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Discontinued Pinnacle Pro
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vape4health
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Did anyone with a bad pong or mp wash it with iso, I did a very quick rinse over then into running water when it was new. Just trying to get a feel if maybe that was a factor.
I still really like this vape, as much as I should be freaked I just keep using it. TRVB, I fucked with you on the first thread but I'm glad you stuck with it. Thank you.
I still really like this vape, as much as I should be freaked I just keep using it. TRVB, I fucked with you on the first thread but I'm glad you stuck with it. Thank you.
I'm really digging this device and have formed a nice night routine with PNP, WT, and a kief sandwich bullet.
Start it on 2 and let it sit for a couple minutes before partaking. Hit until timer goes off. Turn it up to 3 for the next round.
If I'm still awake after that I'll see if any is left on 4.
Thanks again TRVB.com for these great deals on a great product.
Start it on 2 and let it sit for a couple minutes before partaking. Hit until timer goes off. Turn it up to 3 for the next round.
If I'm still awake after that I'll see if any is left on 4.
Thanks again TRVB.com for these great deals on a great product.
theCerberus
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I've noticed that for heat Solo wins in 2 factors.
1. More steps in temperature which allows for 400-410 F (I find that range ideal).
2. The solo heats up significantly faster than my pinnacle pro. Like my pro takes 2-3 minutes to heat up from cold. its kinda painful the slow wait. Of course if it auto-shuts off, then turning it back on will heat from a much warmer start, and will be faster.
Pinnacle pro skips from 395F to 420F. I find my clouds are thinner than the solo at both these temperatures.
For some reason at about 415F the clouds start to thin out for flowers imo. the thickest are in the 400-410F range and I have found in general with all my vapes (volcano, aromed, cloud+, solo, pinnacle pro) that around this temp is ideal for me.
I find no use for the bottom and top 2 settings on the pinnacle pro. My bholt/any standard nichrome coil atomizer seems to milk up glass pieces and produce nice clouds with dabs of budder. But with 2x as much of the same budder in the pro at the top setting 5 it still gives whispy clouds.
I only use one setting for flowers, and that is the middle, 3. Which isnt that odd as I only use setting 6 on my Solo. My flowers get darker brown with the pro, I would like it cooked less, but its still reasonable.
With that said the Pinnacle wins in portability.
It is way slimmer and lighter than the solo.
I really like the bullets because I can have one ready as opposed to needing to carry around a full glass stem.
That means there is less to worry about when taking it on the go as nothing (but the add on WT) is really going to break easily. I'd actually like to see a WT made out of plastic for precisely this reason.
1. More steps in temperature which allows for 400-410 F (I find that range ideal).
2. The solo heats up significantly faster than my pinnacle pro. Like my pro takes 2-3 minutes to heat up from cold. its kinda painful the slow wait. Of course if it auto-shuts off, then turning it back on will heat from a much warmer start, and will be faster.
Pinnacle pro skips from 395F to 420F. I find my clouds are thinner than the solo at both these temperatures.
For some reason at about 415F the clouds start to thin out for flowers imo. the thickest are in the 400-410F range and I have found in general with all my vapes (volcano, aromed, cloud+, solo, pinnacle pro) that around this temp is ideal for me.
I find no use for the bottom and top 2 settings on the pinnacle pro. My bholt/any standard nichrome coil atomizer seems to milk up glass pieces and produce nice clouds with dabs of budder. But with 2x as much of the same budder in the pro at the top setting 5 it still gives whispy clouds.
I only use one setting for flowers, and that is the middle, 3. Which isnt that odd as I only use setting 6 on my Solo. My flowers get darker brown with the pro, I would like it cooked less, but its still reasonable.
With that said the Pinnacle wins in portability.
It is way slimmer and lighter than the solo.
I really like the bullets because I can have one ready as opposed to needing to carry around a full glass stem.
That means there is less to worry about when taking it on the go as nothing (but the add on WT) is really going to break easily. I'd actually like to see a WT made out of plastic for precisely this reason.
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bussinrounds
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Thanks Snappo...you're welcome just the same... good luck
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Meghan
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You can definitely vary the load size, but nothing will make the Pinnacle Pro taste as good as the Solo. That said, I don't think the Pinnacle Pro tastes bad at all.
Engineering will say level 3 is safe, but he is also insistent that they are not "melting" just degrading and softening. They are made from PC, which I believe is safe up to 480 aprx.Mine came with the clear PonG also.
@TherealVaporblunt is it safe to say we should not use the clear PonG if we go over temp 2 on the Pro?
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I suppose I should have reminded everyone that these come with OG PonG's, however I will be switching it to PES PonG's once we sell through current inventory. It will be after the sale, as the new pong is considerably more expensive.
