Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Atomsk

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
kindbeats said:
I'm not exactly conservative with my oil but I sure as shit don't have .5 at a time to keep throwing in hoping the thing starts to function the way it is supposed to. Call me crazy, but I'm one of those people that doesn't want to have to troubleshoot a product multiple times. I don't have an interest in taking things apart and figuring out what's wrong with them. We pay a price named by a company so that they can worry about
those things and we can enjoy the product hassle free.
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friedbanana8 said:
i was just pointing out this idea you've presented earlier and have now reuttered "im not exactly... it is supposed." pick a side mate. i hate these goddamn on the fencers. interesting that you bring the question of sanity into the discussion. Am i crazy for thinking that oil cant just disappear out of existence?

this must be the only other possible conclusion, really...
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My experience with the Hercules thus far is directly in line with KindBeat's.

You can't be crazy on that notion FriedBanana, but neither can two or more people who are experiencing the same issue (however, to think that your idea of conservatism in oil is going to be the same as another person off the go, is a little crazy).

There is nowhere near the amount of oil loaded that translates to vapor or reclaim. I have iso-bathed this thing twice, mouthpiece, heater, everything but the ceramic rod (which I'm thinking I should do, this thing has a black ring and brown staining on it), and I don't get my oil back. I'm racking my brains as to where the fuck it's going, trust me. I'm not exactly keen on losing $140 and not trying to find it.

The Hercules, even in Skype sessions where I followed all of G's instructions, just didn't produce consistently enough to justify the oil consumption.

I am inclined at this point to believe that somewhere in the universe, all our missing socks and keys are covered in bho.
 
kindbeats

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
friedbanana8 said:
i was just pointing out this idea you've presented earlier and have now reuttered "im not exactly... it is supposed." pick a side mate. i hate these goddamn on the fencers. interesting that you bring the question of sanity into the discussion. Am i crazy for thinking that oil cant just disappear out of existence?
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Someone is a little wired over something that isn't effecting them, eh? I'm going to address this one time only because the rules state that back and forth bickering isn't tolerated. You were the one who was condescending, not I. I'm not on the fence about anything and don't call me "mate" if you're going to insult me in your next sentence. I don't need any fake friends, thank you very much. Also, you labeled me "conservative", I didn't. Having to conserve what's left of my stash and being a conservative person are two different things.

Regarding your "am I crazy thinking that oil cant just disappear out of existence" comment, I don't think anyone said that their oil was disappearing into nowhere. I said that I'm not getting much vapor at all (insinuating that some oil actually is being vaped and that I'm not getting the herculean rips that I used to get from the v1) and that I didn't see over 1 gram of unused oil inside of my Hercules. Again, you have nothing invested in this so please feel free to refrain from commenting on MY problem. You know, that same problem that a bunch of other people (also previous v1 Herc owners) besides me are also experiencing.

Thanks for playing. Buh-bye. :wave:
 
Caligula

Caligula

Maximus
I did a reclaim on all my parts including the coil. Ill get pics up after the evaporating process is complete tomorrow. I can tell u this though... even after soaking in 99% ISO for 12+ hours, my oil coil still reeks like my honey oil.
 
Caligula,
friedbanana8

friedbanana8

Well-Known Member
Atomsk said:
My experience with the Hercules thus far is directly in line with KindBeat's.

You can't be crazy on that notion FriedBanana, but neither can two or more people who are experiencing the same issue (however, to think that your idea of conservatism in oil is going to be the same as another person off the go, is a little crazy).

There is nowhere near the amount of oil loaded that translates to vapor or reclaim. I have iso-bathed this thing twice, mouthpiece, heater, everything but the ceramic rod (which I'm thinking I should do, this thing has a black ring and brown staining on it), and I don't get my oil back. I'm racking my brains as to where the fuck it's going, trust me. I'm not exactly keen on losing $140 and not trying to find it.

The Hercules, even in Skype sessions where I followed all of G's instructions, just didn't produce consistently enough to justify the oil consumption.

I am inclined at this point to believe that somewhere in the universe, all our missing socks and keys are covered in bho.
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the thing is that im not the one that said he was conservative. He described his notion of conservatism when he complained about throwing 2 weeks worth of wax down the drain which obviously implies he was somewhat emotionally attached to that wax, which is what it is to be conservative. Now you i cant contend with, because you actually had enough sense to check for the reclaim before coming to the conclusion that the herc made it disappear. He could have very well boiled it all away. we'll never know now though. and thats slippery ground to come in on when trying to pin those losses on the design of the herc.
 
THC SCIENTIFIC

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
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kindbeats

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
friedbanana8 said:
the thing is that im not the one that said he was conservative. He described his notion of conservatism when he complained about throwing 2 weeks worth of wax down the drain which obviously implies he was somewhat emotionally attached to that wax, which is what it is to be conservative. Now you i cant contend with, because you actually had enough sense to check for the reclaim before coming to the conclusion that the herc made it disappear. He could have very well boiled it all away. we'll never know now though. and thats slippery ground to come in on when trying to pin those losses on the design of the herc.
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You are looking like a fool over and over again. Once again, you have misquoted me. The bolded statement above in your quote was referring to a completely different poster. I never once said that I'm out two weeks worth of wax. That was another poster all together. And again, you ignore the fact that I did in fact check for reclaim and there was nowhere close to a gram of it. What part of this don't you understand and what is it that you have against me? You were wrong. Get over it.

