The Pinnacle by Vaporblunt
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So does that mean all the pongs/mp's we have now will have the same issue? I was never concerned about staining but going into the pores of the plastic is a bit off putting. I had also stated that I barely used iso except with a q-tip so I had no fogging as you had determined.
Bottom line is now what happens with all our old mp's and pong's because chipping is not kewl. I was very careful puting mine on and off and can't understand how it would have chipped unless it was that creeping that you are talking about. This will also mean that the mp/pongs need to be replaced ever few months.
The New PonG's will not have this issue, since we are increasing the wall thickness. I literally got the tooling samples for this change in the same truck that your units came to us in.
I got to try one of these little guys for the first time yesterday - and I was happy to finally get to see one in action. Very interesting little vape.
The bullets, and vape itself were much smaller than the sense I got from looking at the pictures. I only used the mouthpiece and thought that the vapor was very reminiscent of my old inhalater. It does not seem to me like the button issue is as big of a deal as I thought it was, because the button did seem to require a very deliberate click.
Flavor was good, but I think that the stainless steel bullet has an affect on it more than the polymide capsules i am used to for this kind of vapor. I was kind of surprised by how small the clouds of vapor I was getting out of it were in proportion to the sheer amount of heat that was coming out of the mouthpiece.
It seems to me like this unit could be a much better performer if there was a lot more turbulence introduced into the air-stream to increase the heat penetration. Right now it seems like the laminar flow of air that it is producing is mostly being wasted as it takes the path of least resistance through the load and most of the hot air escapes out of the mouthpiece (which I imagine lead to the melting mouthpiece issue).
I imagine for some though, especially for low tolerances and people who like medicating gradually and easily, this could be the ideal vape. I'm really interested to give the pinnacle pro a try when it comes out to see if there are any improvements made to the design to make it a better vape for myself.
The bullets, and vape itself were much smaller than the sense I got from looking at the pictures. I only used the mouthpiece and thought that the vapor was very reminiscent of my old inhalater. It does not seem to me like the button issue is as big of a deal as I thought it was, because the button did seem to require a very deliberate click.
Flavor was good, but I think that the stainless steel bullet has an affect on it more than the polymide capsules i am used to for this kind of vapor. I was kind of surprised by how small the clouds of vapor I was getting out of it were in proportion to the sheer amount of heat that was coming out of the mouthpiece.
It seems to me like this unit could be a much better performer if there was a lot more turbulence introduced into the air-stream to increase the heat penetration. Right now it seems like the laminar flow of air that it is producing is mostly being wasted as it takes the path of least resistance through the load and most of the hot air escapes out of the mouthpiece (which I imagine lead to the melting mouthpiece issue).
I imagine for some though, especially for low tolerances and people who like medicating gradually and easily, this could be the ideal vape. I'm really interested to give the pinnacle pro a try when it comes out to see if there are any improvements made to the design to make it a better vape for myself.
toros23
Well-Known Member
TRVB - Can we get a response here??? Several of us have PonG's with issues.
Yes, we will be replacing old Pong and MP for new ones, I am waiting on an update from engineering on when they expect all new parts to be in.
lookhigh
FC member
medium seems to work best but no matter what grind you'll always get full extraction. the bullet does not effect the MP. some have tried without the bullet and had good success.
Dreamerr
Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
Thanks TRVB that is great. Just let us know what to do when the time comes.
I am still concerned that this type of plastic is not great for this application. Making it thicker just prolongs the end result but it will still happen. Moving forward maybe other materials should be looked into?
I am still concerned that this type of plastic is not great for this application. Making it thicker just prolongs the end result but it will still happen. Moving forward maybe other materials should be looked into?
Shmoo
Well-Known Member
For best results, your herb should be a bit dry to begin with. If it is not, your first couple hits won't be clouds, but after that it performs the same way. I use my extra-small 4-piece grinder upside-down to get a fine grind, then turn it back right-side up and finish grinding so that it sits in the chamber for easy access. I find this is the easiest way to pack a bullet: I use the bullet to scoop up ground herb from inside of my grinder, and then gently push the herb down with a standard bic pen. You don't want to squish the herb, you just want it compact. So push down until you feel a bit of resistance. I repeat the scoop and tamping 3-4 times, until the herb is right below the lip of the bullet. Then, just load up the bullet and fire away! I recommend having your first few hits on low, especially if the herb isn't too dry. When you start to see clouds, it's your choice whether or not you want to stay on low or not. For the best efficiency, stay on low until the clouds decrease, then bump it up to high. If you want the best clouds for quicker medication or to impress your friends or something, go straight to high after the initial hits. Or just start with high, it should work just as well, but the taste won't be ideal. Hope that answered all your questions and then some.
