The Dr Dabber Pen

P666R said:

just got through a friday evening dinner rush.
id guess 3-6 heads per table
8 tables flipped 4 times over.
stressful night made better went through a gram of amber shatter between 3.
been skipping over the ten second cycle by holding down 6 then 6 then 6 then hitting through the full cycle. do not know how good it is for the pen but it seems to take it like a champ.
any word of really how bad it is bad for coils>?

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How are you (and others) loading your Dr. Dabber? As in, how much oil loaded at a time, and placed where? I put in a useable amount, like a hit to several hits worth, so it sits on the coil and soaks into the wick. This keeps the mess down for me, and lets me vape away everything in a few hits, leaving a completely clean empty bowl. I've yet to just throw a bunch of shatter or oil in, as I don't know how well the stuff in the bottom of the ceramic cup would vape, etc.

So, is anyone doing just that and loading it right up? Anyone want to post a picture of when there bowl looks like freshly loaded?

Just curious...if I can thrown in enough to fill the bottom of the cup say, or at least significantly more than I'm using now, that would be neat! But I am fine using it how I am currently.

Also, should one be careful to keep oil from going down through the air inlet (in the center, below the coil?) hole? I would think this could be an issue when filling it up, or overfilling...but I haven't had any problems yet, using the small amounts at a time that I do.

Purpl3_Haz3 said:

How are you (and others) loading your Dr. Dabber? As in, how much oil loaded at a time, and placed where? I put in a useable amount, like a hit to several hits worth, so it sits on the coil and soaks into the wick. This keeps the mess down for me, and lets me vape away everything in a few hits, leaving a completely clean empty bowl. I've yet to just throw a bunch of shatter or oil in, as I don't know how well the stuff in the bottom of the ceramic cup would vape, etc.

So, is anyone doing just that and loading it right up? Anyone want to post a picture of when there bowl looks like freshly loaded?

Just curious...if I can thrown in enough to fill the bottom of the cup say, or at least significantly more than I'm using now, that would be neat! But I am fine using it how I am currently.

Also, should one be careful to keep oil from going down through the air inlet (in the center, below the coil?) hole? I would think this could be an issue when filling it up, or overfilling...but I haven't had any problems yet, using the small amounts at a time that I do.

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I think the shatter sits on top more and won't pool like oil. I do it more like you. I pack it pretty loose with crumble and then move it with a toothpick toward tyhe coil as it is vaped off over multiple hits. I might put a little more in but after that I wash it out with iso. Even that much builds up enough resin to harsh out the taste for me. Others don't seem to care.
I noticed that the heater won't hold iso but haven't seen a hole per se. Personally I don't want anything to pool

Space Case said:

I think the shatter sits on top more and won't pool like oil. I do it more like you. I pack it pretty loose with crumble and then move it with a toothpick toward tyhe coil as it is vaped off over multiple hits. I might put a little more in but after that I wash it out with iso. Even that much builds up enough resin to harsh out the taste for me. Others don't seem to care.
I noticed that the heater won't hold iso but haven't seen a hole per se. Personally I don't want anything to pool

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the hole is directly underneath the coil/wick, in the center of the piece of ceramic that sticks up under the coil. It's hardly visible in some coils, others, the coil is at an angle and the hole is both more visible, and I guess prone to spillage in it.

I don't pack it loose and move it, rather take an actual dab, or chunk, and place it on the coil...then I pulse the heater ever so slightly to melt it down. Then When I vape it, it doesn't go anywhere, so I don't get the resin buildup.

Now, if I packed shatter in around the coil, and heated it, it would eventually melt down into the bowl...I'm just wondering if this can be vaped away or not. But, it seems like if people are having to clean away residue, there is no way to just vape it away...unless you contain it to the coil/wick and keep it off of the sides to begin with. Regardless, you can just scrape up the residue, and gather it to place it back on the coil...the ceramic should be easy enough to scrape with the right dabber, or even the included tool!

I don't see how this design could really be improved at all...It just works so damn well! Aside from the Cloud at home, I've been using this pen all the time! It's been my bedtime device, morning, on the go, etc. I charge it every night, and it's never actually died on me!

