have silicone on the drawing/mouth end?
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Man...I own a HI and I'm still so excited about getting another that I had a dream about getting 'the e-mail' last night. Safe to say I was disappointed when I woke up.
Digeridoo
New Member
I got "THE EMAIL" today...
...that I have been put on the waiting list
I just ordered a different log vape (e-nano) but I suspect in 6+ months when my turn comes I'll be ready to try out something new!
I'm new to vaping but I'm already enamored with log style vapes in general. I've always been a fan of small devices that pack a punch, and I dig the clean traditional look of wood. It doesn't scream "WEIRD DIGITAL MMJ DEVICE" to the uninitiated if you leave it sitting out.
A few questions for you JedHI knights...
- My apologies in advance if I missed a post in this thread, but can somebody give a rundown of what roasting tubes are and how they affect the overall experience?
- I know getting a VVPS is preferable, but how well does it work on it's own?
You guys rock.
...that I have been put on the waiting list
I just ordered a different log vape (e-nano) but I suspect in 6+ months when my turn comes I'll be ready to try out something new!
I'm new to vaping but I'm already enamored with log style vapes in general. I've always been a fan of small devices that pack a punch, and I dig the clean traditional look of wood. It doesn't scream "WEIRD DIGITAL MMJ DEVICE" to the uninitiated if you leave it sitting out.
A few questions for you JedHI knights...
- My apologies in advance if I missed a post in this thread, but can somebody give a rundown of what roasting tubes are and how they affect the overall experience?
- I know getting a VVPS is preferable, but how well does it work on it's own?
You guys rock.
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Right now I use the HI with just a standard 12 volt plug in, no VVPS. It works fine if you want a heavy hitter. With both the 14mm GonG adapter and the Barbell setup (u-tube and turbo tube put together) I can get massive clouds through my 16 inch M&M tech beaker (a fairly big piece of glass to fill).
You can also provide a degree of temp adjustment on your own, especially with the silicone adapters (more so than the glass adapters) since you can more easily adjust screen depth and what angle the weed gets hit at.
Also, and update. After over a week with a GonG 14mm adapter and barbell, I find the barbell better for getting thick rips while the 14mm Gong is easier to use and much preferable when sharing the HI with a friend. Currently, I'm reaching for the 14mm GonG more often. But that is also because the top part my turbo tube broke in half thanks to a friend using it a bit recklessly. It still works, just something about the glass being damaged makes me use it less.
You can also provide a degree of temp adjustment on your own, especially with the silicone adapters (more so than the glass adapters) since you can more easily adjust screen depth and what angle the weed gets hit at.
Also, and update. After over a week with a GonG 14mm adapter and barbell, I find the barbell better for getting thick rips while the 14mm Gong is easier to use and much preferable when sharing the HI with a friend. Currently, I'm reaching for the 14mm GonG more often. But that is also because the top part my turbo tube broke in half thanks to a friend using it a bit recklessly. It still works, just something about the glass being damaged makes me use it less.
Now, ever since you told us about the glass core I envisioned having one of your 14mm GonGs as the cover. Maybe set up something like the Cloud where you can fit a bowl into the core, or have a 14mm adapter that you pack.
I have wanted to try 14mm GonG connection but would probably just use a purchased connection that I modify. Not sure the heating element would have enough power to heat the glass. May have to go with 110v. Possibly with the GTV I could have an option for either 18mm, 14mm, or 3/8" ss.
Here is a little bit of HI porn for everyone. It is another shot of the glass core HI. Purple Heart with some very old Purple Heart for a bottom cap. The roasting tube is also Purple Heart. I like the 1814mm WonG tube, but it can be a little long so I made a shorter version with a 13mm glass roasting tip. The silicone ring is to keep your fingers from touching the glass when it is hot.
PB88123
Vaporist
Hypno vaper
Well-Known Member
Here is a GIF showing how I use it. It creates a perfect seal.
Ahhhh, I see..... that is so cool. The way you can mismatch and switch up the pieces is incredible. Thank you very much for the image, couldn't have made it easier for me. Again, excuse me for bringing up such an old post, I'm working my way through the thread from page 1 so every now and then I may have a question about an old post. I hope the gang doesn't mind, I'm definitely not one of those who asks questions that have already been answered.
@ the JedHI's & other padawans like myself, please do tell me if I'm being annoying. I'm half way through the thread but I do have questions like this one:
@OhTheAgony: on page 80, post#1994 you stated, " People could also just use the regular PSU and a simple LED dimmer switch (just a few bucks on ebay) for the same effect."
Could you elaborate a little more on this concept please. I am a complete idiot when it comes to that kind of stuff. I kinda follow the idea, just trying to see in my mind how to connect the dimmer switch to the PSU. Also are you talking about the sliding lever and round knob dimmer switches? Thanks.
The Hypnotist
@OhTheAgony: never mind, I see the explanation a few pages later....I guess I am one of those people who does ask questions that have already been answered lol. I'll go crawl back into my hole and continue reading quietly now.
