luvdavape

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Some of us would rather have a warranty.

I understand your concern about the warranty. It stopped me from buying a used eNano but that was before I was familiar with the unit.

The only concern I think you should have concerning the warranty is the build. That's the only thing that would be tough to replicate. The heating element and dimmer switch are not that expensive. For instance the dimmer can be bought for under ten bucks.

So if your wood were to split or something like that Andy would have the right to charge you but I imagine it would be reasonable considering.

Other than that, there is just not that much to screw up or break.
 

bongin:it

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Leaving my NANO on 24/7 and using it as my daily driver.
I just got mine yesterday. Its my first vape so i still dont know what works best yet, but this is gonna stay plugged in any time im home.

Is it best to leave a full stem loaded and hit it when you want or load one hitters?
 
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I've read about this rattling sound, I have had a lot of log vapes including the UD, Hi, PD, and have played with zaps. I have NEVER once heard rattling in a log. I'm only asking because of an ad recently in the classifieds where someone explains this as being the norm.

WTF is that about? I've enjoyed what I've heard about the Nano and actually want one but feel held back until I get some clarity.

I would love it if some folks that share my love of logs (gigity) would come in the chat and talk a little bit about some of questions in regards to their experience with logs. The people that I asked before potentially buying the piece in the classifieds and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them said "what the fuck are you talking about" in regards to the rattle.

My thoughts maybe that this rattle is because of the screw in the model in which I hear may or may not have caused a failure.

Now, please don't tell me how you all seem fine with yours - I'm sure you do. I for one love my life and would like clarification on the proposed issues.

For fucks sake, I take warnings that involve a safety concern very seriously. Call me crazy - I hate fucking getting shocked and unlike some of you newer members I have been burnt by manufacturers and hope some of you could learn from me.

This looks like a dope device and could be potentially a contender for the crown but IMO - let's get fucking educated here folks!

Then let the party begin....

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ogcook

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I've read about this rattling sound, I have had a lot of log vapes including the UD, Hi, PD, and have played with zaps. I have NEVER once heard rattling in a log. I'm only asking because of an ad recently in the classifieds where someone explains this as being the norm.

WTF is that about? I've enjoyed what I've heard about the Nano and actually want one but feel held back until I get some clarity.

I would love it if some folks that share my love of logs (gigity) would come in the chat and talk a little bit about some of questions in regards to their experience with logs. The people that I asked before potentially buying the piece in the classifieds and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them said "what the fuck are you talking about" in regards to the rattle.

My thoughts maybe that this rattle is because of the screw in the model in which I hear may or may not have caused a failure.

Now, please don't tell me how you all seem fine with yours - I'm sure you do. I for one love my life and would like clarification on the proposed issues.

For fucks sake, I take warnings that involve a safety concern very seriously. Call me crazy - I hate fucking getting shocked and unlike some of you newer members I have been burnt by manufacturers and hope some of you could learn from me.

This looks like a dope device and could be potentially a contender for the crown but IMO - let's get fucking educated here folks!

Then let the party begin....

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Electricity is no joke! I've been hit my ~1,200 volts before, sure it was a really low amp but DAMN!

Never had the pleasure of getting to try out a nano but my UD has a 'shake' to it. But I also had to hold it up to my ear and almost shake it violently to hear anything. Far short of anything I would consider a "rattle". I would love to hear everyone else's thoughts and experiences as well though.
Who knows, maybe I'll get a nano down the line and get a chance to personally test and examine one. :tup:
 
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I've read about this rattling sound, I have had a lot of log vapes including the UD, Hi, PD, and have played with zaps. I have NEVER once heard rattling in a log. I'm only asking because of an ad recently in the classifieds where someone explains this as being the norm.

WTF is that about? I've enjoyed what I've heard about the Nano and actually want one but feel held back until I get some clarity.

I would love it if some folks that share my love of logs (gigity) would come in the chat and talk a little bit about some of questions in regards to their experience with logs. The people that I asked before potentially buying the piece in the classifieds and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them said "what the fuck are you talking about" in regards to the rattle.

My thoughts maybe that this rattle is because of the screw in the model in which I hear may or may not have caused a failure.

Now, please don't tell me how you all seem fine with yours - I'm sure you do. I for one love my life and would like clarification on the proposed issues.

For fucks sake, I take warnings that involve a safety concern very seriously. Call me crazy - I hate fucking getting shocked and unlike some of you newer members I have been burnt by manufacturers and hope some of you could learn from me.