Purpl3_Haz3 said:

How are you (and others) loading your Dr. Dabber? As in, how much oil loaded at a time, and placed where? I put in a useable amount, like a hit to several hits worth, so it sits on the coil and soaks into the wick. This keeps the mess down for me, and lets me vape away everything in a few hits, leaving a completely clean empty bowl. I've yet to just throw a bunch of shatter or oil in, as I don't know how well the stuff in the bottom of the ceramic cup would vape, etc.

So, is anyone doing just that and loading it right up? Anyone want to post a picture of when there bowl looks like freshly loaded?

Just curious...if I can thrown in enough to fill the bottom of the cup say, or at least significantly more than I'm using now, that would be neat! But I am fine using it how I am currently.

Also, should one be careful to keep oil from going down through the air inlet (in the center, below the coil?) hole? I would think this could be an issue when filling it up, or overfilling...but I haven't had any problems yet, using the small amounts at a time that I do.

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Purpl3_Haz3 said:

the hole is directly underneath the coil/wick, in the center of the piece of ceramic that sticks up under the coil. It's hardly visible in some coils, others, the coil is at an angle and the hole is both more visible, and I guess prone to spillage in it.

I don't pack it loose and move it, rather take an actual dab, or chunk, and place it on the coil...then I pulse the heater ever so slightly to melt it down. Then When I vape it, it doesn't go anywhere, so I don't get the resin buildup.

Now, if I packed shatter in around the coil, and heated it, it would eventually melt down into the bowl...I'm just wondering if this can be vaped away or not. But, it seems like if people are having to clean away residue, there is no way to just vape it away...unless you contain it to the coil/wick and keep it off of the sides to begin with. Regardless, you can just scrape up the residue, and gather it to place it back on the coil...the ceramic should be easy enough to scrape with the right dabber, or even the included tool!

I don't see how this design could really be improved at all...It just works so damn well! Aside from the Cloud at home, I've been using this pen all the time! It's been my bedtime device, morning, on the go, etc. I charge it every night, and it's never actually died on me!

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Yep, this is how I do it too. I take a dab (useable amount as you say) and place it directly on the coil. If it's having troubling sticking to the coil, then I pulse it.

I've been doing this in particular since putting on a new coil (not Ti yet) in order to keep the cup clean - which I do feel affects the taste. After several dabs on the new coil, I found oil began to appear in the cup (especially the sides). I check it after every dab and if necessary carefully scrape up and off the oil buildup along the sides using a toothpick. So far, I've been finding it helps and my dabs still taste good.

I do also invert the pen and move it this way and that in an effort to burn off more of this leftover oil. However, I don't think it's an effective way to get at the oil and I also think loading it right up, as you say, would also not be the most effective method. I think if one periodically opened it up and scooped up the product onto the coil it would help. I know that one shouldn't "flood" the heater by allowing the oil level to reach the bottom of the coil. But I would think short of this, and with occasional scooping/scraping, it would be alright.

Myself I'm liking the dab at a time - placed on the coil.

EDIT. Also, I'm finding shatter the easiest to deal with. I bust it up using parchment paper to hold it, and using my fingers, place a small piece on the coil sometimes rolling between the fingers to shape it. I've tried some waxes, butters, and shatters. I might try some water extracted full-melt next.

This^^^^

I even sometimes take several small dabs and pulse them into the wick/coil, leaving one setting on top, slightly melted in, to have quite a few hits ready to go...but I haven't gone with more than that yet...

Once I get another heater, I'll fill one up a bit and see how it goes. Until then, it's one for sativa, one for indica.

How are you cleaning your coils? Are you just dropping it in ISO? Doesn't that cause the ISO to soak into the wick? I only got the one coil so I don't want to damage it.

Meeem said:

How are you cleaning your coils? Are you just dropping it in ISO? Doesn't that cause the ISO to soak into the wick? I only got the one coil so I don't want to damage it.

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Yes, and yes. I soaked one overnight in a small container of ISO, and yes, of course the wick absorbed it...And then I rinsed it with clean ISO, a few times, and let it dry thoroughly. Once completely dried ( I waited several hours. Once it was as dry as it seemed like it was gonna get, put the coil on the pen, and I pulsed the power to finish drying it. It sizzled when doing so, until it was all gone. Clean and brand new looking! (not that it really got very dirty....but I used some trim oil in it for giggles and it didn't vape so cleanly)

I'd recommend that you wait as long as possible for it to dry, and don't rely on using the pen to heat away the remaining moisture...seems like it's most definitely not good for the heater, but done carefully I don't see an immediate danger.