EDIT: Mods, if this guy wants to keep up the pointless arguing, I'm over it. You won't see any more responses from me. All I'm interested in is figuring out how to get my Herc to work properly. Nothing more, nothing less.

mod note: You should have stopped the argument with your last post. Name calling is not allowed.
 
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Happyendin21

Member
THC SCIENTIFIC said:
I want to see the adjustable spring plate that's inside the Persei.

For the people who are having an issue with the new tops, this is most likely the cause.


Now of the people who get heat and no vapor how are you guys using the stainless top cap?

Are you installing it in the mouth piece then screwing it on? Or are you installing it then screwing on the mouth piece?
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Directly answering this question. I have tried inserting the aaf washer then putting on the Teflon sheath and mouthpiece with the mouthpiece nut backed out a couple turns. I have tried also just pressing it in all the way to the coil the inserted the mouthpiece. And there seems no difference
 
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friedbanana8

friedbanana8

Well-Known Member
kindbeats said:
Thanks for playing. Buh-bye. :wave:
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kindbeats said:
You are looking like a fool over and over again. Once again, you have misquoted me. The bolded statement above in your quote was referring to a completely different poster. I never once said that I'm out two weeks worth of wax. That was another poster all together. And again, you ignore the fact that I did in fact check for reclaim and there was nowhere close to a gram of it. What part of this don't you understand and what is it that you have against me? You were wrong. Get over it.

EDIT: Mods, if this guy wants to keep up the pointless arguing, I'm over it. You won't see any more responses from me. All I'm interested in is figuring out how to get my Herc to work properly. Nothing more, nothing less.
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watch your step, you're on another fence mate
alright thats the last one i promise, god im so gone of this sticky
 
friedbanana8,
PhotoRider

PhotoRider

Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
oddvegan said:
Hey Folks, sorry for just jumping in here, but I couldn't find any way to make a new post....
I am hoping someone may be able to help me out, i have been trying to get in touch with w9 but am not getting through....i got replacement parts for my persei today, this one says persei under the power button...when i put batteries in it and screw one of the tops on it lights up as it is getting screwed on and goes out when completelybon. Is this normal?
Now I do not know how to use this me, my old one was just push the button and you were ready to go...with this one the blue light flashes twice and goes out, with fully charged batteries 3.7, 7.4 does the same with both and with both single and double top, same story.
Anybody know what I am doing wrong, can you help me out? I really want to get it working!
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The light flashing on installation is normal. It will also flash on movement sometimes - safety feature I believe to showdown on fall...
This how a new head works now.

The flashing operation on use is either low batteries or an over current condition - aka short or near it.

Does the head flash w/o a cart installed?
 
Mynameismud

Mynameismud

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
PhotoRider said:
The light flashing on installation is normal. It will also flash on movement sometimes - safety feature I believe to showdown on fall...
This how a new head works now.

The flashing operation on use is either low batteries or an over current condition - aka short or near it.

Does the head flash w/o a cart installed?
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Flashing could also be from the timer cut off on the persei? The button on mine stays lit for about 30 seconds then flashes and stops
 
Mynameismud,
PhotoRider

PhotoRider

Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Caligula said:
Maybe it worked too well and he forgot? Heh.

Also where is good oil only $25/g? I'm paying 50-60. Usually 60. :(
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here its $20/g... and no more than $30

Mynameismud said:
Flashing could also be from the timer cut off on the persei? The button on mine stays lit for about 30 seconds then flashes and stops
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Yes, the timer does that now, but if the light flashes immediately there is over current.
 
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Happyendin21

Member
THC SCIENTIFIC said:
Guys I'm simply baffled. I have taken 10 Hercules of the production line and can not recreate any of the issues you have described. I am just baffled.

Only thing else is drive down to Sam Diego just to see these hercs in person.
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Sounds great except I'm In Colorado..... I may have to try Skype, but I guess if that didn't fix their problems mine may be the same. I am awaiting the aw batteries before I get super flabbergasted over why I cant get any vape. Though I can also hear the oil bubbling inside while running with no ptfe sheath... Don't know if that helps..
 
Happyendin21,
Mynameismud

Mynameismud

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
PhotoRider said:
here its $20/g... and no more than $30


Yes, the timer does that now, but if the light flashes immediately there is over current.
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Ah okay didnt read the original post just saw yours. Sorry for the confusion

Happyendin21 said:
Sounds great except I'm In Colorado..... I may have to try Skype, but I guess if that didn't fix their problems mine may be the same. I am awaiting the aw batteries before I get super flabbergasted over why I cant get any vape. Though I can also hear the oil bubbling inside while running with no ptfe sheath... Don't know if that helps..
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Im having a similar issue i think, although i am getting decent results on occasion. Heres whats been happening. Ill load it up with oil, heat it for 5-10 seconds and watch it melt into coil. Load a little more and then as soon as i press the button i start seeing vapor. So at this point i put the black outer shell on, then the stainless cap, then the mouthpiece. Go to hit it and then i either get really whispy vapor or no vapor at all. Take mouthpiece off again and Im noticing that its taking about 10-20 seconds for me to even see the rod glow and then the timer is cutting in. once the timer cuts it off though is when i can hear/see the oil starts bubbling and vapor production.