I agree, the solo tastes amazing. I'm not sure any vape can top solo in taste.You can definitely vary the load size, but nothing will make the Pinnacle Pro taste as good as the Solo. That said, I don't think the Pinnacle Pro tastes bad at all.
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Vaping is a way of life!
I think yesterday was the last day for the pinnacle pro 20% off, the water tool is still available till end of month.
Try contacting TheRealVaporblunt to see if its still available.
Someone pointed out I started it on the 4th or something and said 30 days. Contact vaporblunteric@gmail.com and he will manually process you up until the 8th to be fair. But the sales has to end sometime, so the 8th is firm
deadheadbill
I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...
You're such a pushover.
Haha. Also, to avoid the inevitable anger that comes whenever I have a sale, I am announcing a major Black Friday(day after thanksgiving) sale 7 weeks in advance. Details will come closer to the date, but I can tell you it will be on every product we sell.
I posted it here because this is my most active thread, maybe some of you could spread the word in other threads for me?
OutkastBoss
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Can anyone elaborate on the differences between "degrading and softening" versus melting?
Sounds like a p.r. way to say But it only melts a little !
Unless I am in need of education on the ins and outs of this " Softening and degrading " situation.
I was considering buying one of these until my og pn had a failure from basically the same issue.
Until I see a result or explanation I am happy with I wont be buying any plastic products.
This calls to mind all the peoples looks of doubt when I told them I quit combusting out of glass for this hunk of plastic.
Also I was asked to pay for the new higher temp pong or receive the same type that I now feel is unsafe, very disappointed in that answer.
Sounds like a p.r. way to say But it only melts a little !
Unless I am in need of education on the ins and outs of this " Softening and degrading " situation.
I was considering buying one of these until my og pn had a failure from basically the same issue.
Until I see a result or explanation I am happy with I wont be buying any plastic products.
This calls to mind all the peoples looks of doubt when I told them I quit combusting out of glass for this hunk of plastic.
Also I was asked to pay for the new higher temp pong or receive the same type that I now feel is unsafe, very disappointed in that answer.
mollee
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Thank you so much!!
That is untrue, you were offered a free, version 2 pong that goes to the vape you own. You posted in the pinnacle thread, and I offered you a pinnacle pong at no charge that has had a ZERO percent failure ratio. You are asking me to give you a part that goes to a unit that you do not own is what I got from your post. If I'm wrong about any of this I apologize in advance, but the problem you are referring to has been solved for months with the V2 tinted pong, which is exactly what I offered you.
As far as recommendation of a vape that is "not a toy" I do believe the VXH cloud is a good choice, as most portables that use LI-ion have some sort of plastic
Edit: to further explain, by zero percent failure I mean they have been on the market for months and I have received 0.0 units returned to me. We have shipped and sold > 100 (obviously I can't release our sales, so that could mean 101 or 5,000). On another interesting note, even on the original clear pong, I only received apprx 15 pieces back to be swapped for the new pong. That is a failure rate of way less than 1%. Any product on earth has failures, that's why god invented warranties. FYI typical failure in electronics is 3-5%. I understand your concerns being it is something you are inhaling, but < 1% indicates it isn't caused by the unit most likely. However, I do not have an answer for what causes it. My best educated guess is a reaction to ISO, but that's just a guess as I have never once been able to ruin a pong with heat from a pinnacle
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OutkastBoss
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Actually it is true if you could have read my Pm you would know I had the V2 in the first place.
Even though I ordered on release I had to wait because the Wt was on backorder by the time I got my Wt and Og Pn from GV it came with the V2 tinted Pong
After watching it degrade and finally fail your assurance that it's okay just isn't enough for me.
I could have sworn there had been others with the v2 pong failing or at least pics of it degrading but either way mine did and if it's breaking down it is releasing something.
I have had nothing but positive things to say about this unit until this and from the cs responses on here honestly expected it to be no big deal.
This is not apples and oranges imo this is the same Pong in every way but material that has higher heat rating and likely costs marginally more to produce.
Seems to be a perfect replacement for a piece that seems to have slowly failed from heat damage.
I have been telling ppl i know about this unit and am meeting with a large group from a club I am in and will be expected to show it around a bit.
Not only am I out of it for my vacation for this event but I am going to be asked about it all week, obviously I am disappointed.
I will be ordering the higher temp pong as that is what it will take for me to feel safe
I may still sell it just to wash my hands, of the way this was handled I feel like my safety concerns were diregarded entirely and the time wasn't even taken for you to be informed enough of the situation to realize I was being offered the very same piece I was concered about.
