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clouded vision

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that wouldn't work, even in the top picture the bubbler isn't doing anything. Notice the water level is below the top of the showerhead cuts so the bottom bubbler isn't doing anything except taking up space.
what you want is something like this
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11eleven11

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Yeah good point. Now that I pay closer attention, what's making it work inversely in the 1st pic is the downstem he has in there. So I guess the fritted bub would need a similar downstem setup to work properly.

Hmm well I wish there was a fritted setup that would allow me to do everything in this video:


I like smoother hits so I prefer good diffusion, and I'm really considering getting a fritted piece for the VXL Evo. That in conjunction with a hydratube would be nice. Maybe a lot of flavor will be lost, but I like non-irritating hits that catch as much debris as possible.
 

clouded vision

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Take a closer look, it isn't working at all. there isn't a downstem coming from the VXC notice how there is vapor in the bubbler but there are absolutely no bubbles in it. Basically it is like an extra air chamber, the only thing it is really doing to diluting the hit with all the extra air you have to pull through before the hit starts

If the mouthpiece joint on the fritted bub is really 45° though you could use a 45° male to male adapter then put the HT on to but that's a lot of expensive glass that wouldn't be very stable
 
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11eleven11

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I'm confused. I agree that there isn't a downstem coming from the VXC and the showerhead is not operational, but there is a downstem going into the top of the bubbler (shown at 3:02), and inside that downstem water is moving around, meaning there is some kind of filtration going on. Right?
 
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clouded vision

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ok I didn't see the downstem before. I think that would add a ton of extra drag though. Basically you are sucking the water up into the bottom chamber of the HT then you start a little extra diffusion. at the very beginning the water in the bub does move but it is just displaced into the HT until the vapor can flow freely through bub. If you are looking for extra diffusion and want to hook s HT up to that fritted bub I would ask Sam to make a custom mouthpiece joint like that picture I posted above ( which is from @Nevertheless1090 classified ad, gotta give credit where credit is due). That way all the perc you paid for is getting used.
 

SD_haze

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Question for you guys.

Can you do this:

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With this:

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So where the mouthpiece is on the fritted, can you put the vaporizer on it and have a hydratube on the top, like the above? Or would the fritted perc not work inversely like that?

PS, awesome vids guys.
If im understanding, no it would not. You would just suck up water through the middle tube in the fritter.

EDIT didn't see the other posts
 

Deadshort480

We're here to fuck shit up.
It wouldn't really work because there is no perc at the end of the downtube. You'd basically just be sucking in a bunch of water with no percolation. BUT! You can use an angled male male adapter at the mouthpiece and use the hydratube as the mouthpiece. I've done this with the PNWT, but it is completely unnecessary as the fritted disk and water already diffuses and moistens the vapor perfectly without any other additions. That's why I don't even use a downstem and water in my ashcatcher. It's basically there to trap all the particles that would get trapped in the frit.

I've taken massively huge hits with zero harshness with this setup. You can also add a Vapor Tamer as the mouthpiece and it cools the hit down to a frosty rush of air. You won't even realize you took a gargantuan hit!
 
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11eleven11

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You are a goddamn genius. A vapor tamer is an awesome idea!

So..... I'm likely to get one of these. GBD Fritted T2P Dewaar or GBD Showerhead? What are your opinions, deadshort, since you own both? I'm sure you like them for different functions. As someone who prefers very smooth, well-filtered, non-irritating vapor hits, I'm definitely leaning on this GBD Fritted T2P.

I've been searching through this thread for both and reading posts on them. Seems like they are both pretty good. I like the size and shape of the GBD Showerhead.
 
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Deadshort480

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They are both about the same size. I believe the Showerhead is a 65mm can and the Fritted Dewaar is a 60mm can. The Showerhead has the cool bulge at the base. My Showerhead is a bit chuggy, but the drag is near non existent. The Showerhead offers a bit more flavor, but large hits can still feel the slightest bit harsh. With an ashcatcher that has a perc the hit is smoothed out even more, and the flavor doesn't suffer as much. Because of the low drag it is harder for me to really milk the Showerhead without an ashcatcher to add more resistance. Once an AC is added, I can milk the shit out of the Showerhead.

The fritted can is my favorite of all my pieces. As I said, I can rip just fuckin ridiculously huge clouds out of that thing with nothing more than a single cough afterwards. There is just enough drag and resistance that it milks really well on its own. My only gripe is that I find you need an AC to catch any particulate that may get through. Without something to catch the debris the frit clogs and can create too much drag. If you use an AC then I recommend no water so that you aren't filtering out even more flavor. The other thing I love about the fritted Dewaar is that there is only the slightest moment of chug before there is absolutely zero. At that point it feels as though you are only pulling through the frit itself without water. It is a very cool thing to experience after using a stemless fritted piece which usually glug glug glugs as you hit it. Add the vapor tamer and it really feels as though you are simply breathing in cold air.

