Dogman
Vaporist Extrordinair
Noticed that you have a GLV2, how do you like it?
Vaporbrothers Dabbler & Eleven Pen
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Noticed that you have a GLV2, how do you like it?
Patrick Hughes
Stoneman
It is so tight. You have to wait like 3 weeks for your unit, but is is rock solid and worth every penny. The Customer service is awesome.
You see this terrifying monster? http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaporbrothers-vb2.11225/
Or the price, 250-300$ for a cera EO. 699 for a VB2
Vaporbrothers introduced a sort of wickless heater for the Dabbler at Champs this week, dubbed "Ceramic Core Heater". It uses a ceramic rod in place of the glass fiber wick. Like the glass fiber wick heaters, there is still an inconel coil wrapped around the ceramic rod.
Unfortunately, the coil can still suffer the same amount of damage from improper use as the heaters with the glass fiber. This heater is for those that don't want a fiber wick.
Price and release date should be announced shortly.
Sorry about the blurry photo. And yes for those of you wondering, it is similar to the UP Tech K.I.S.S. cart heater. Although in a side by side comparison, the UP Tech ceramic rod looked yellow. That was the only noticeable difference other than the obvious thread and body size.
We were given a beta ceramic core heater by Vape Pen several months ago to test. So I can definitely say this was in the works before UP tech announced theirs. But which came first the chicken or the egg? I'll let you guys debate that, I'm staying out of any debates.
darkrom
Great Scott!
Vaporbrothers introduced a sort of wickless heater for the Dabbler at Champs this week, dubbed "Ceramic Core Heater". It uses a ceramic rod in place of the glass fiber wick. Like the glass fiber wick heaters, there is still an inconel coil wrapped around the ceramic rod.
Unfortunately, the coil can still suffer the same amount of damage from improper use as the heaters with the glass fiber. This heater is for those that don't want a fiber wick.
Price and release date should be announced shortly.
Sorry about the blurry photo. And yes for those of you wondering, it is similar to the UP Tech K.I.S.S. cart heater. Although in a side by side comparison, the UP Tech ceramic rod looked yellow. That was the only noticeable difference other than the obvious thread and body size.
We were given a beta ceramic core heater by Vape Pen several months ago to test. So I can definitely say this was in the works before UP tech announced theirs. But which came first the chicken or the egg? I'll let you guys debate that, I'm staying out of any debates.
This is basically exactly what I'm after. Its really just the wicks that I don't trust in these vapes. Problem solved right here. Any idea what kind of ceramic it is? I know I'm splitting hairs I'm just curious. Any ceramic > fiberglass or silica.
OF
Well-Known Member
I understand this is the common opinion, but I just don't understand what the advantage of Aluminum Oxides (ceramic) have over Silicon Oxides (glass). Neither is toxic, or likely to slough off harmful dust AFAIK. There's certainly no concern with glass in the normal form.
In normal safety (medical) terms they're both benign materials in this application I think?
I understand that some makers have long used the silica wicks to slam their competition's products, I'd hate to think there's no better reason for fear them than marketing hype?
Anyone have any objective studies or reports on the topic? I couldn't find any.
Whatever core is used, I think there's a serious advantage to it being porous to hold the goods. Solid cores are used in Revolution/DART but are no use in retaining oils.
I'm open to trying ceramic cores, of course, I just don't see a big problem with current wicks.....unless your competitor is using them?
OF
SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
This has been on my mind, as well. Seems the EO would just drip right down the solid ceramic element, onto the base of the crucible... The ceramic element/coil needs to be at the very bottom of the crucible, maybe even embedded somehow. This would allow for more of the EO to be utilized. Airflow could be moved to accommodate the lower heating element. Just my hi flyin
The ceramic rod is porous.
Much like the ceramic screens for the Vaporbrothers EZ Change Whips and ceramic rod for the Dabbler heater, my personal preference is for their counter parts.