At least i'll feel safe that I went to every available end to err on the side of caution for whoever buys it.
I personally wouln't even consider the pro unless even higher temp pong were released for it as there is already pics of its pong failing in a way that concerns me more than burning plant matter.
I will have to check out the vhx cloud thread.
I am thinking something with a glass vapor path, I have more faith in glass.
I will try and stay out of your threads now, btw I followed them from post #1.
Good luck this is a buisness full of people with concerns that cannot allways be easily pacified.
Even though I ordered on release I had to wait because the Wt was on backorder by the time I got my Wt and Og Pn from GV it came with the V2 tinted Pong
After watching it degrade and finally fail your assurance that it's okay just isn't enough for me.
I could have sworn there had been others with the v2 pong failing or at least pics of it degrading but either way mine did and if it's breaking down it is releasing something.
I have had nothing but positive things to say about this unit until this and from the cs responses on here honestly expected it to be no big deal.
This is not apples and oranges imo this is the same Pong in every way but material that has higher heat rating and likely costs marginally more to produce.
Seems to be a perfect replacement for a piece that seems to have slowly failed from heat damage.
I have been telling ppl i know about this unit and am meeting with a large group from a club I am in and will be expected to show it around a bit.
Not only am I out of it for my vacation for this event but I am going to be asked about it all week, obviously I am disappointed.
I will be ordering the higher temp pong as that is what it will take for me to feel safe
I may still sell it just to wash my hands, of the way this was handled I feel like my safety concerns were diregarded entirely and the time wasn't even taken for you to be informed enough of the situation to realize I was being offered the very same piece I was concered about.
At least i'll feel safe that I went to every available end to err on the side of caution for whoever buys it.
I personally wouln't even consider the pro unless even higher temp pong were released for it as there is already pics of its pong failing in a way that concerns me more than burning plant matter.
I will have to check out the vhx cloud thread.
I am thinking something with a glass vapor path, I have more faith in glass.
I will try and stay out of your threads now, btw I followed them from post #1.
Good luck this is a buisness full of people with concerns that cannot allways be easily pacified.
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vape4health
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I was under the impression the pro had the high temp mp/pong included. So if we order a pro replacement will we just receive the normal og one or is the high temp labeled as that. Kinda fucking confusing, so the pro comes with a og pong and mp I would assume. Can we get some high temp mps too.
Edit: I think its only the water tools pong that you was talking about not being hi temp.
Edit: I think its only the water tools pong that you was talking about not being hi temp.
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GreenRoom
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Update....I've been using the Pro on level 4 with a bubbler, sometimes back to back sessions, with no degradation or melting. The battery is also breaking in and lasting a bit longer. My DV has been demoted to backup as the Pro is now my daily driver. I love this thing. Thank you TRVB.
Andy
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ISO has never touched my PonG.
vape4health
Well-Known Member
And you still got melting?
I got another stupid question, is the material oil resistant or is resin even considered an oil.
The pro comes with the. Higher temp pong and mp, as it goes to the higher temps. Outcast boss was posting about his og pn in this thread, so I can see why you are confused.
If a tree falls in the Forrest and nobody hears it did it fall? As I stated, I have had 0 v2 pongs returned to me, if OKB has a v2 that failed that would be a first if, but without it being returned to me I would not even begin to speculate, being I have NeVER seen one.
If I had to take my Chevy into the shop for a recall, I imagine No matter what I said they wouldn't give me a Cadillac for my trouble. Like he said, it's apples to oranges. Please let me know if I can help, but I can not start a trend of replacing things with a much more expensive part that is unnecessary at those heats until I actually received and diagnosed the problem. If you send me your v2 pong and it is indeed a problem on my end, of course I would provide you with a pn pro pong.
OutkastBoss
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@vape4life.
To be clear mine is the origional pinnacle the pro comes with the solid black high temp one, my questions spilled over here and are only public because I got no reply by Pm.
Although it seems the Wt still comes with the v1 clear pong until they run out then they will include the high temp ones with the Wt.
Souns like phasing out an inferior part to me, I wouldn't use any pong for your pro except the solid black one (v3)
I guess the Wt is no longer for the Og Pn since it will soon come with the solid black Pong, otherwise the statement that I am asking for a part off of an unrelated vape would just be flat out wrong.
Also the origional pinnacle does not even come with a pong, it came with the water tower so If anything I am asking for the current gen piece for the Water tower I bought!
Thanks but no thanks Trvb I would not even sell someone my Og Pn with the same mouthpiece I watched degrade much less use it. (v2)
I just wanted to clarify that the Pinnacle pro does come with the higher temp solid black V3 pong, wich would likely hold up great on the Og pn with a larger margin of error.
