Arizer Solo

dos equis

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Does the Solo always stay charged forever when using it with your PA? I've been running it at 7 countless times, have not charged at all since I got the PA like 1-2 weeks ago, still at 6. Is this normal or do I have a SuperSolo?!
 
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Pappy

shmaporist
Pappy, you should get the PVHES GonG stem if you get a chance. It makes Solo vaporbonging much easier IME.

I dropped your screens in the mail, so you should have 'em by tomorrow.

:peace:
Very nice of you Stu, I appreciate that! Already have the PV Turbo GonG 18mm male and I've been bonging with it. True, the Solo's battery gets gassed, but what the hell, I've always hard on my vapes and easy on my women! :p
 

BranFlakes188

Active Member
Hey guys, just a quick question regarding the max temp on the Solo. I'm still waiting on mine from Massdrop and it just occurred to me that the max temperature setting on the Solo is 210'C/410'F and I'm not sure that would suit my needs. I'm a guy who vapes predominantly for a "body high", thus I'm trying to get those high-temp sedative and analgesic effects. As I understand it there are host of chemicals released at 220'C/428'F. Will I be able to get those with a Solo (maybe by drawing slower or using drier material)?
 

Pappy

shmaporist
Hey guys, just a quick question regarding the max temp on the Solo. I'm still waiting on mine from Massdrop and it just occurred to me that the max temperature setting on the Solo is 210'C/410'F and I'm not sure that would suit my needs. I'm a guy who vapes predominantly for a "body high", thus I'm trying to get those high-temp sedative and analgesic effects. As I understand it there are host of chemicals released at 220'C/428'F. Will I be able to get those with a Solo (maybe by drawing slower or using drier material)?
Have never seen two models of the same vape perform identically so I wouldn't take any of these numbers as gospel. The Solo is very efficient and you'll get blasted by applying the proper techniques.
 

Arfsdad

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M1A's and M1B's are the newest models .
But don't worry so much about the serial #'s .

I'm confused as to what is the latest model. I had an online chat with Puff It Up last week and I asked them what is the latest model, this was his reply:

Puff Puff: [14:33] MA14 is the newest model and also the one we sell.

I suppose I could purchase it direct and pay thru the nose but Puff It Ups price is $ 160, if that's for the latest model that looks good to me. I know there are less expensive ones from other outlets but I suspect they are from older production runs. Is anyone sure what is the latest model number? tnx
 
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Hexi

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In addition to what Pappy posted, the 'temp' readings on vapes read the temp of wherever the indicator is located. Since that indicator is never inside the packed bowl, you never really get a 'true' reading of the material being vaped.

As the max temp is the max temp before the heating unit stops heating up. I.e. the max temp setting on my DaVinci is 405, but the readout has jumped as high as 430.... all of those numbers are relative.

Also as we know from other discussions / tests / physics, the temperature is only 1 component of heat. Total heat, efficiency etc.. are all important factors...

IMO the solo gets plenty hot compared to other portables, with just a stem set at 7, the vapor can get too hot for me, just like Pax, DaV etc...

In order to get more heat, you need a desktop model, temp settings will be similar, but the more heat will = faster/more efficient vaping

Planet Vapes -
out of stock of everything good I want for the SOLO, last website update message is from July.
PVHES bent OOS
GonG standard 14mm OOS
 

OF

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As I understand it there are host of chemicals released at 220'C/428'F. Will I be able to get those with a Solo (maybe by drawing slower or using drier material)?


In addition to what Pappy posted, the 'temp' readings on vapes read the temp of wherever the indicator is located. Since that indicator is never inside the packed bowl, you never really get a 'true' reading of the material being vaped.

What's the old advice (and Bond movie title)? 'Never say never'? In this case we have one data point that points to more questions than answers perhaps but does in fact have a temperature sensor inside the packed bowl. I described it a week or two back:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-solo.3833/page-729#post-450224

Several things of interest there IMO, provided my numbers are good of course. I plan to redo the tests again under more controlled draw conditions but two things I think are clear. The steps are much bigger than we're told, 20F per not 9? Secondly, much higher temperatures happen than most think. Or can happen. At step 6 (listed as 401F) I measured (in the center of the load, more or less) 430F. Assuming the 20 degrees per step holds true we can expect 450 to be possible?