I love the fritted piece, but it is more expensive than the Showerhead, which is an awesome bubbler (I think a couple are being sold in the Classifieds even cheaper right now!). I can definitely feel the difference in harshness between the two, but the difference is not major. As far as I'm concerned you need the AC for the Frit which adds even more to the cost. I also feel that an AC adds to the experience of the Showerjead because it helps with that last bit of harshness from monster hits. Both have removable mouthpieces so you can add a vapor tamer to either, but the Showerhead uses a 14mm joint for the mouthpiece which means you'd need a 14mm-->19mm adapter which I would suggest getting at a 30 degree angle to raise the mouthpiece (personal preference).

Overall, they are both great bubblers, but I reach for the Frit 9 times out of 10.

Edit: I can say this for sure. When it comes to using vapes that have no or very little resistance on the draw, I prefer the Frit. If I'm using a vape that offers moderate to heavy resistance in the draw, I prefer the Showerhead.

Edit 2: some videos featuring a Vapor Tamer and a PNWT.
 
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11eleven11

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^ Suck on a mouthpiece? Yes I think I can do that. :ko:

They are both about the same size. I believe the Showerhead is a 65mm can and the Fritted Dewaar is a 60mm can. The Showerhead has the cool bulge at the base. My Showerhead is a bit chuggy, but the drag is near non existent. The Showerhead offers a bit more flavor, but large hits can still feel the slightest bit harsh. With an ashcatcher that has a perc the hit is smoothed out even more, and the flavor doesn't suffer as much. Because of the low drag it is harder for me to really milk the Showerhead without an ashcatcher to add more resistance. Once an AC is added, I can milk the shit out of the Showerhead.

The fritted can is my favorite of all my pieces. As I said, I can rip just fuckin ridiculously huge clouds out of that thing with nothing more than a single cough afterwards. There is just enough drag and resistance that it milks really well on its own. My only gripe is that I find you need an AC to catch any particulate that may get through. Without something to catch the debris the frit clogs and can create too much drag. If you use an AC then I recommend no water so that you aren't filtering out even more flavor. The other thing I love about the fritted Dewaar is that there is only the slightest moment of chug before there is absolutely zero. At that point it feels as though you are only pulling through the frit itself without water. It is a very cool thing to experience after using a stemless fritted piece which usually glug glug glugs as you hit it. Add the vapor tamer and it really feels as though you are simply breathing in cold air.

I love the fritted piece, but it is more expensive than the Showerhead, which is an awesome bubbler (I think a couple are being sold in the Classifieds even cheaper right now!). I can definitely feel the difference in harshness between the two, but the difference is not major. As far as I'm concerned you need the AC for the Frit which adds even more to the cost. I also feel that an AC adds to the experience of the Showerjead because it helps with that last bit of harshness from monster hits. Both have removable mouthpieces so you can add a vapor tamer to either, but the Showerhead uses a 14mm joint for the mouthpiece which means you'd need a 14mm-->19mm adapter which I would suggest getting at a 30 degree angle to raise the mouthpiece (personal preference).

Overall, they are both great bubblers, but I reach for the Frit 9 times out of 10.

Edit: I can say this for sure. When it comes to using vapes that have no or very little resistance on the draw, I prefer the Frit. If I'm using a vape that offers moderate to heavy resistance in the draw, I prefer the Showerhead.

Edit 2: some videos featuring a Vapor Tamer and a PNWT.

Thanks so much for all the details. Sounds like the fritted is for me, so the choice comes down to a David Goldstein piece or GBD. Since the Goldstein pieces don't have the same GonG connectivity, I'll likely go with GBD. I sent Sam an email asking if there could be a downstem setup within it like the Showerhead Bub (so it can be stacked vertically w/ an HT, not utilizing the fritted but the downstem perc), if the mouthpiece area could be vertical instead of diagonal (easier for an HT), and if the colored glass areas could be green.

He said yes to the first two but he cannot do the green --- the color options are gold, transparent, and red. I was thinking green because of the green VXL that's coming. But this isn't that big of a deal.

Cool! I'll continue talking with him about this. Thanks for the recommendation about the AC --- I would not have thought of that. Cleaning tons of debris out of the fritted does sound like quite a pain in the ass.
 
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Live-N-Learn

Higher, Higher, Baby...
I pulled the trigger on the fritted sidecar. Oh man Ive been a bad boy this month. Damn you GBD and your quality pieces at affordable prices. LMAO

I never used a sidecar bub, anyone wanna chime in on how it is to use one???
 

rotax

Zaporist
Anyone have the $80 "Bubbler w/ detachable mouth piece" (HERE is a link to the website, 2nd bubbler down from the top of the page).
I like the price, and the size, and the removable mouth piece.
Is it just a downstem with a few holes placed around the outside of it?

How does it work with vapor? Flavor? Drag? Diffusion?
 
