Shmoo
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"Or just start with high, it should work just as well, but the taste won't be ideal."
On low the taste is slightly better. It still tastes good on high, it's just not the best the pinnacle can do.
The Pinnacle by Vaporblunt
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On low the taste is slightly better. It still tastes good on high, it's just not the best the pinnacle can do.
Alright I received my unit today. Holy shit this thing is much smaller then expected. My first time trying I only took two hits because I have work soon. Tastes good but I feel like the mouthpiece gets very hot on my lips. Also after reading through post after post and seeing people unhappy with vapor production, I think I figured it out. The heating element is on the sides of the bullet while the screen is all the way on the bottom.
I figure to increase vapor production you can improve the bullet by somehow adding more screen. This would be cheap and would improve vapor quality most likely.
Also does any one else's unit stay very hot at the top?
I figure to increase vapor production you can improve the bullet by somehow adding more screen. This would be cheap and would improve vapor quality most likely.
Also does any one else's unit stay very hot at the top?
lookhigh
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If u r getting a lot of heat on mp its usually your weed that's still moist. dryer is better also for cloud production, u'll notice this as you get further into a session. top of unit gets hot but can still hold it.
how?
Dreamerr
Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
There is a learning curve but it is easily done. I don't think I can explain how. I also only use low so heat isn't the issue. If you are only using a mouth piece instead of a pong that can be the issue. You might want to extend your air path if you only have a mp and that might help. A few pages back I used no mp/pong but a glass straw and had great results till I dropped the straw off and the bullet went into my shoe.
So basically i need that pong?
Too show that i am actually getting vapor and not just hot air. Some people say it takes them 2 10 minute sessions to finish a bullet. This leads me to the conclusion that the heated air is not getting to the herb as much as it should. This is why i say the bullet needs more screen.
Pickz
Vapes on vapes on vapes!
I had said that at one point, but I was still getting it down. I was loading it too full and now I can get through a bullet in a session or usually end up turning it off early anyways and have another session (with that same bullet) in a little bit.
I just feel i dont get enough vapor production that is all. I wonder if VB can release new bullets for biggest production and then keep the bullets they already have and sell the reg ones and call them stealth bullets and then the new bullets for more vapor production.
toros23
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I doubt you will find many of us here who think the bullets need re-engineering. It is a long thread but if you take the time to read it you will get lots of great tips.
I did read but there is 90 pages.. how do you grind/pack for biggest cloud production?
You know, I actually kind of agree with him though. I feel like most of the heat that is being produced by this vape is getting wasted; the airstream coming out of the pinnacle is very hot, hot enough to melt it's own flavored mouthpieces, but the clouds are surprisingly small.
I think that if the bullets were redesigned to have a closed bottom with punched holes, or if the teflon base of the heat exchanger could have several smaller, evenly spaced openings; then heat penetration of this airstream would increase and so would the clouds
Yes exactly.. I think its the bullet that is the problem of this. If the Inhalator is able to produce huge clouds so should this thing. Same as the Solo too. Its the way the air hits the herb. I feel like it completely skips the herb and thats why you only get little wisps.
toros23
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CentiZen - I understand what you are saying but I don't have any problems getting clouds or even milking my Ion. I use a medium grind, make sure I get lots of airflow and let the heat build between pulls. I never use high setting either. There are some videos out there that show others getting big clouds. If I remember correctly, there are a few at the beginning of this thread that I think helped convince me to pull the trigger.
Some people have had good results with not using a bullet at all... I'm not entirely sure why this is the case, but I would imagine it has to do with the herb being right against the holes in the bottom of the heat exchanger and preventing the air flow from calming and becoming laminar in nature as it passes through, taking the path of least resistance around the herb.
When you say you make sure you get a lot of air flow, do you mean you loosely space your herb in the bullet? Or am I misreading this?
I suppose there could be another factor influencing this then - perhaps it is hot spots forming in the bullet when people pack the bullet to tight. Sort of like what would happen in the T1, only without combustion since the temperature is regulated in this unit. Honestly I noticed a similar effect in the Inhalater when I packed the capsule too tight, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Sir Dankies, I don't have a unit myself but I would be interested in hearing your experience with loosely packing the bullet.
toros23
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No, I don't pack loose but I don't pack tight. There is some conduction at work here so you don't want things too loose. I feel a little resistance when I pull but it is not wide open. When I am done everything is toasted nice and evenly. I use a SC shredder if that helps to understand the grind.
lookhigh
FC member
charge needed.
I never use the high setting get clouds from middle to end session. would even turn down temp at that stage as its gets to tickle for me.
Belgianvapor
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so, not sure if anybody tried it before, I follow the tread rather closely but I might missed it :
I was messing around with my mflb a while ago and playing with ridiculous small amounts, wich still
gave me some good clouds and I wanted to try it with the Pinnacle, so I filled the bullet loosely untill about
2/4th or 3/4th of the screen part of the bullet was filled, not packing at all, and I started on orange right away, well, I got great clouds, very good medication and it lasted almost the whole session, taste was more than ok, this was less than 0.05 gram
It won't provide the same level of medication as a full bullet of course but it will medicate better than expected, I really love this thing!
I was messing around with my mflb a while ago and playing with ridiculous small amounts, wich still
gave me some good clouds and I wanted to try it with the Pinnacle, so I filled the bullet loosely untill about
2/4th or 3/4th of the screen part of the bullet was filled, not packing at all, and I started on orange right away, well, I got great clouds, very good medication and it lasted almost the whole session, taste was more than ok, this was less than 0.05 gram
It won't provide the same level of medication as a full bullet of course but it will medicate better than expected, I really love this thing!
Shmoo
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Well dude you must not have read far because I responded to you two pages ago, and explained EXACTLY how I grind and pack my bullets for great vapor production and full extraction.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-pinnacle-by-vaporblunt.8431/page-90#post-414261
To which you responded, "The taste is bad on high??" which I never said in the first place. So maybe re-read that.