Awwwwwwwwwwwww yis. TRVB comes through!
For best results, your herb should be a bit dry to begin with. If it is not, your first couple hits won't be clouds, but after that it performs the same way. I use my extra-small 4-piece grinder upside-down to get a fine grind, then turn it back right-side up and finish grinding so that it sits in the chamber for easy access. I find this is the easiest way to pack a bullet: I use the bullet to scoop up ground herb from inside of my grinder, and then gently push the herb down with a standard bic pen. You don't want to squish the herb, you just want it compact. So push down until you feel a bit of resistance. I repeat the scoop and tamping 3-4 times, until the herb is right below the lip of the bullet. Then, just load up the bullet and fire away! I recommend having your first few hits on low, especially if the herb isn't too dry. When you start to see clouds, it's your choice whether or not you want to stay on low or not. For the best efficiency, stay on low until the clouds decrease, then bump it up to high. If you want the best clouds for quicker medication or to impress your friends or something, go straight to high after the initial hits. Or just start with high, it should work just as well, but the taste won't be ideal. Hope that answered all your questions and then some.
The taste is bad on high??
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
For me the PN just flat out works better this way. Vapor production is better and some, not all, of that low temp problem I was having has been alleviated, meaning the medication level is more satisfying. I am amazed at how clean its staying just by using the included brush while its hot . . .
Do you put a screen in the chamber? Would you mind taking i pic?For me the PN just flat out works better this way. Vapor production is better and some, not all, of that low temp problem I was having has been alleviated, meaning the medication level is more satisfying. I am amazed at how clean its staying just by using the included brush while its hot . . .
Screen, no don't use one, and sorry no pic, I have doctor appts today . . .
Its ok so do i hahaha... If you dont use a screen wouldnt everything fall to the bottom of the heating element?
So why would you want your herbs on the bottom?
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
So they dont fall out of the device
I didn't want to screw with a screen so I just don't bother. Something fundamental changed in my mind the other day that kinda facilitated this whole transition in usage. I was pondering the cleaning/materials/maintenance issue and something "clicked" in my mind and I now consider the PN to be disposable. Once I crossed that mental barrier, I am MUCH happier and I am just going to use it without worry and see what happens. If it dies, it dies . . .Edit: Here is a pic of the inside of my PN with about a half dozen full loads through it with no bullet or screen, and just a brush out while hot to clean.
So they dont fall out of the device. I didn't want to screw with a screen so I just don't bother. Something fundamental changed in my mind the other day that kinda facilitated this whole transition in usage. I was pondering the cleaning/materials/maintenance issue and something "clicked" in my mind and I now consider the PN to be disposable. Once I crossed that mental barrier, I am MUCH happier and I am just going to use it without worry and see what happens. If it dies, it dies . . .
Edit: Here is a pic of the inside of my PN with about a half dozen full loads through it with no bullet or screen, and just a brush out while hot to clean.
Engineering's opinion is that is will eventually die with out using the bullet, but who knows how long that will be. One way of looking at life is that everything dies at some point!
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Absolutely! I am not criticizing here AT all. I am trying to tone down my grasping reflex so I can align with the device more harmoniously. I guess you can use my data as a "test" of some sort
toros23
Well-Known Member
I tried a few loads without the bullet and my results weren't as stellar. My ABV came out much more evenly cooked using the bullet. May give it another try again but I don't require the high heat like some others. Like Dreamer, I like the fast changing of the bullets on the go.
Han Solo
Guess which vape I got just before joining
I'm gonna guess that the answer is no, but can the Pinnacle charge from a 5 volt 0.7 amp charger? I assume it requires precisely 3 amps, or at least closer than 0.7, but I figured I couldn't hurt to ask.
I don't personally own the pinnacle, but I've used my friend's a fair amount. It'll only taste bad if the bud you put in tastes bad. From the start of a load to the end of it, the Pinnacle tends to taste pretty good.
I don't personally own the pinnacle, but I've used my friend's a fair amount. It'll only taste bad if the bud you put in tastes bad. From the start of a load to the end of it, the Pinnacle tends to taste pretty good.