Oldie do you think the cloud ishands down the beat Vape youve used in comparison to theQ and others youve used?
Absolutely. Now, I haven't used as many different vapes as some others. People still talk about the PD and for performance the Life Saber has a great reputation, although it is not so easy to use.
As mvapes posted, the PerpetuaHeat system is really special. You will get the vapor you want regardless of how hard or soft, short or long, that you pull. And it never falls off requiring the vape to recover temp, you can hit it hard as fast as you can w/o a drop. You get performance of other vapes at a comparatively lower temp. The extraction is phenomenal, due to the consistent heat plus the turbulence and pressurization in the ELB.
As far as the build quality is concerned, the first Cloud was uneven. There are a lot of the original units still performing like champs; this was probably the best generation before the EVO even though improvements were made thereafter up to the Plus version. The Plus is arguably better than the original - it certainly had a better heater and firmware - but unfortunately there was disreputable behavior (subsequently resulting in litigation) by VXL's manufacturer which made the Plus quality unpredictable. It was VXL's mistake though to not be on top of this earlier.
Wearing my old hat as an engineer, and having taking the unit apart myself, I can say that the Cloud was designed for performance but not for "manufacturability" or "serviceability"; these are advanced concepts not typically found in a cottage industry (like vapes) and especially not in small new start-ups. Actually, VXL started to work on these concepts after a change in engineering staff and with the introduction of the Plus improvements. But while the internal physical design was much better, there still was not enough attention to process management, which in fairness, even if done well can be undermined by a crooked contractor, as VXL experienced.
Bottom line, I have confidence in the EVO given the technical resources being used and VXL's decision to vertically integrate. I believe there is a realization now that quality is not tested into a product, it is designed into it. With VXL having full control and having learned from its mistakes, it has all the pieces in place for a superb product. Now it's all about execution.
EDIT: Great progress and results on the various mods, guys!!!
EDIT EDIT: Just picked up my new female/female adapter and it does indeed fit perfectly on to the Q. Thanks DDave for that link. In a couple weeks I hope to try my own tests (which is part of the fun, no?).
) that worked too but not as tight.
. My biggest gripe was getting burnt by the cyclone bowl. May I ask where you got the f/f adapter?
, but I was hoping to find a male>female with a handy handle (scuse the pun) It would be perfect for my upside down setup.
Ive been using the eq upside down on top of a carbon adapter>bubbler. Works good but its delicate, waiting to get my hydratube so i can turn right way up.