When i tried to do this with a G-pen coil there was always a nasty burn off, even after i left it drying for a few days. Didn't want to risk my health hitting that vape so I just tossed the coil. Wouldn't want to do that here. What makes this different?

Meeem said:

When i tried to do this with a G-pen coil there was always a nasty burn off, even after i left it drying for a few days. Didn't want to risk my health hitting that vape so I just tossed the coil. Wouldn't want to do that here. What makes this different?

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I don't know. I haven't used a G-Pen other than hitting it, haven't cleaned one. I know that I just did this and had no nasty burn off...my guess as to why you got one would be either A: You didn't get it clean enough, leaving a combo of resin/ISO to be burnt off...nasty. B: You got it cleaned out, leaving only ISO behind, but you used an ISO that has more than just ISO + Water in it...leaving something else to burn off...nasty C: You just didn't wait long enough for the ISO to evap, so when you went to burn off the little bit left, there was a lot left...this will also be unappealing.

End of the story though, IMO at least, is that if you are using something that is just a ceramic cup, and a coil wrapped around a wick, and you clean it out thoroughly with ISO, all that should be left to burn off is ISO if anything...ISO will evap away on it's own in ideal conditions, given time...but some may inevitably remain due to the nature of the wick. If so, you can get it out with more heat; either from the coil itself, or elsewhere (oven, etc) But essentially, if there was something left burning off that was nasty, it came from the Gpen, the oil that didn't get cleaned out so well, or subpar quality ISO.


If you soak the coil from your DDghost, and let it soak long enough to get all of the buildup out (even where you can't see it) and you rinse it a few times with fresh ISO, and then let it dry thoroughly, it shouldn't produce anything nasty when heated...as you didn't introduce anything nasty

Edit* Sorry if that came across less than nice...but no one can really answer that question but you. You know what was in the pen to begin with, you know what was introduced to clean it, and you cleaned it...I doubt that anyone here will have a better guess than you as to what is causing the nastyness...but I'd guess it's probably something I mentioned above...Or, something in the G-Pen's coil degrades when ISO is introduced, causing a reaction or something?

Meeem said:

How are you cleaning your coils? Are you just dropping it in ISO? Doesn't that cause the ISO to soak into the wick? I only got the one coil so I don't want to damage it.

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get more coils. rotate them so you have one to use while the other dries. Use 91% iso. I soak it face down in a shallow bath changing the alcohol once after soaking a few hours.

Purpl3_Haz3 said:

I don't see how this design could really be improved at all...

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you mean except no wick?

Space Case said:

you mean except no wick?

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That's a new design I'm talking about wick and coil based oil vapes

I can do a full review later today. Just sitting down to the first proper sesh.

Had a chance to try out a Dr. Dabber. It handled pretty much like I thought, smooth clouds and delivered a nice clean taste. Stealthy yet, performed like champ in a little group action.

The Dr. Dabber has handled every thing it's been fed so far, wax honeycomb/crumble/wax/shatter. The honeycomb we used was a tad sticky, and had to be coaxed back onto the coils with a toothpick, similar to others that have this type of atomizer. We used one of the original and one of the titanium ones. Both worked very well in regards to taste and vapor production, and I personally could not differentiate between the two. That's not to say anyone else won't. It's nice to know they upgraded to titanium nonetheless, and I think it's probably more for making those coils better quality than it is for changing the taste. Either way, the titanium is a win and there is no added cost to buy the titanium atomizers(I have seen some shadier places online do just that).

Overall very nice performance from the new guy on the block. There are only a couple concentrate style pens I would recommend to my friends, the Dr. Dabber has now been added to that list.

taking some thoughts in.
soaking for about 6-12 hrs in 99 iso.
drying for longer? would a hot water bath with a cleaning pick be good for after

P666R said:

taking some thoughts in.
soaking for about 6-12 hrs in 99 iso.
drying for longer? would a hot water bath with a cleaning pick be good for after

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My point with the long soak is to avoid having to use any kind of pick or dabber to do manual cleaning. I figure that soaking in ISO can't really do any damage, where as poking and scraping, one would be likely to nick a lead on the coil, or something, and do damage. I think that leaving it submerged in ISO (91%) overnight, and then rinsing it with more fresh ISO, should get it back to clean. If not, I don't see how a hot water bath could hurt...