Oops trvb beat me to it and once again failed in reading comprehension as I clearly said this is NOT apples to oranges.
this is an updated version of the same piece that you chose to be a jerk about.
mod note: Be nice. Calling another member a jerk is not permitted. Warning point issued.
That now that I remember it came with the WT and the WT will soon be coming with them irk's me even more.
Lol good luck with these jokers everyone it's $ over safety.
Why the hell would you still even be sending out the clear V1's that failed on the OG pn !?!?
Money that's why it certainly isn't for safety reasons.
There isn't anything else for me to say really except Your CS sucks you have never replied to the PM or even seemed to fully grasp one full post without either unintentionally misinterpreting it or possibly purposely misquoting me.
People trust you not to harm them with safety issues and to take them seriously you have been very cavalier with my safety concerns and more inclined to attack and discredit them than take them seriously.
It's pretty apparent you don't want to replace mine because of the flood of people that will want the V3 for SAFETY reasons, just to be sure.
Enjoy your $, as for everyone else I hope your not breathing plastic Vapors.
Oops double post , my bad but since there isn't much more to say I will stop cluttering this thread with legitimate safety and CS issues.
Lol Cadillac !!?!?! what a joke
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To be clear mine is the origional pinnacle the pro comes with the solid black high temp one, my questions spilled over here and are only public because I got no reply by Pm.
Although it seems the Wt still comes with the v1 clear pong until they run out then they will include the high temp ones with the Wt.
Souns like phasing out an inferior part to me, I wouldn't use any pong for your pro except the solid black one (v3)
I guess the Wt is no longer for the Og Pn since it will soon come with the solid black Pong, otherwise the statement that I am asking for a part off of an unrelated vape would just be flat out wrong.
Also the origional pinnacle does not even come with a pong, it came with the water tower so If anything I am asking for the current gen piece for the Water tower I bought!
Thanks but no thanks Trvb I would not even sell someone my Og Pn with the same mouthpiece I watched degrade much less use it. (v2)
I just wanted to clarify that the Pinnacle pro does come with the higher temp solid black V3 pong, wich would likely hold up great on the Og pn with a larger margin of error.
Oops trvb beat me to it and once again failed in reading comprehension as I clearly said this is NOT apples to oranges.
this is an updated version of the same piece that you chose to be a jerk about.
mod note: Be nice. Calling another member a jerk is not permitted. Warning point issued.
That now that I remember it came with the WT and the WT will soon be coming with them irk's me even more.
Lol good luck with these jokers everyone it's $ over safety.
Why the hell would you still even be sending out the clear V1's that failed on the OG pn !?!?
Money that's why it certainly isn't for safety reasons.
There isn't anything else for me to say really except Your CS sucks you have never replied to the PM or even seemed to fully grasp one full post without either unintentionally misinterpreting it or possibly purposely misquoting me.
People trust you not to harm them with safety issues and to take them seriously you have been very cavalier with my safety concerns and more inclined to attack and discredit them than take them seriously.
It's pretty apparent you don't want to replace mine because of the flood of people that will want the V3 for SAFETY reasons, just to be sure.
Enjoy your $, as for everyone else I hope your not breathing plastic Vapors.
Oops double post , my bad but since there isn't much more to say I will stop cluttering this thread with legitimate safety and CS issues.
Lol Cadillac !!?!?! what a joke
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Glad you brought this up: While I was double checking my chemical compatibility charts, I noticed that both PES and PC are Limited use in Ester based oils. Ester is pretty common, and found in Glycerin based oils, which are used for tincture production. Also anything based in Polypropylene Glycol or Ethylene Glycol would be suspect.
Now I am not sure what the base of most of the Oils and Waxes on the market are?
I am still thinking that the issue is mechanical in nature. Likely that the Press fit area that people have been showing with damage is a bit on the thin side. We couple the press fit in this area with heat and we might be causing some stress cracking on the plastic. Again, I haven't gotten any of the returns yet, so this is all conjecture.
One final comment: The heat in the PRO, even at 5 is nowhere close to melt temperature of PES. PES melts at 379 C or 714 F! That is WAY above the temps we use in any vaporizer. This is why I made the claim that it is not melting, and stick by that. I believe there is something happening that appears to be melting, still need to investigate further.
Crohnie
Crohn's Warrior
I just cleaned my clear PONG in a 50% ISO solution. I put the ISO and the PONG in a plastic freezer bag, swished it around for a few minutes, cleaned it out with cotton swabs and rinsed thoroughly with water. The PONG came out clean and showed absolutely no signs of discoloration or damage.