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Deadshort480

We're here to fuck shit up.
It uses a downstem as the perc. I believe that particular downstem with that array of holes is only available with a male joint. Perhaps you can order a custom downstem or purchase a seperate one?
 
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Meghan

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I picked up the GBD Inline Bub from the Classifieds, and I have to say, I absolutely love it. It's a bit bigger than I realized, but that translates into nice, big hits. It actually pairs great with my Illadelph hot hit slide for insanely giant wax hits, and my brand-new Lotus fogs it up beautifully. The piece itself is very solid. It's my first experience with GBD, and I'm very satisfied!

Edited to add: This is the most fun piece to hit that I own.

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Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
So I got my fritter convertible hydratube the other day :brow:

I recall reading earlier in the thread somewhere that it didn't come with the stand, just the stopper and mouthpiece, but I asked Sam and he assured me it came with everything.

I asked him to make me a flared mouthpiece, I'm not sure if that's what he does as standard (I could swear I've seen some with the more closed off style mouthpiece that looks "phallic";)), but the mouthpiece came exactly as I was hoping.
In the end it is very similar to the mouthpiece on my leviathan lattice bubbler.

I was worried the drag would be high give that the frit is so small compared to the other fritter pieces I own (including this piece, I've got 5 fritters now :D), but it feels quite similar to the others.
Maybe it's due to the relatively low water volume the piece holds?

I've been using it with my solo primarily so far, 18mm gong stem in the bottom inlet, using it hydratube style.
That setup does feel a little tall, but that would only really worry me if I was to put the whole setup down on a table without removing the tube.

It sits quite well on a table even without the stand, because of the crazy thick 18mm joints used.
I've got a couple of pieces with extra thick 18mm joints, but the ones in this tube are even bigger than them. :tup:

I really like the stopper/carb idea, it's kinda like it has a built in cloudbuddy.

I also gave it a whirl with my LSV.
With the airflow the LSV provides, I can get it to stack all the way up to the mouthpiece, but I've had zero issues with splashback so far.

I never use my pieces on a tabletop, always hand-held.
When using it "standard" style (so using the middle inlet, not the bottom one) it has to be held so as to ensure the bottom stopper is kept in place.
I wouldn't call it awkward, just something I need to be mindful of when not using it hydratube style. (The massive joints are too big for a keck clip, so you can't just clip the bottom on and pick it up normally.)

It's hard to judge exactly, but from what I can tell, the diameter of the frit is the same as the little pre-filter Frits that come with the 21mm DG fritter tubes.

Unfortunately the piece did have 1 small flaw, in the downstem part there was a tiny hole.
When I say tiny, I couldn't see it, and I couldn't feel it when I ran my finger along it.
It did cause a very slow leak (it took over 45 mins for the piece to empty, and it only seemed to leak after an initial pull) I can't blame Sam for it slipping through QC, it was a very minor blemish that unfortunately made the piece only semi usable.

I contacted Sam about it, and he got back to me really quickly.
We've come to an agreement on the issue, and overall I'm happy with how everything ended up.

It's unfortunate the piece had a blemish, but Sam sorted it quickly and without hassle - that's a sign of good customer service in my book.

I've managed to repair the leak with some glass epoxy.
Does anyone know of a way to "sand" Down the epoxy to clean up my work without damaging the glass?

But yeah, overall I'm loving the piece, and I'd totally recommend it and GBD to anyone thinking about picking up one of their pieces :)

I'm strongly considering getting either the fritter dewaar bubbler, or the fritter sidecar tube next...

I'll try to snap some pics and a vid of it over the weekend.
 

Throwie

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But yeah, overall I'm loving the piece, and I'd totally recommend it and GBD to anyone thinking about picking up one of their pieces :)


Nice, man! I was interested in a piece from GBD a while ago but when I contacted him he said he doesn't ship to Australia. Did he recently start shipping here or did you arrange something with him? Would love to get a fritted piece.
 

llamaman001

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Yea I really want one of those fritted hydratubes, maybe after I get a pax. I have a feeling they would work wonderful for the PNP.
 

canj00digit?

All my days in a daze...
Nice, man! I was interested in a piece from GBD a while ago but when I contacted him he said he doesn't ship to Australia. Did he recently start shipping here or did you arrange something with him? Would love to get a fritted piece.

I'm assuming @Frederick McGuire used a reshipping service or simply a mate in the US or something. GBD still doesn't ship outside the US.
 

VaPeD&CoNfUsEd

JoDa Glassworks
Glass Blower
Yea I really want one of those fritted hydratubes, maybe after I get a pax. I have a feeling they would work wonderful for the PNP.
Actually I had one of the GBD fritted hydratubes (Another member has it now) and it was not good for the pnp. There's something about the vapor from the pnp that clogs that frit up tighter than a frogs asshole! Sounds odd I know but, my ascent wouldn't plug it, the pax wouldn't plug it, the ssv wouldn't plug and dabs wouldn't plug it but that damned pnp would have it plugged up in less than 2 bullets.
 
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