Still Smoking

Hey everyone, I know it had been a while since I posted. I have the Vapolution 2.0 and I tried to switch from smoking to vaping. As my name implies, I am all about the smoke. Preferably joints, also bowls, bongs, and even the occasional (but rare) blunt.

I liked the Vapolution at first, I used some first rate herb and it worked very well. However, I had a very hard time with airflow. Either I would put in too little herb, and it would fall to the bottom of the vape, or, I would put in too much and couldn't draw good air. This was frustrating enough that I began mostly smoking instead.

I also had little if any effect from eating consumables made with ABV; I also felt that I wasn't quite getting enough effects from my herb.

I am not your typical smoker; I will smoke till the bag is empty then shake the kief to a corner and pull it off to use. Then I search high and low for roaches to salvage. After I have exhausted everything green (crawling on the floor, looking high and low), I scrape the bowl with a piece of coat hanger, drywall screw, or paper clip. After I get through that, I will scrape the carbon from the inner bowl and smoke that. I actually purchased my current bowl with improved scraping in mind; the carb is opposite the mouthpiece, at the end rather than on the side. Works amazing.

Anyway I found that I could vape my used rolling papers (after I take the herb from a roach, I keep the sticky brown papers) with very favorable results. So I did that, the papers get a little toasty but don't burn. The taste ranges from very good (the lemony zing of the first vape hit) to pretty terrible (a steamy papery taste).

Anyway today I went through everything I had, but then I noticed that the downstems from my Vapolution were very brown and sticky. Well, why not. I held the glass with a pair of pliers and held a lighter flame underneath. Sure enough, it began to smoke on the inside and I am now pretty decently high from it.

I would like to vape and reduce my consumption, so far it's hard though. I just love the feeling of smoking so much. I quit tobacco about 10 years ago, so smoking herbs is the only way I get that "stress" sensation, which I like. I actually have gotten some great "stress" from vape hits too. When the vape is working well, no question it's awesome. I can get 20 hits from a well packed downstem. However, I get lazy and don't want to wait for the vape to heat. And, if I have bad airflow, it seems the herb still gets vaped and I feel like I wasted it.

I would love some advice on the Vapolution specifically (how to pack it for perfect airflow) and also wanted to hear from any of you who still smoke occasionally/regularly, to see any tips for stretching it or creative ways to eke out that last bit of THC from anything resiny around.

I would guess it's constricted blood vessels in the lungs from the smoke that you love so much. If you can just get over that I'm sure you would like your vaporizer a lot more. I was am the same style of smoker as yourself I smoke everything in sight then risen,stems, roach paper whatever. I had my vaporizer for over a year before I was putting all my weed into it everyday. Now instead of ^ 1. I vape 2. I grind and re-vape 3 I eat the ABV after I'm done 4 after a few bowls I vape the reclaim from all the glass parts. I use my vaporizer to get high not for my health I use about .3 a day often mids that's about one hit smoking maybe two. It sounds like you just need to use the damn thing and not just let it sit around as your roach paper pipe. If you only had say .1 that's not even a hit smoking would you smoke it or vape it. I'm trying to help you already have the vaporizer try to only vape a full day then a week. Tell me it's not better. It's not the thing to do because it cool it's the thing to do because it's get's you high.

Edit I guess if you got the money smoke up no need to worry about it. All my friends hate vapes are all hardcore punk-rockers types you can't teach them shit they spend $15 on beer $10 on cigs go and buy a $25 1/8 oz every day or so and won't even think about throwing money away on a vaporizer.

Smokelover2Vape said:

I am all about the smoke. ... I had a very hard time with airflow.

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I can't help with the Vapolution, but I would recommend a cheap Vapor Genie for ~$60. It can bring you as close to the smoking experience as you want, but with practice you can have finer control of just how far down the brown hole you go (the lighter the brown, the better the edible abv experience). Airflow is excellent and you get the satisfaction of using your trusty lighter. Some of the vapes may be a little too slow and/or weak for a hardcore smoker.

I tried switching to vaping two or three years ago after buying an iolite, but it didn't stick. Mainly because the iolite just wasn't the right vape for me. I think making the switch from smoking (which I loved) is wholly dependent on having the right vape and sticking with it.

A Pax is what won me over to vaping because it was simple to use and gave me monster hits. I was surprised that the effect was as good as smoking. What convinced me to stop smoking regularly (I still like the occasional joint) was vaping for five days straight. I went to hit a bowl and was shocked by how bad it tasted. I felt the junk getting sucked into my throat and getting stuck to my lungs. Blech.

If conservation is an issue for you like it is for me, vaping is the only way to go. As far as the right tool, I highly recommend an Underdog or a Solo. I don't think you would be disappointed with either.

Sounds like you are using the "erb" as an excuse to continue smoking without feeling guilty of actually smoking. I am the same and every time it led me back to cigs so i bought a vape and decided that was all i was going to use and every now and again i have an urge to bring out my bong just to get that harsh feeling in my lungs and throat . God damn ciggerettes. i also had an no2 as my first vape and the ssv of which gives some really good throat hits if you crank it up really high

Funny this should come up.I posted about those who have used a carbon filter not vaping but for those who still burned.I managed to use one hooked below the bowl (wasnt the biggest thing but held a substantial amount of carbon) and pulled on it and found it to be very smooth and much less dense. I didnt cough and most likely would have due to the irritating effect combustion has on me, but not this time.
I was at buds house ,they will not convert but claim this is a healthier way supposedly if your still burning.
The filter kept the rig pretty clean,I must admit. So I bought one and will keep it around.


I have some rigs blown by a glower here on the FC forum,AEON GLASS ,Jhan Pixel is owner.His rigs ,the ones I purchased are without a doubt built for combustion, but i use them w/a Solo. But to hook em up with the carbon filter and a bowl was just amazing to use and watch.Pure MILK and NO shitstains all over the glass,his rigs really do smooth out combustion smoke tremendously ( homey sure does test and tune those rigs with mac daddy diffusion) and with a carbon filter,I WAS IMPRESSED at the smoothness and truthfully ,didnt not feel the effects as I would have if no filter was present. Cant do the combust thing on a steady basis, but NOW at least if Im in the company or having them over, I can take a night w/ the burner crew with out to much repercussions from it, thanks to the carbon filter just my but I'm still bonded for life w/my Solo and vaping..I am buying a back up before Arizer starts to realize they could up the price and still sell.(must admit, the unit is a workhorse satisfying home and portable use, IMO no other unit in this price range can compete

Just looking around to see what good can be done for the stubborn who just flat out refuse to come on over.Their gripe is ,"WTF a pack of papers is a few bucks and the frigging vape is 100x that, fug that method dude" I tell 'em but what you spend on medical bills when you get sick from inhaling the road and all of the poisons affiliated with it wont matter then!!

Thanks everyone, I have been on a pretty long break since I am looking for work, plan to get back on the vape once things straighten out though.