Vaporbrothers Dabbler & Eleven Pen

dime said:

The carrying case is great, the mouthpiece is adequate but would definitely swap it for a higher quality one. Same with the included glass dabbing tool from VW, a small flat metal scoop would work much better considering the small volume of the heating element.

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Hey Dime glad to hear you are enjoying the Dabbler. VaporWarehouse can't take any credit for the inclusion of the glass dab tool, that comes courtesy of Vaporbrothers. However I think I know where you can get the dab tool you described.

dime said:

If you look at the image at the top of this page the heating element doesn't quite match the battery, one is brushed chrome and the other is smooth/reflective stainless steel. I kind of wish the entire device was the brushed chrome as I think it looks a bit better

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I'm going to go out on a limb here. My guess as to why those two parts don't match is the Dabbler parts are being made in separate factories to help slow them from getting knocked off. So that may explain why the stainless battery base is a different color from the heater.

VaporWarehouse said:

I also have some experience with the RUVaped pens as they are a local company. In July prior to the "titanium" coil coming out, we purchased a selection of the micro globe pen kits and some additional globes. ...

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For those that wonder what the appeal of the Golbe is.. allow me to show you.
Globe was "Dabbler Designed"

Vitolo said:

For those that wonder what the appeal of the Golbe is.. allow me to show you.

Globe was "Dabbler Designed"

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Looks quite intriguing. Is this going to be released for the dabbler at some point? Also, love the vaporist mug on the counter in the beginning!

Thanks.. That globe will very likely be available very soon.

As for the Mug.. I stick it in my vids for fun.. it has my Logo on it.
You can get them at Zazzle by touching the link "Vaporist stuff" on my signature.
The prices have gone up.. when I made these the price was half what you see there.
You can order and get 20% off though by using this code: FRIENDSOFZ20

Just read through the 20 pages, and I have a few questions.

About how many grams do you get in per battery charge?
Are any types of oil especially non-compatible?

I'm also thinking about buying a VIP by SSV. Obviously Vitolo has experience with both, but IIRC a couple others have either tried or own both. I have a couple questions about they compare, which I noticed Vitolo is against doing

Is the difference between the hit density night and day?
Is there a big difference in battery life, or do they both last so long that it doesn't really matter?
Is either more sensitive to the quality and/or type of oil you use? To me it seems like it's more about build up from impurities than anything else. Is that right?
Which has more quirks that a new user must get used to?

Thanks in advance!

ekulaj said:

Just read through the 20 pages, and I have a few questions.

About how many grams do you get in per battery charge?
Are any types of oil especially non-compatible?

I'm also thinking about buying a VIP by SSV. Obviously Vitolo has experience with both, but IIRC a couple others have either tried or own both. I have a couple questions about they compare, which I noticed Vitolo is against doing

Is the difference between the hit density night and day?
Is there a big difference in battery life, or do they both last so long that it doesn't really matter?
Is either more sensitive to the quality and/or type of oil you use? To me it seems like it's more about build up from impurities than anything else. Is that right?
Which has more quirks that a new user must get used to?

Thanks in advance!

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I know nothing about the VIP so I'll answer what I can to the best of my ability.

I have never gone grams without recharging. That seems a bit excessive. However, I have been impressed by the battery life. I can go at least three days without recharging. Recharging is super easy anyway and that's not necessary. Unless you are using absolutely massive amounts of wax at a time I don't think you will run into any issues with battery power.

Most concentrates work. Bubble hash and the sort may not work well or at all unless very pure. BHO, QWISO, Co2, QWET, etc etc should all work. Consistency is a non-issue. I've tried runny oils to shatter with success. As long as its decently pure you should be fine.

As I said I can't compare the dabbler to the VIP but I can tell you that I enjoy my dabbler and that it does a good job at what it is designed to do.

Order placed. Really looking forward to this thing.

Thanks for the tease, Vito. I have tried other globes and hope that we can count on the heavier build quality from VB. I think I will wait for the globe rather than give my money to another vendor with a similar product.

ekulaj said:

I have a couple questions about they compare, which I noticed Vitolo is against doing

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My apologies ekulaj...
It is a question first of repetition, when all words are already in print here for anyone to find.
I spoke in both threads about what I liked in each unit, and I spoke of what to do about the minor bugs in each... in the appropriate threads.
What I am "against" is going into a thread of one vaporizing tool... and list pros and cons
of it's competition, when I already did so in the pertinent thread for each.