These ceramic parts were created for people that wanted certain elements eliminated from the air path or heater.
As for what type of ceramic, I'm not sure, maybe Linus can enlighten us.
Much like the ceramic screens for the Vaporbrothers EZ Change Whips and ceramic rod for the Dabbler heater, my personal preference is for their counter parts.
These ceramic parts were created for people that wanted certain elements eliminated from the air path or heater.
As for what type of ceramic, I'm not sure, maybe Linus can enlighten us.
OF
Well-Known Member
Choice is good for the marketplace. We all benefit from more options I think.
Thanks for responding to the demand....and the questions.
OF
Vitolo
Vaporist
Cleaning and maintaining the unit's integrity for longevity is the main advantage.
When the meniscus of your oils reduce time and time again, the skin that forms becomes scablike and requires actual "plucking" along with solvent cleaning. The needle can be dragged along the coils thread, as if it were in the thread of a screw...
but repeated instances of this deep cleaning "bites" away at the silica strands/rods.... and eventually your wick is pretty damaged.
Ceramic takes a lickin' -- and keeps on tickin'... and heat helps clean residues off of the ceramic!
I think you mean the Hercules SR71 not the K.I.S.S. carts.
OF
Well-Known Member
Rebuildability is an interesting point. If you look carefully you'll notice the heater coil is three pieces welded together. There's the heat producing part in the center (makes the coils) and non heat producing leads down through the base.
The KISS seems to be made the easier way, one continuous piece of NiChrome? This means battery robbing heat is being produced where we can't use it but it does make it cheaper and easier to make and makes owner rebuilds possible (even if not practical) I think?
Once again, we get useful choices in the market.....most cool.
Actually G posted a photo of a KISS cart pulled apart and made the link to rebuildable.
OF
bruno13
insomniac
No, G states in the persi thread the kiss is rebuildable.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/t...bs-and-concentrates.4873/page-569#post-477957
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poonman
Well-Known Member
Where did you hear the price for the VB2 ? ( $ 699 )
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaporbrothers-vb2.11225/
Can you confirm the price for the VB2 ?
tia
Thank you for pointing that out. I haven't had time this week to read through all the chatter on the various threads. BTW being an old prog fan I love your icon image.
Starting price is $699. Let's save the VB2 chat for the VB2 thread. I will confirm the price in there.
SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
Very informative reply concerning the ceramic and its porus properties, thanks Vitolo and VW.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
link?? VB2 is to hard to search
Sorry about that, it was posted in #653, so I didn't repost it. Here you go.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vaporbrothers-vb2.11225/
Is the rod/coil of the ceramic rod any lower down in heater then the silica version? It looks a little lower in the picture... I would love that if so...Vaporbrothers introduced a sort of wickless heater for the Dabbler at Champs this week, dubbed "Ceramic Core Heater". It uses a ceramic rod in place of the glass fiber wick. Like the glass fiber wick heaters, there is still an inconel coil wrapped around the ceramic rod.
Unfortunately, the coil can still suffer the same amount of damage from improper use as the heaters with the glass fiber. This heater is for those that don't want a fiber wick.
Price and release date should be announced shortly.
Sorry about the blurry photo. And yes for those of you wondering, it is similar to the UP Tech K.I.S.S. cart heater. Although in a side by side comparison, the UP Tech ceramic rod looked yellow. That was the only noticeable difference other than the obvious thread and body size.
We were given a beta ceramic core heater by Vape Pen several months ago to test. So I can definitely say this was in the works before UP tech announced theirs. But which came first the chicken or the egg? I'll let you guys debate that, I'm staying out of any debates.
We will have to let Linus answer that one. I only have access to one of the beta heaters and the rod appears to be a bit higher than the rod in the photo I took above.
Here's a photo I took of the beta heater we have been testing. Obviously this was taken before we started testing it.
The one at the show and pictured above came from the production batch.
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