So basically if I hold the button until the timer cuts off and then press the button and start hitting it i get great results(but i feel like im wasting a lot of oil because i load about .5 melt then top off with another .2 or .3 but with the preheating and then hitting im only getting about 3-5 good hits and then need to reload. also if i load it and try to hit it right after nothing or whispy vapor....
 
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PhotoRider

PhotoRider

Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
G - I suggest its a great idea to troubleshoot this issue in person once - aka San Diego.
I am sure it is solvable and a procedure issue (positive thinking).

Then post what you found. Maybe its in common and this will go a long way to helping.
The issue is you can't duplicate it at the factory which is the key.
 
Atomsk

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
Mynameismud said:
So basically if I hold the button until the timer cuts off and then press the button and start hitting it i get great results(but i feel like im wasting a lot of oil because i load about .5 melt then top off with another .2 or .3 but with the preheating and then hitting im only getting about 3-5 good hits and then need to reload. also if i load it and try to hit it right after nothing or whispy vapor....
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That's exactly what happens. Takes the rod quite a while to heat up most of the time, and wispy hits or else nothing. Although, I'm not sure if you are losing oil the way some of us are. Are you able to reclaim what you load, or notice a good vapor production to oil consumption ratio?

PhotoRider said:
G - I suggest its a great idea to troubleshoot this issue in person once - aka San Diego.
I am sure it is solvable and a procedure issue (positive thinking).

Then post what you found. Maybe its in common and this will go a long way to helping.
The issue is you can't duplicate it at the factory which is the key.
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Seconded. I'm entirely sure the problem is in some way we're assembling it. Little tweaks that could change the whole thing. I know the manual points out some details like exposing the topmost tungsten strip on the ceramic rod, or screwing in each piece with the Hercules logo "H" side first. The only other thing I can think of is that the rod is malfunctioning, either by being pushed too deeply in to the upper heating chamber or some other way contact is lost.

thevaf said:
Is it possible for someone attending to Skype or record the SD session for those who may have the same issues but cannot make it to San Diego?
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Definitely, I'll see what I can do in terms of recording. If anything, I'll do a write-up with pictures and a more informed step-by-step procedure that we'll make sure works every time. Don't know if you guys noticed, but I like to write. A lot.
 
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Happyendin21

Member
Update after my latest try with fresh batts found some oil about .2 (rough guess) in the top aaf washer and the inside of the mouthpiece. I haven't had it leak downwards by mine is leaking upwards. Lol.. not sure if it helps just my latest try.. I have faith that in the company to take care of us
 
Happyendin21,
Caligula

Caligula

Maximus
thevaf said:
Is it possible for someone attending to Skype or record the SD session for those who may have the same issues but cannot make it to San Diego?
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I can probably do that.

I got a large amount of reclaim back.I'd estimate well over a gram, and more like 1.5

Ill get pics when I'm not on my cell.
 
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thevaf

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to share some more info:

I noticed that when I was using the stock 18350 batteries with my SR-71 (white rod @ 7.4v), towards the end of the battery life the Herc would heat and get hot but not produce satisfactory vapor.

I did not have the same experience when I used the AW 18350's. They would produce vapor all the way to the end of the batteries, then blink out 3 time to signal it needs a charge.

I think AW batteries should be a minimum requirement when using a power hungry device like the Hercules SR-71.
 
OF

OF

Well-Known Member
thevaf said:
I think AW batteries should be a minimum requirement when using a power hungry device like the Hercules SR-71.
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You're not alone there, Brother! Only the inexperienced and those too deep in denial to save don't appreciate the AW IMRs in this application. None better I know of. Tough little guys as well.

No doubt the reason D9 recommends them.....they ain't dumb.

OF
 
Caligula

Caligula

Maximus
Okay, so this is the reclaim I obtained from the Herc. There is more then I actually thought here too. Probably close to 2 grams. I put the drops next to it for perspective (didn't have a dollar on me).

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/4949/xonp.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img202/7255/ak35.jpg

Another question though... (@BLAZING OG ?) since my SR-71 is down for the count at the moment, I switched back to the 1.5ohm carts I had sitting around. Got some new wax, and this stuff is pretty solid at room temp. Id say its more like taffy. Very stringy and I can play with it for a few seconds before it starts to stick to my fingers.

Anyway, it took FOREVER to get some vapor/flavor out of it (priming), and now I still cant get anything but whispy hits. I've added the better part of a gram too (started with .5 and got nothing). Any help? My only experience with these carts has been with oil.

@THC SCIENTIFIC I tried calling in this afternoon, but I guess you weren't in. Left a message with Naiomi(?).
 
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