These two devices are not comparable.
One is to load a ball of wax to travel, and one is to do a dab.

A "dab" is generally consumed faster and therefore a device meant for a "dab" would be capable of a thicker hit, with less adjustment.

Vitolo said:

My apologies ekulaj...
It is a question first of repetition, when all words are already in print here for anyone to find.
I spoke in both threads about what I liked in each unit, and I spoke of what to do about the minor bugs in each... in the appropriate threads.
What I am "against" is going into a thread of one vaporizing tool... and list pros and cons
of it's competition, when I already did so in the pertinent thread for each.

These two devices are not comparable.
One is to load a ball of wax to travel, and one is to do a dab.

A "dab" is generally consumed faster and therefore a device meant for a "dab" would be capable of a thicker hit, with less adjustment.

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Alright, I'll post in both threads. I would PM you, but I feel that the information I seek is important, and so far isn't concisely presented in the thread. If only I were to read it, then others may remain wondering the same questions. I have spent way over 10 hours reading through both threads though, so if there's anything I missed, I'm sorry. There's just so much data that I had to sift through it and it still took me that long.

However, I did not find many detailed accounts about the battery life, other than from the manufacturer. In my experience, manufacturers aren't always exactly right in their estimates of this sort. From what I've gathered though, it should last long enough to not be a concern when considering the frequency of bowl loading. A lot of people are posting, after owning it for a while, that the battery is still going after one or two charges, but the amount of time a charge lasts doesn't mean much when its usage is unknown.

As for the types of concentrates, does purity only matter? I used to own an Omicron, which would perform very differently based on what you put into it. Should I not be as concerned about the Dabbler's requirements? I've read a couple posts where people said that certain types don't work well, but I don't remember which they were (aside from No-Wrinkle's last comment on bubble hash) because the claims did not generate much discussion and get backed up.

What are some of the quirks with this vape, relative to the norm? I really don't know much about the latest generation of sub-200 portable vapes, but I'm more well-versed with stuff between 2010-2012. Obviously, the bowl size is small - that's not so much a quirk as an inherent feature. How often do clogs occur, and how likely are they to reoccur if you clear them via hard inhalation? Do clogs reoccur shortly after, or is its effect long lasting? In other words, does a clog signify that you need to clean it shortly after not?

It seems that there's almost no learning curve to using this thing, is that safe to say? Also, is it a fair interpretation to say that this gives thicker hits than vapes in similar style/price range? That the hits taste better?

Are there any difficulties I am not aware of?

There is no learning curve to the Dabbler, other than figuring out the amount of a dab that is just "too big".
All full melt waxes work well.
Impurities will not clog the Dabbler, but will fowl the coil, causing need to clean it sooner.
There is no cartridge therefore there can be no official clog
If you put way too large of a dab on the coils it may cause what seems like a clog for a second, until you heat it and inhale. One hit should clear that amount that caused the clog and it should not reoccur.

I'll try to go into more detail for you.

As for the types of concentrates, does purity only matter? I used to own an Omicron, which would perform very differently based on what you put into it. Should I not be as concerned about the Dabbler's requirements? I've read a couple posts where people said that certain types don't work well, but I don't remember which they were (aside from No-Wrinkle's last comment on bubble hash) because the claims did not generate much discussion and get backed up.

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Type of concentrate has not affected my hits at all. However loading it and putting it on the wick can be a major pain in the ass depending on the consistency. Very oily waxes were a bit more difficult but the hit was still satisfactory. My favorite has been the most recent crumble I purchased. I have the omicron as well and I know exactly what you're referencing. You will find the dabbler to be much less picky and in my opinion much more reliable. My claim on bubble is mostly speculation. Bubble, depending on the quality, is not nearly as pure as most concentrates that utilize solvents(BHO/QWISO/etc). I speculate that the impurities in the bubble would cause it to melt poorly, vaporize ineffectively, or fowl the wick and coil. This IS speculation. I have not tried bubble with my dabbler. It is something I want to do however. This is simply based on my experience with the heater. The heater gets got and vaporizes whatever is on top. You most likely will not have any issues.

What are some of the quirks with this vape, relative to the norm? I really don't know much about the latest generation of sub-200 portable vapes, but I'm more well-versed with stuff between 2010-2012. Obviously, the bowl size is small - that's not so much a quirk as an inherent feature. How often do clogs occur, and how likely are they to reoccur if you clear them via hard inhalation? Do clogs reoccur shortly after, or is its effect long lasting? In other words, does a clog signify that you need to clean it shortly after not?