@moderators: sorry about the double post. By the time I saw ohtheagony's explanation it was too late for me to edit.
The Hypnotist
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Vapinghole
Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
Hypno vaper
Well-Known Member
HI everyone, I didn't realize I've never formerly introduced myself. I'm Hypno Vaper and...."I'm on the list". I've been reading through the thread and I contacted Alan as everyone suggested. I've been so busy bouncing around other threads finding vapes to play with until my name is called and reading through this thread, that I forgot to come back and formerly introduce myself. I must say that for the most part, the community has been pretty good in every thread I've been in but you guys are amazing. The energy here is radiating. I'm only on page 95 but I feel like I know all of you personally. And Mr. Alan is a true gem outside of this forum. His explanations and customer service are top notch. It's like going back and forth in emails with an old friend who's always on the same page as you.
P.S. Does anyone else feel kind of like a celebrity being on the "HI List"?
@Vapinghole: Thank the stars you finally got your Hi, you had me ready to jump off the balcony LoL, you are the funniest bro.
The Hypnotist
P.S. Does anyone else feel kind of like a celebrity being on the "HI List"?
@Vapinghole: Thank the stars you finally got your Hi, you had me ready to jump off the balcony LoL, you are the funniest bro.
The Hypnotist
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
I think it's because a lot of people that use the HI have A LOT of vape experience and we all just love what Alan has created.
The HI is truly a product of love and Alan only continues to show how much he loves what he has made. The guy seriously is one of the best in the business. He has made SO MANY DAMN ACCESSORIES this year.
The best thing to do is to look at the way the HI was made a year ago and how it is made today. That I think shows how passionate Alan is about the HI more than anything. Guy just wants to make a great vaping experience for everyone.
And damn, did he succeed.
The HI is truly a product of love and Alan only continues to show how much he loves what he has made. The guy seriously is one of the best in the business. He has made SO MANY DAMN ACCESSORIES this year.
The best thing to do is to look at the way the HI was made a year ago and how it is made today. That I think shows how passionate Alan is about the HI more than anything. Guy just wants to make a great vaping experience for everyone.
And damn, did he succeed.
chimpybits
Well-Known Member
I've been emailing Alan back-and-forth as I try to make some HI decisions. This is what Alan had to say about the comparison of glass vs. stainless steel core. Both were at 12 volts for each:
"With the stainless steel core, I can get maybe half of my lungs full of vapor before I feel the need to stop and fill them the rest of the way with room air. The vapor is much more dense. The hits are much more intense. You can get almost complete extraction to where the ABV is coffee brown. Combustion is possible if the screen is dirty or the air flow is too low. It can be a little beast. The stainless tube does get hot enough to cause a little ring shaped burn if you touch it. The ss roasting tubes can fit into the end of the ss core but not the glass core. All of my outside style roasting tubes will work with either the glass or stainless core. Stainless is very durable.
With the glass core, I can fill my lungs with much more of the vapor before I feel the need to stop and finish with some room air. The vapor is just less dense. As a result, you get more (weaker but tastier) hits from the glass core. It is almost hard to tell you are getting a hit until you breath out lungs full of vapor. The hits are more mellow and combustion is not possible. I discovered that you can turn a glass nipple around the other way and it will mate up to the end of the glass core. It gives a slightly smaller roasting chamber (8.5mm vs 10mm). You can touch the end of the glass core and not burn your finger. The air flow with the glass core is slower since it closes down slightly at the end. The glass is replaceable should it ever break. The only way I can see the glass breaking is if someone pries at the hole in the end. The material doesn't pack into the end of the tube very well so that should never be necessary. I expect that the wood will have a longer life with the glass core as less heat is conducted to the base of the wood".
Also, he's still working on the glass core.
"With the stainless steel core, I can get maybe half of my lungs full of vapor before I feel the need to stop and fill them the rest of the way with room air. The vapor is much more dense. The hits are much more intense. You can get almost complete extraction to where the ABV is coffee brown. Combustion is possible if the screen is dirty or the air flow is too low. It can be a little beast. The stainless tube does get hot enough to cause a little ring shaped burn if you touch it. The ss roasting tubes can fit into the end of the ss core but not the glass core. All of my outside style roasting tubes will work with either the glass or stainless core. Stainless is very durable.
With the glass core, I can fill my lungs with much more of the vapor before I feel the need to stop and finish with some room air. The vapor is just less dense. As a result, you get more (weaker but tastier) hits from the glass core. It is almost hard to tell you are getting a hit until you breath out lungs full of vapor. The hits are more mellow and combustion is not possible. I discovered that you can turn a glass nipple around the other way and it will mate up to the end of the glass core. It gives a slightly smaller roasting chamber (8.5mm vs 10mm). You can touch the end of the glass core and not burn your finger. The air flow with the glass core is slower since it closes down slightly at the end. The glass is replaceable should it ever break. The only way I can see the glass breaking is if someone pries at the hole in the end. The material doesn't pack into the end of the tube very well so that should never be necessary. I expect that the wood will have a longer life with the glass core as less heat is conducted to the base of the wood".