I don't think you'll be unhappy with the performance on the higher steps.

OF
 

Hexi

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I remembered that test set up from back-reading the thread. Very cool stuff. I'm not an engineer, but perhaps the next crazy step would be to try to measure the temp of the vape itself instead of the load... for the Wiki?

I think the bottom line is for the Solo, you are good to go if you want the CBDs and other high temp actives.
 

air_zonk

Member
Hey guys.....
I read a whole lot of this thread (over 100 pages!!) before posting but i didnt see anything about my problem so hope it hasnt been asked already.

I got one of those mean well power adapters that gets recommended in here from Mouser and a adapterfrom EBAY. Well they both work great except for a few thing

1) I notice my Solo doesn't hold as much of a charge as before I started using the PA, like I will only get 2 or 3 sessions from a full charge before the batterys wiped out

2) If I use the Power Adapter plugged into the wall every couple sessions I will notice the battery level goes down..... is it normal for the battery to get used while its on the PA? Obviously its not using battery charge because I can do 8 or 9 sessions and only have it dip down a couple notches whereas it would be impossible to get 8 or 9 sessions in on the battery.

Hope my solo isnt messed up.... I have owned it for about 4 months now and use it every day. Thanks guys and peace
 
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Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
I vape a lot and lose about a light a day. As you can see by the other post on this page the person is going two weeks and is on 6. My solo has been plugged in all day and many sessions have been done and many will still be done. So yes to an extent it does use your battery.
 

Pipes

Addicted DIY Enthusiast
Accessory Maker
Hey guys.....
I read a whole lot of this thread (over 100 pages!!) before posting but i didnt see anything about my problem so hope it hasnt been asked already.

I got one of those mean well power adapters that gets recommended in here from Mouser and a adapterfrom EBAY. Well they both work great except for a few thing

1) I notice my Solo doesn't hold as much of a charge as before I started using the PA, like I will only get 2 or 3 sessions from a full charge before the batterys wiped out

2) If I use the Power Adapter plugged into the wall every couple sessions I will notice the battery level goes down..... is it normal for the battery to get used while its on the PA? Obviously its not using battery charge because I can do 8 or 9 sessions and only have it dip down a couple notches whereas it would be impossible to get 8 or 9 sessions in on the battery.

Hope my solo isnt messed up.... I have owned it for about 4 months now and use it every day. Thanks guys and peace
Hi air_zonk, welcome to the fun.
It sounds like you have a battery problem for sure. Either defective or have been depleted too far.
If 4 months old you can claim warranty? Or I believe I saw someone offering after-market cells here somewhere.
Dreamer is correct that batteries are still used to some degree in PA operation. In your case I think the batteries are in very bad condition and will likely continue to get worse.
Hope this helps.
 

salivape

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I've noticed an issue with my solo albeit not a major one. Say I have the temp set to 4, I decide to bump it up to 5 but the temp then drops back down to 2 and then heats back up as normal. I'd expect the possibility of the temp dropping a level as it does in normal use but it never drops more than one in a session as opposed to 2 levels when selecting temp. Does the heater disengage when you select a temp? Or maybe my battery is starting to struggle to keep up?

Am I alone or has anyone else noticed this?
 
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OF

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Say I have the temp set to 4, I decide to bump it up to 5 but the temp then drops back down to 2 and then heats back up as normal. I'd expect the possibility of the temp dropping a level as it does in normal use but it never drops more than one in a session as opposed to 2 levels when selecting temp. Does the heater disengage when you select a temp? Or maybe my battery is starting to struggle to keep up?

Yes, it does 'disengage' heating for several seconds, which might account for the drop you report. I've never seen it, but our techniques could be different enough to explain that?

OF
 

salivape

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Yes, it does 'disengage' heating for several seconds, which might account for the drop you report. I've never seen it, but our techniques could be different enough to explain that?

OF

Brilliant thanks, OF. I suspected that to be the case but I'm glad to have some confirmation. I do have a habit of trying to clear a bowl as quick as possible in favour of battery life so maybe I'm just overwhelming the heater somehow, although the drop in temp happens when I'm not drawing from it.

As I say it's not really an issue other than waiting a few extra seconds so I'm not worried. It performs as good as ever!
 

eLiguL

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M1A's and M1B's are the newest models .
But don't worry so much about the serial #'s .
Just charge it up , do the few burn offs ...if needed .
And ENJOY !