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When I use the dabbler it is pretty straight forward. You unscrew the cone, load the heater with your desired extract, fasten the cone back on, and finally take a hit. Examining this process there may be a couple little 'quirks' you will run into although I am not sure they are considered a quirk. First off loading the heater can be super easy or quite the challenge. This is dependent on your sobriety. If you are sober it's going to be easy but if you've been medicating for a while it may be a bit harder if your motor skills are impaired. Screwing the cone back on can also be challenging if you're highly medicated. The bowl is small but I find that it works quite well. I usually don't have to reload for a single session.

Clogs are not common at all for me. When they do occur it is a simple process of sucking a little harder than usual and heating. Takes 2-3 seconds. This is not always an indicator of an overly dirty dabbler. It may simply mean a piece of wax or concentrate was sucked into the air path. Cleaning, for me, is used to retain flavor. I don't have a desire to clean it because it is not preforming acceptably just the flavor may get a bit unsavory. Even this usually subsides with a fresh load of wax.

It seems that there's almost no learning curve to using this thing, is that safe to say? Also, is it a fair interpretation to say that this gives thicker hits than vapes in similar style/price range? That the hits taste better?

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The learning curve is virtually nonexistent. You put a chunk of wax in, press the button, and suck. It can't get much easier. I only have the omicron and I have used a gpen. The gpen tasted disgusting and gave inferior densities of vapor. The omicron does preserve the taste nearly as well nor does it give, in my experience with the 2.4 cart, as large of clouds as the dabbler. The omicron and dabbler are not the sames beasts at all and aren't directly comparable, but you get the point.

Are there any difficulties I am not aware of?

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I don't think so? The case sometimes pops open in my pocket. The dabbler tool it comes with is somewhat limited as well. I think most things are covered though.

However, I did not find many detailed accounts about the battery life, other than from the manufacturer. In my experience, manufacturers aren't always exactly right in their estimates of this sort. From what I've gathered though, it should last long enough to not be a concern when considering the frequency of bowl loading. A lot of people are posting, after owning it for a while, that the battery is still going after one or two charges, but the amount of time a charge lasts doesn't mean much when its usage is unknown.

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I have said my part on the battery. I have not conducted tests on the battery to find its exact longevity. All I can say is that it works and lasts a long time. Maybe it won't work for your specific need whatever that may be but I find that unlikely.

I am happy with the dabbler but I have had an itch to buy something of a higher price point such as the cera of SR-71 but I find the concentrate vape market to be somewhat limited. It's hard to beat the ease and effectiveness of the dabbler.

Thank you for your replies!

No-Wrinkle said:

I am happy with the dabbler but I have had an itch to buy something of a higher price point such as the cera of SR-71 but I find the concentrate vape market to be somewhat limited. It's hard to beat the ease and effectiveness of the dabbler.

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From what I can tell after reading about the Dabbler and owning the Cera, it seems that they are very similar in terms of how they goes through oils - gigantic hits. The amount you load into the Cera doesn't have much of an effect on the number of hits you get, just the strength of them.

That said, I think I'm sold on this.

glass globes are so common nowadays, the decent ones are "Micro Vaped" but its just a rebranded one. the set cost like 20$ or so with a nail or two extra on ebay. really no point of buying a branded one.

Just my experience: I used to go through 3g every two weeks with the cera. With the dabbler, I can stretch that to a month!

ekulaj said:

Thank you for your replies!

From what I can tell after reading about the Dabbler and owning the Cera, it seems that they are very similar in terms of how they goes through oils - gigantic hits. The amount you load into the Cera doesn't have much of an effect on the number of hits you get, just the strength of them.

That said, I think I'm sold on this.

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I'm glad you decided to purchase this great vaporizer!

Having said they I am still interested in the cera. I suppose that's the nature of vaporizers, huh? Anymore you'd like to say about it?

I suppose it's not appropriate here, so I'll PM you.
Edit: It turned out to be pretty comprehensive, so I also posted it if anyone else is interested.

Anyway, I have another good word to put in for VaporWarehouse. I figured I'd buy a spare heater with it so I wouldn't have to wait a day or two later on. The dabfuk coupon gets $5 off a Dabbler, and DABBLEROFFER gets $5 off the first additional heater. However, you can only use one coupon per order! So I e-mailed them asking how I could get around it, and AJ provided a solution within 5 minutes - then told me to put my order in before he left so it could be shipped out tomorrow instead of Monday! So I did it, and now I'm looking forward to receiving my package a day sooner than I originally expected.