There are two ways to finish off the process though, either with a final ISO rinse, or a final water rinse. With a final ISO rinse, one will likely see a quicker drying period, as ISO will evap easier and quicker than water. But, if one tries to use the unit prematurely, they'll get a nasty ISO burn off. It's fine once it's actually burnt off, but in the meantime it smells. If you finish off with a water rinse, you will have to wait longer for it to naturally evaporate away, but if you got antsy and decided to use the heat of the coil to evap the water away, it wouldn't have the nasty smell that ISO would.

Ideally though, you should wait for whatever is used to rinse it out to evap on it's own completely or as much as possible before applying power. Also, it shouldn't matter what combo of water/ISO you use, so long as you get the buildup out, and IMO, without using any kind of tool to scrape, etc. If you have to scrape it off of the visible areas, there's a good chance that the ISO hasn't got the resin from the non visible areas...SOOO, if you wait until the visible resin has been taken care of just by the ISO, it's pretty fair to say that the resin that's hiding has been absorbed as well...

Found out the one disadvantage of the Dr. Dabbler today...because of it's small size it slips unnoticed out of your pocket quite easily...
To keep it clean here,see http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/fuck-you.10554/page-58#post-480419

That is a real bummer Havelock.

Purpl3_Haz3 said:

Yes, and yes. I soaked one overnight in a small container of ISO, and yes, of course the wick absorbed it...And then I rinsed it with clean ISO, a few times, and let it dry thoroughly. Once completely dried ( I waited several hours. Once it was as dry as it seemed like it was gonna get, put the coil on the pen, and I pulsed the power to finish drying it. It sizzled when doing so, until it was all gone. Clean and brand new looking! (not that it really got very dirty....but I used some trim oil in it for giggles and it didn't vape so cleanly)

I'd recommend that you wait as long as possible for it to dry, and don't rely on using the pen to heat away the remaining moisture...seems like it's most definitely not good for the heater, but done carefully I don't see an immediate danger.

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Really? You soak the entire heater in ISO overnight? This must affect the rubbery plastic coating?

I do have to agree though with the advice to avoid too much manual cleaning. It's easy to take it too far and pull at the wick threads. So, ISO soak appeals, but ...

Havelock Vetenari said:

Found out the one disadvantage of the Dr. Dabbler today...because of it's small size it slips unnoticed out of your pocket quite easily...
To keep it clean here,see http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/fuck-you.10554/page-58#post-480419

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Ouch. That so sucks. (Good thing we have that fuck-you thread just for this though).

chimpybits said:

Really? You soak the entire heater in ISO overnight? This must affect the rubbery plastic coating?

I do have to agree though with the advice to avoid too much manual cleaning. It's easy to take it too far and pull at the wick threads. So, ISO soak appeals, but ...

Havelock Vetenari said:

Found out the one disadvantage of the Dr. Dabbler today...because of it's small size it slips unnoticed out of your pocket quite easily...
To keep it clean here,see http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/fuck-you.10554/page-58#post-480419

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Ouch. That so sucks. (Good thing we have that fuck-you thread just for this though).

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Yes, I soaked a heater, completely submerged in 91% ISO, for well over 10 hours straight; and I noticed no degradation of the awesome black rubbery outer coating of the heater. I just checked, and I cannot tell the difference between the heater that has been soaked and the one that has not...

As for the slippery sleekness of the DDGhost, I have to agree, it can be a negative if not mindful! My condolences to you @Havelock Vetenari! I can only imagine being without my newly acquired friend...rather vivdly albeit, but still. I hope you get a replacement figured out soon!

I got out of the car a few evenings ago, and as I stood up out of the car, I felt the sudden urge to carefully scour the ground for the pen. Just after exiting the car I recalled that when I got into the car to head home, I had sat the pen in my lap rather than put it away (first mistake lol.) So I immediately looked down, and started to search...to no avail seeing as how it was pitch black out, and my porch light doesn't quite reach to where I was. So I turned on the light from my phone, and within 15 seconds the pen was jumping out at me, inches in front of my feet. Mind you, I had taken several steps forward/backward getting out of the car, and looking around for the pen before grabbing the light; How I managed to not step on the pen I will never know, but forever be grateful lol.