I want to hear you report back . :tup:

Just curious as to what was specific about my model but I couldnt find anything really. The Solo is everything I expected to be based on what ive read in this thread and on the wiki. So far my only gripe and it has nothing to do with Arizer is my PA from Jameco always manages to find a way to come loose, just 1mm or 2mm and my Solo shuts off.

Also, I need a PVHEgong, vapor bonging without one is cumbersome. I am using some silicone tubing from my Underdog to make the connections, it works but its finicky.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Just curious as to what was specific about my model but I couldnt find anything really.

It's been discussed a few times here, but perhaps this is a good time to repeat it. There have been on model changes (we know of) in quite some time. Nor are any expected.

Folks are confusing for model changes are production run numbers (not even serial, that is bigger numbers don't prove 'it's newer'). Numbers that most likely mean something to Arizer, but nothing really to us. Past the shift to the SS bowl, return to the original temperature settings and changing the calibration on the 'battery meter' function the only thing that seems to have changed is the number on the bottom. For quite a while now. It's a very mature product, really. Oh, yeah, some top covers are thicker than others with no apparent rime or reason.

Warranty is based on purchase date. The battery type used stores well. My advice is to enjoy your Solo, there's nothing to be concerned about.

Your call.

OF
 

samirfuzzywuzzy

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When speaking to PV they asked me if my solo top was plastic? I was like what do you mean?
Make a long story short supposedly some people have plastic tops while some have metal tops.
There seems to be difference in units but nothing worth marketing as a change or significant enough for us forum users to really need differentiation.
 

OF

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Oh, yeah, some top covers are thicker than others with no apparent rime or reason.

Make a long story short supposedly some people have plastic tops while some have metal tops.
There seems to be difference in units but nothing worth marketing as a change or significant enough for us forum users to really need differentiation.
Very interesting. I noticed there was a difference a while back while messing with rings, I posted this photo of the two I was working with at the time:



I didn't notice any difference other than the thickness at the time and I no longer have access to the thicker one. Can someone with the thicker version please confirm it's metal or plastic? TIA

So there may be 3 different tops? I noticed the two I had did not interchange well, making me wonder if the thread in the tube changed somewhere as well?

Anyway, I agree, such things are cosmetic not functional. Nothing to worry about.

Thanks for the interesting information.

OF
 

Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
I am not so swift with metal vs non metal but will try later. I can say the threading on the 102 is sucky big time. I will try interchanging them and clicking them with a coin to see if they sound the same as well.
 

samirfuzzywuzzy

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On my unit the PVHES would not enter my solo for one stem and the other stem made it about half way down. Working out the details with a planetvape guy we figured that they are making the cap hole tighter (possible to aid with loose-nes). I also have a thick cap like the left one but my hole has a totally tapered edges and I noticed that I have worn the hole much wider then what i received it as because the taper is almost gone and the hole shines brilliantly as if some one has been sanding the edge away.

I used an o-ring starting day 4 of my solo ownership. I have found that unlike many others have complained about, my o-ring has a "notch" to sit into and my cover screws down all the way with no stress on the bottom housing screws.

There are obvious things arizer seems to do to remedy particular problems but with no mention to the actual change.

This reminds of the time people told me ed's stems work great for them but it didn't produce a lisp of vapor for me. Turned out Ed's used different metal designs varying in shape and amount of total metal
 
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wilvape

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I've noticed an issue with my solo albeit not a major one. Say I have the temp set to 4, I decide to bump it up to 5 but the temp then drops back down to 2 and then heats back up as normal. I'd expect the possibility of the temp dropping a level as it does in normal use but it never drops more than one in a session as opposed to 2 levels when selecting temp. Does the heater disengage when you select a temp? Or maybe my battery is starting to struggle to keep up?

Am I alone or has anyone else noticed this?

This seems to be the way the light indicators work, when vaping the lights will only show 1 temp drop but in fact it will actually drop many, I play with this all the time vaporbonging , because of the Pvhegong and water I was pulling the solo from #7 to #2 so I now back off a little, the way I would check was take a big toke and just before I was done push the up button and the system resets itself and will actually show you where you are in the temp range.
 
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