Exactly ... if successful, I save $35 in shipping and a 1 month wait time, if unsuccessful, it costs me an extra $15 for rebuild correct?
Discontinued Thermovape Cera
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darkrom
Great Scott!
I have no idea what they charge if you tear it apart and break it. I'd double check with them.
OF
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I agree, it's your property, do as you think best. My concern is encouraging others to follow suit. No problem if that includes that important detail and the warning that this process involves steps known to have caused damage in the past.
Agreed. Warranty and the $15 extension of it specifically exclude user caused damage. I strongly suspect they'd consider this intentional damage. Their instructions are to not disassemble the core. In the case above I'd figure $100 as the price of goofing it up, not $15.
That's the (realistic) downside of doing this as I understand things. You can trash your core.
I recommend guys not neglect normal cleaning so it gets so fouled that the liquids can't penetrate. The cleaner the concentrate the longer you can go, but fouling is fouling and should be cleaned out at the appropriate time I think......the better to enjoy your Cera.
OF
Good Morning,
Thermo Essence Technologies does not recommend disassembling the core. Taking the core apart should be avoided at all costs and will put the unit at risk of failure. If your unit is becoming clogged try the self-cleaning technique of 20 seconds on time and 20 seconds of off time. Repeat this process 10-15 times to burn off any excess impurities. Following this process you can soak the core in isopropyl alcohol overnight and repeat the self-cleaning 20/20 process to dry the unit prior to reloading. Disassembling the core will expose the fragile ceramic components and likely lead to breakage of some kind.
Thermo Essence Technologies does not recommend disassembling the core. Taking the core apart should be avoided at all costs and will put the unit at risk of failure. If your unit is becoming clogged try the self-cleaning technique of 20 seconds on time and 20 seconds of off time. Repeat this process 10-15 times to burn off any excess impurities. Following this process you can soak the core in isopropyl alcohol overnight and repeat the self-cleaning 20/20 process to dry the unit prior to reloading. Disassembling the core will expose the fragile ceramic components and likely lead to breakage of some kind.
OF
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I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I was saying abandoning it and buying a new one would be the downside. I've no idea what they might charge, nor do I think t hey would having never done it. However, I agree, by the time you paid them to build a new core......
And then there's saved shipping and time.
Yeah, butch the threaded holes and you start over. The heater has to go, maybe the insulators can be saved, perhaps the screws? But it all comes to bits. Probably better to start with fresh parts labor wise.
OF
Well it looks like my post caused a little stir. My thought is I have had so many problems with my Cera I was about to do a boil clean and sell the dam thing. I have sent in my core 3 times the switch 2 times and the body once! Thats a lot and I was willing to take a chance on further damaging it. I think it is way easier than you let people think OF, I am for self help not just sending in something every time there is a problem and with the Cera there is a lot of problems. After taking it apart I realized that there would be no way to fully clean the core once it got carbonized like that. My oil is like amber honey (very clean) but I still had MAD build up but now its like new. Feel free to keep sending your stuff in but I see it as a waste of gas, effort, time,, money, anger etc. Sure the core is delicate but so is my nuts and I seem to handle those just fine. Ill try to post some pics today if I have some time just so you guys who want to DIY and fix the problems. PEACE
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I see you want people to just send in there problem child at the first sigh of trouble. I think you should post some actual videos of maintenance/cleaning/taking it apart just like the older TET videos. Seems like the CERA is a mystical being that only a TRAINED PRO can fix, HA! I am tired of waiting weeks for repairs, I am talking over 6 weeks between all of my repairs. I missed 3 big concerts this summer without my Cera because of it being a piece of shit, but now I know how it works and feel strongly I can fix most issues that arise now because I went against the grain and took it apart. Its so easy its funny how much I have struggled with it and how much I have sucked my brains out trying to get a draw. Viva la revolucion!
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JoeKickass
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If anyone takes apart their core please post pics!
jpdnkstr
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I'll be purchasing a Cera EO as soon as funds allow. The attention to detail on the customer service end makes all of the other bumps in the CERA road ok for me. I own every gen 1 product TET put out(multiples of a few!) The rebuild program is phenomenal! Other than funds, and the ceramic body, holding me back from Cera is the flawless performance of my DARTS! I will still pull the trigger soon, because I know TET will be there for me!
coffinoff
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I just had the same thought this afternoon. T1 is a decent little piece and I'm still planning to pursue repair on my Dart but its worth it to me to just have a backup Cera. I put in my order a few hours ago.
What's the verdict on the "moisture conditioner"? Gimmick or real deal? I added one to my order just for kicks but I'm not real sure what to expect.
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Let me just start by saying that i don't recommend taking apart any of the cores, there are lots of very fine threads and tiny parts that can easily be destroyed by someone not experienced.
This being said, they were designed to be able to be rebuilt many times. This was for the reason that if TET were to build an 'upgraded' V2.0 core it could be just an uncharged rebuild fee. (cost dependant on how many parts were changed). This lets TET take them apart many times without worrying about damaging any of the major components, maybe just replace a few set screws.
Again let me remind you that I DO NOT recommend opening up a core unless you are trained and experienced. You can and likely will damage some of the components which would lead to a more costly rebuild of the core.
Now knowing all of the risks, let me tell you that there is really not much too a core. ~15 parts for a CLL and ~20 for a CEO. Very simple and very modular. Im one of the type of people that even if i was just a customer i would probably end up opening one up and mess around with it knowing it would probably be garbage after. If i were careful enough maybe even make some of my own coils and play around with how the ceramic is stacked.*at your own risk*
Cheers,
Tim
'Formerly Tim'
This being said, they were designed to be able to be rebuilt many times. This was for the reason that if TET were to build an 'upgraded' V2.0 core it could be just an uncharged rebuild fee. (cost dependant on how many parts were changed). This lets TET take them apart many times without worrying about damaging any of the major components, maybe just replace a few set screws.