This looks like a dope device and could be potentially a contender for the crown but IMO - let's get fucking educated here folks!

I'm fairly certain that none of those vapes are designed like the E-Nano, well besides the HI. There are no cases involving getting shocked with the E Nano and we definitely don't have any evidence that the noise can increase the risk of shock

That was my first E-Nano in the classifieds. The rattle (really more of a jingle) takes a while to develop, I've had my second Nano for about two months and there isn't any noise. The noise sounds exactly like what Andy describes, the ceramic element making contact with the stainless steel insert. I read somewhere about other logs rattling by a member or two and I believe that they said it was their zap but it could have been another log, I don't remember nor I can I find the posts... now I just sound crazy.

As far as the exact cause, I don't know as I have not disassembled my unit. Maybe I will if my current unit starts to jingle but as of now I don't have any plans to void my warranty.

Electricity is no joke! I've been hit my ~1,200 volts before, sure it was a really low amp but DAMN!

Never had the pleasure of getting to try out a nano but my UD has a 'shake' to it. But I also had to hold it up to my ear and almost shake it violently to hear anything. Far short of anything I would consider a "rattle". I would love to hear everyone else's thoughts and experiences as well though.
Who knows, maybe I'll get a nano down the line and get a chance to personally test and examine one. :tup:

Woohoo I don't feel so crazy now and it will probably never make a sound like the Nano given its design and use of a resistor instead of a ceramic element.


Edit: Somehow deleted from my original post. Enchantre (did I spell that right?) has a rattle with her E Nano as do a couple other members and they haven't had any problems with their vape. It just jingles.

I think the wood and climate are two important variables that impact this; in fact it would make sense if it is actually caused by the wood drying out.
 
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mvapes

Scratchin' Glass!
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after hearing stories of the infamous screw inside I wonder if the heat is causing the screw to expand and contract which may result in rattling.

I'm on my second Hi and the only complaint I have is that I can't sleep with it.

No rattling, no screw, and I can take mine completely apart and inspect it first hand. And trust me, I'm not saying the Nano can't perform as well as the Hi or even better - I'm just saying why I am holding back from buying one at this point.

When a manufacturer tells me that's normal in logs and I've used about a dozen without EVER encountering the issue. I have no choice but to kinda call bullshit on that.

Know what I mean fellas?
 
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z9

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When a manufacturer tells me that's normal in logs and I've used about a dozen without EVER encountering the issue. I have no choice but to kinda call bullshit on that.

Know what I mean fellas?

I'm pretty sure he never said it was normal in logs... just his.
 

ogcook

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I'm fairly certain that none of those vapes are designed like the E-Nano, well besides the HI. There are no cases involving getting shocked with the E Nano and we definitely don't have any evidence that the noise can increase the risk of shock
What? There was definitely someone who was shocked by their nano...

Off to find the post.
 
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z9

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What? There was definitely someone who was shocked by their nano...

Off to find the post.

No it was the EV-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And was brought up mistakenly in this thread by a mod.

There was an issue with one, but not a shock.
 
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ogcook

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No it was the EV-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And was brought up mistakenly in this thread by a mod.

There was an issue with one, but not a shock.
Are they not designed very similar? I don't remember it ever being resolved either.
 
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z9

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Are they not designed very similar? I don't remember it ever being resolved either.

No completely different, the EV-2 has a circuit board among other things inside it. This just has some wire nuts and a neon light.

And I don't know anything about the resolution of the problem. I've never had any problems with Andy.
 
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ogcook

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No completely different, the EV-2 has a circuit board among other things inside it. This just has some wire nuts and a neon light.

And I don't know anything about the resolution of the problem. I've never had any problems with Andy.
If it happened once before though I fear a 'fluke' may happen again.
But now I know the internals are different at least...
 
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z9

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If it happened once before though I fear a 'fluke' may happen again.
But now I know the internals are different at least...

Okay I was mistaken. There was a "spark" but Andy was not able to replicate it. He believes it was an issue with the temp knob. Here are his posts with the internals. There are other posts with a lot of information before and after Andy's post.

EDIT: Okay I was mistaken. There was a spark at the outlet but Andy was not able to replicate it. He believes it was an issue with the temp knob. Here are his posts with the internals. Please read the posts following the one in the link. Lots of good information there. IMO the whole thing really got blown out of proportion.
 