Also, he's still working on the glass core.
rotax
Zaporist
Good deal. I like 'small bowls', so the fact that the 'glass nipple' still works well w/ the glass core is a bonus.
At any rate, with a VVPS it sounds like the 'performance' can be dialed in regardless of core. By the sounds of it, the SS core would actually be too hot for me at 12v..
How does the glass core hold up to falls off the counter/table.....for those inevitable 'foot catches cord and pulls log onto floor' situations? I know, probably not something you want to test...
You HI users on the list for a 2nd unit, get a glass, let us know what you think.
At any rate, with a VVPS it sounds like the 'performance' can be dialed in regardless of core. By the sounds of it, the SS core would actually be too hot for me at 12v..
How does the glass core hold up to falls off the counter/table.....for those inevitable 'foot catches cord and pulls log onto floor' situations? I know, probably not something you want to test...
You HI users on the list for a 2nd unit, get a glass, let us know what you think.
Vapinghole
Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
You HI users on the list for a 2nd unit, get a glass, let us know what you think.
You got it! Anything for the JedHI Order.
@Alan - let it be known when I make the top of your list, I shall have a glass core. For science, of course.
chimpybits
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I'm not so sure of this. The ss core may inherently produce richer vapor in a way that can't be compensated for by v. Though I'm just guessing and more importantly, Alan is still experimenting with the glass core.
EDIT ... which suits me fine as I'm stalling deliberating woods.
I was added to the list in August. Time flies and it's already November. Seeing the glass cores is getting me amped for my turn. Starting to think more about woods. My gut is saying spalted maple.
@Vapinghole - Thanks so much. I will plan on an all glass core for you.
@Hypno vaper - You are too kind. Nice to be able to get everyone exactly what they want.
@Dr. Plutonious - Thanks. I am always trying to make it a better experience. It requires me to do a lot of testing though. Much happier with the HI design today. The wait will be much more worth it.
@PB88123 - Thanks for posting the GIF for the tube.
@chimpybits - Thanks for the post. That was my initial comparisons of the two cores. I am finding that the dark color of the heating element is doing too good of a job at emitting heat radiation through the glass and into the adjacent wood. Denser exotic woods can hold more heat and become uncomfortable to hold. Lighter woods can't hold enough heat. I need to change the color of the heating element so that it won't emit the heat radiation at such a high rate. Mirror silver would be the ultimate color to emit the least amount of heat radiation.
So I drilled out a 1/4" ss tube so it would slide right over the heating element to provide a radiant heat shield. The heating element wire holds it in place so it can't ever move. I installed it into a glass core in a Lignum Vitae wood body. It is the most dense wood that I have. The ss sleeve works very well to reduce the radiant heat transfer to the wood body. The ss sleeve also adds some thermal mass to the heating element. Since it is in direct contact, the transfer is very fast. So fast that it is producing vapor in 2 minutes with the fixed (12) volt power supply. The temperature / performance is somewhere between the ss core and the glass core. The air flow is a little less than either the glass or the ss core. I have not been able to get combustion with the HIbrid glass/ss core no matter how dirty the screen or low the air flow at 12 volts. The wood gets warm but is always comfortable to hold. The Lignum Vitae wood feels so good too. The taste is close to as good as the all glass core but can get much faster extraction. I am very happy with its performance.
@Hypno vaper - You are too kind. Nice to be able to get everyone exactly what they want.
@Dr. Plutonious - Thanks. I am always trying to make it a better experience. It requires me to do a lot of testing though. Much happier with the HI design today. The wait will be much more worth it.
@PB88123 - Thanks for posting the GIF for the tube.
@chimpybits - Thanks for the post. That was my initial comparisons of the two cores. I am finding that the dark color of the heating element is doing too good of a job at emitting heat radiation through the glass and into the adjacent wood. Denser exotic woods can hold more heat and become uncomfortable to hold. Lighter woods can't hold enough heat. I need to change the color of the heating element so that it won't emit the heat radiation at such a high rate. Mirror silver would be the ultimate color to emit the least amount of heat radiation.
So I drilled out a 1/4" ss tube so it would slide right over the heating element to provide a radiant heat shield. The heating element wire holds it in place so it can't ever move. I installed it into a glass core in a Lignum Vitae wood body. It is the most dense wood that I have. The ss sleeve works very well to reduce the radiant heat transfer to the wood body. The ss sleeve also adds some thermal mass to the heating element. Since it is in direct contact, the transfer is very fast. So fast that it is producing vapor in 2 minutes with the fixed (12) volt power supply. The temperature / performance is somewhere between the ss core and the glass core. The air flow is a little less than either the glass or the ss core. I have not been able to get combustion with the HIbrid glass/ss core no matter how dirty the screen or low the air flow at 12 volts. The wood gets warm but is always comfortable to hold. The Lignum Vitae wood feels so good too. The taste is close to as good as the all glass core but can get much faster extraction. I am very happy with its performance.