PS The solution is to make two orders . You might have to contact them first to get them shipped together, but I doubt it. It's just that there's no way to make a comment during the order process.

420time said:

glass globes are so common nowadays, the decent ones are "Micro Vaped" but its just a rebranded one. the set cost like 20$ or so with a nail or two extra on ebay. really no point of buying a branded one.

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You say that as if they will all be of the same quality and build. While I don't know of the quality of the one Vaporbrothers is releasing. I do know that the ones my friends have had fell apart within the first week of use. I would hope Vaporbrothers would not release a product of such quality. We will just have to see what exactly they do release and at what price point before we are able to make a judgement whether or not there is a 'point' in purchasing one.

mephisto said:

Thanks for the tease, Vito. I have tried other globes and hope that we can count on the heavier build quality from VB. I think I will wait for the globe rather than give my money to another vendor with a similar product.

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I purchased a globe this week and gave it a try, I did not think the flavor was as good with the globe, I suspect poly wick material rather than glass.

One week down with heavy use and I am still in love with my Dabbler! Best money I have spent. A buddy of mine has an Atmos, and when I let him try my Dabbler, his first comment was 'Wow, that was smooth, I didn't even think I was getting a hit." Then he made a funny face and tried to hold it in.

I used mine for an entire week before recharging, battery life is awesome!

Get a Dabbler, you won't be sorry!

Dogman said:

I purchased a globe this week and gave it a try, I did not think the flavor was as good with the globe, I suspect poly wick material rather than glass.

One week down with heavy use and I am still in love with my Dabbler! Best money I have spent. A buddy of mine has an Atmos, and when I let him try my Dabbler, his first comment was 'Wow, that was smooth, I didn't even think I was getting a hit." Then he made a funny face and tried to hold it in.

I used mine for an entire week before recharging, battery life is awesome!

Get a Dabbler, you won't be sorry!

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Did you just get the globe part ?
I don't want the whole kit , I see they sell packs of 4 for for $ 40 .
I also read it was 510 threading , can you confirm ?

poonman said:

Did you just get the globe part ?
I don't want the whole kit , I see they sell packs of 4 for for $ 40 .
I also read it was 510 threading , can you confirm ?

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I got the whole kit, globe, 3 burners and the 510 hook up. I tried it on a mechanical ecig mod at 3.7, I will try it again with the Dabbler battery and see if that helps. I am going to use it some more today to see if the taste (or the wick) burns off. I have been hesitant to try it, the flavor from the Dabbler wick is fab.

Thanx @Dogman
I wanted to hook the globe part up to my Omicron Light , but I don't think the Omi-Light has a 510 threading tho . I know I can get an adapter for threading change . Maybe I'll do that , I just want to
try something besides carts , that's all .

thanx again .

back to the Dabbler ...

I noticed when I tried the Dabbler heater on a different battery it was a lot hotter and made the vapor a bit harsh . I like the temp-regulating aspect of the Dabbler for the smoother taste it offers.

I tried my globe setup on a 510 threaded eGo battery.
As stated by JKA it was hotter. (made the coil glow!)
I will use my Dabbler battery. It's circuit was made to prevent this.

Of course, somebody always has to go against the grain. I have noticed absolutely zero difference using Dabbler heater on a different battery. Cheap knockoff e-go I had leftover from my 1st e-cig setup, and then a brand new 650mah e-go battery. If the hits are hotter, I am not seeing it. If you check my older posts, my "technique" hasn't changed with any of the 3 batteries I've used. I hold for about a 5-6 count, let go, rip away, maybe an occasional 1 sec pulse, during the rip. My flavor is exceptional and very good volume of vapor. Not trying to contradict anyone, just relate my experiences.

Also when my Dabbler battery broke apart, the top part that the heater screws into broke off and I could see the guts, I did not see anything different from a VV e-go batt that my buddy tore down.


Still have much love for the Dabbler. I am just starting to wonder "how different" all these vape pens really are. One has deep bowled heaters, one has circuitry that prevents overheating, titanium this, hit-count batteries, led lights, rebuildable coils. Yet they all appear to be the same underneath. Before you say i'm hating on these, I'm not. I use an oil pen everyday. Just an observation.