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ogcook

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Okay I was mistaken. There was a "spark" but Andy was not able to replicate it. He believes it was an issue with the temp knob. Here are his posts with the internals. There are other posts with a lot of information before and after Andy's post.
Electricity + Metal bottom = :uhoh:
Believing there isn't an issue and there not being an issue is VERY different though. Sure I have a 'low' chance of a spark happening, but what happens if I have a weak heart or a pace maker? Something sparks with spilled water from a piece or it coming up the downstem it could be disastrous. If it happened before then I would like to assured that it could NEVER happen again...
 
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z9

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Sorry I didn't edit that in time. The spark was not at the Nano but at the outlet and the base is anodized aluminum which isn't electrically conductive... did you read all the posts?

Edit: Fixed my last post
 
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ogcook

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Looking at the internals, direct picture and his diagram still don't make me feel any safer. An anodized surface could be scratched, that screw could come loose, wire nuts? Really? I'm not saying something 'will' happens I just a lot of room where it 'could' happen!
 
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Looking at the internals, direct picture and his diagram still don't make me feel any safer. An anodized surface could be scratched, that screw could come loose, wire nuts? Really? I'm not saying something 'will' happens I just a lot of room where it 'could' happen!
Let me address and clarify a few things. There has never been a reported case of a shock or a spark caused by the E-Nano. There was a user that saw a spark at the outlet when he plugged it in. This is normal for any device that is turned on when it is plugged in. I see a spark every time I plug in my macbook pro that I am writing this on.

In early units wire nuts connected the power wires to the heating element. This is an industry standard practice and I’ve never had a single issue with it. All of my solering guns use wire nuts. (None of my products use solder). I’ve done some brutal testing, using the Nanos as yo-yo’s etc and could never cause the cord to move enough to get the wires to pull out of the wire nuts. The mods of this forum decided that I (as well as other manufacturers on this forum) need to use crimped connections, which all Nanos now use. There is also a zip tie used for stress relief on the cord. Again, there has never been an issue that I am aware of in units without the zip tie, but the mods insist that I use one.

The rattle.

Yes some units experience the ceramic element hitting the side of the stainless steel tube. It can be a minor annoyance but there is absolutely no safety concern as there is no way this could lead to, or a cause a short of any kind. This issue has been addressed and fixed.

Like I’ve stated previously; I stand behind everything I make. If anybody has a unit that rattles, or has a unit with wire nuts and you are concerned about it. Email me direct at: Andy@epicvape.com and we’ll arrange to have your unit upgraded.
 

bongin:it

Member
Im gonna add 2 things to this b.s. becuse i went to college for electromechanical engineering. First, this is as safe as any other log out there as far as shock is conserned. This vape cant shock you unless there is either a failure of some sort(and it still wouldnt be easy to shock yourself) or your just an idiot and your doing something that no sane person would do. Second, isnt it just awsome looking?
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ogcook

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Let me address and clarify a few things. There has never been a reported case of a shock or a spark caused by the E-Nano. There was a user that saw a spark at the outlet when he plugged it in. This is normal for any device that is turned on when it is plugged in. I see a spark every time I plug in my macbook pro that I am writing this on.

In early units wire nuts connected the power wires to the heating element. This is an industry standard practice and I’ve never had a single issue with it. All of my solering guns use wire nuts. (None of my products use solder). I’ve done some brutal testing, using the Nanos as yo-yo’s etc and could never cause the cord to move enough to get the wires to pull out of the wire nuts. The mods of this forum decided that I (as well as other manufacturers on this forum) need to use crimped connections, which all Nanos now use. There is also a zip tie used for stress relief on the cord. Again, there has never been an issue that I am aware of in units without the zip tie, but the mods insist that I use one.

The rattle.

Yes some units experience the ceramic element hitting the side of the stainless steel tube. It can be a minor annoyance but there is absolutely no safety concern as there is no way this could lead to, or a cause a short of any kind. This issue has been addressed and fixed.

Like I’ve stated previously; I stand behind everything I make. If anybody has a unit that rattles, or has a unit with wire nuts and you are concerned about it. Email me direct at: Andy@epicvape.com and we’ll arrange to have your unit upgraded.
Thank you for this further explanation. Puts me more at ease.
 
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bongin:it

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Hey andy, ive been wondering if yoive considered using bois'd'ark wood for a vape? If i wasnt in a hurrywhen i ordered mine i would have asked if i could send you a block of wood
 
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