Moral of that being, had I not happened to think "oh, the pen was in my lap...it probably fell on the ground when I got out...I better look!" I wouldn't have noticed until I went to medicate, probably at least 30 minutes later and I would have likely not found the pen...at least not easily! The area I dropped it in wouldn't be easy to find it in had I not been standing right there...it all worked out so perfect. So, take my almost disaster, and Havelock Vetenari's full blown loss as precautionary tales, and keep your DDghost close at hand, or in a secure location!

Retraced my route twice already and no joy.
Might be because i lost it in the woods in a code red weather alert...
Not all is lost though,thankfully i already had an extra battery and a globe,so it's still in operation.
I just like it much better with the normal mouthpiece(and the slightly bigger atomisers!),so i'll get a new one of those shortly.

As an aside my last order to the Netherlands was here in 10/11 days again,very nice indeed!
Although this time the custompeople saw fit to charge me some importduties on it this time,which they didn't last time...
Seems like it's a bit of pot luck whether or not they charge you import duties on overseas postal orders here in general,i at least haven't yet been able to find a logical pattern in this anyway...

urijah710og said:

WOW... Literally just checked the mail to find an empty half opened envelope where I'm guessing my dr.dabber used to be? I actually saw the mail dude driving down the street and had him check his truck but he said nothing fell out. So now I'm stuck with this empty envelope and no Dr. Dabber... agh

tried calling the post office but no ones answering so I'm guessing they closed at 4...

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urijah710og said:

lol still nothing in the mail today.. guessing dude forgot to ship it when he said he would.. aghhh

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UPDATE: Does anyone here actually work for the DR? Mvapes(bless his heart) said he'd handle my situation since the DR. hasn't responded to any of my emails since the 17th! Mvapes said he'd have my order to me by today(tuesday) and well the mail came and went and nothing arrived! This is beyond ridiculous as my original order was placed on the 14th!! I literally live 3.5hrs from where they're being shipped! Hopefully it will arrive tom.. edit: I should note mvapes has been nothing but helpful, I appreciate everything you're doing to make this right.

urijah710og said:

UPDATE: Does anyone here actually work for the DR? Mvapes(bless his heart) said he'd handle my situation since the DR. hasn't responded to any of my emails since the 17th! Mvapes said he'd have my order to me by today(tuesday) and well the mail came and went and nothing arrived! This is beyond ridiculous as my original order was placed on the 14th!! I literally live 3.5hrs from where they're being shipped! Hopefully it will arrive tom.. edit: I should note mvapes has been nothing but helpful, I appreciate everything you're doing to make this right.

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Urijah, I apologize I have been out of town at a trade show and my computer broke 1/2 way through the trip.. I am sorry you received an open package, and I will be happy to replace it. I beleive Mvapes said he sent you one out today, thank you for that by the way. I also apologize for the lack of communication during the last week and will do my best to make it up to you guys. Also all orders that have been shipped as of the last week have been including tracking in an email and will continue to do so on all items shipped.
If anyone has any questions please let me know. I do my best to help everyone here. Again sorry Urijah

P.S All globes are now being shipped with Titanium coils as well!

Holy shit batman,order'd mine on Friday the 25th,and got it today WOW I,m 3000 miles from Florida,Washington state --can not wait to try it out,after giving it a good trial I,ll report back.Thanks Dr.Dabber for the quick delivery.----Watsuni1

Dr.Dabber said:

P.S All globes are now being shipped with Titanium coils as well!

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That's very interesting as i've found out you can use just the outer part of the Globe attachment(ie the Globe itself) to hold over a normal atomiser...
As that does require you holding it somewhat akwardly(but it does make an airtightseal),it's not an perfect solution by far,but i do like that combo much better for the bigger atomiser-'well'.
So my question would be if it's only the coil that's changed and it's still a little smaller?
A globe which would fit over a normal atty might be worthy of checking out as an addition to the accessories?
I know i would love that!

What purpose does the globe serve? I'm just curious.