Again let me remind you that I DO NOT recommend opening up a core unless you are trained and experienced. You can and likely will damage some of the components which would lead to a more costly rebuild of the core.
Now knowing all of the risks, let me tell you that there is really not much too a core. ~15 parts for a CLL and ~20 for a CEO. Very simple and very modular. Im one of the type of people that even if i was just a customer i would probably end up opening one up and mess around with it knowing it would probably be garbage after. If i were careful enough maybe even make some of my own coils and play around with how the ceramic is stacked.*at your own risk*
Cheers,
Tim
'Formerly Tim'
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darkrom
Great Scott!
I can attest to this. I got a T1 really early on, before serial numbers in fact, and the design was improved and some additional collar of sorts was no longer needed. I sent it in because the older design locked up on me or something, and thermovape sent me the new core right out. No hassles nice brand new core.
I had totally forgotten about that until now. Vaporizers and their companies EARN my loyalty. I have no problems saying when I hate something, when something is good but not for me, and when I plain love it. Thermovape has earned my level of "fan-boyism" for sure. They did me right, and their vapes keep impressing me. I won't sugarcoat it, I can't think of a single portable that feels as CLEAN and SAFE as the thermovape line. Plenty others work, but thermovape really leads in that aspect in my book. The fact that they are ridiculously efficient doesn't hurt anything either.
The porous ceramics inside the unit are fragile and light. They are not rigid and can be scraped with a fingernail as an example of their rigidity. Scraping them with a cleaning utensil is certain to break them down in some way. To have the core rebuilt is around $15 dollars, I'm not sure where the $100 dollars comes from... The self cleaning method has worked great for me for the past 6 months. I have had no issues and not taken my unit apart.
If your talking about the smooth-flow moisture conditioning mouthpiece, I would say its kind of both.
I dont really notice a difference after running water through it. Maybe for the first drag is slightly smoother but it would be mighty annoying to run water through it after every hit. I got it with my Dart, and onky used it once.
For the EO core I like it wayy better then just the delrin mouthpiece IMO. It adds a little length so the mouthpiece doesnt get too hot, you dont have to worry about it melting, it fits well, and the bottom cleans up easily
Although, if you have or are getting the ceramic mouthpiece with the cera, then the smooth flow isnt really needed. Although there is a slightly more restricted draw with the smooth flow compared to the ceramic if you prefer that.
The $100 dollars came from OF making a point and everyone reading it wrong or getting confused. He was stating that if you take the core apart your voiding the warranty, so if you screw something up when taking it apart you just went from a free to $15 rebuild to basically having a trashed core that youll have to spend $100 to replace. I think OF already tried to clear things up but i figured id add this since you may have missed it
coffinoff
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Indeed, thanks for the info. I like the idea, my throat gets overheated at times, but it sounds like execution might be lacking somewhat. Not much you can do to keep something that small from drying out fairly quickly as you're pulling hot air through it, I guess.
Thought about trying a Nibbler X as well but it almost seems like at that point you might as well consider something even more substantial.
Severmore
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I was looking to replace the small, black o-rings on the bottom of the Delrin MP/smooth flow conditioner. With removal and insertion of the mouthpiece, bits of o-ring are tearing off.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I'm sorry! Looking back, I don't know why I commented. I have no experience with those and for some reason I was confident that they didn't involve o-rings.
Hope you find what you're looking for.
VapoRoor
DAB-a-DAB I'll dooooo
I've had this issue with the o-ring before. If you get a new one or with your old one try this tip.
This may come off as intrusive, you've been warned.
Lick your finger (drink some water first, we all get cottonmouth)
Gently roll the delrin mouthpieces' o-ring on the edge of your finger
The saliva will ease with removing/inserting the mp (mouthpiece)
When putting/taking the mp on/off, give it a sort of twist and push down or pull up.
Always works for me
Just some
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Well some of you die hards may like this, ive been researching a bunch of mechanical mods and other DIY ecigs and came across this little gem. http://fatdaddyvapes.com/maintenance.html
The "Bottom switch" items look kinda interesting, haven't heard back yet about what the threads are.
Tim
The "Bottom switch" items look kinda interesting, haven't heard back yet about what the threads are.
Tim
That's so awesome. I have searched the world for a suitable latching switch. I'm currently using a very poorly made and under-sized latching switch that is due to break any day. As dangerous as it is, I would never use my Cera without my latching switch. It has changed the way I use it. Let me know if this switch will work. I'll buy one immediately
OF
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I see nothing at all to indicate it's latching, am I missing something? Given it's aimed at the e-cig guys I'd be surprised if it wasn't momentary since they seem to be in the 'grab a fast hit or two' business? It's us and our thicker oils and herb that are driving that part I think.
OF
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Why not just buy a couple of them?
If one needs service the song remains the same!
coffinoff
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Got the shipping notice for my new Cera today. Turn around time sure has improved in the past few months!
Got my other one boxed up and shipped out for repair as well. It'll definitely be nice having a redundant backup once that gets fixed. Zeki at TET has been happily responding to my annoying emails for the past couple days too, which is a big comfort.
Got my other one boxed up and shipped out for repair as well. It'll definitely be nice having a redundant backup once that gets fixed. Zeki at TET has been happily responding to my annoying emails for the past couple days too, which is a big comfort.