You may waste some, but very little IMO. I leave my shit loaded and on ready to rock for hours at a time and I feel that any actives I may have lost were a small price to pay to have a hit when it tickled my fancy. Elbow packs are even less of an issue IME.
very well said! vaping through my stereo matrix is my favourite way to blaze. That being said, any vapor through water is kickass!Takes some practice to get better with the Q, too. MFLB and it have been my primary 2 vapes for a few years. If you're feeling higher for longer with LB, you still probably have a good bit of room to grow with the Q. Know it is a bitch to dig through, but there are many great tips in here. Might be easier to search and pluck than read the whole thread.
A few quick tips that should also be good searches (highlights=links search). Hopefully others will add a few more.
- Get some silicone hose. No taste, no smell, probably healthier, more flexible. Much better experience IMO - I think. Never used the stock tubing on mine.
- Get your material very dry and grind. Not quite as fine as is optimal for MFLB, but you want to get that extra surface area. Top of cable box or other warm electronics on a piece of paper dries pretty quick & nicely.
- Elbow pack - not as hard as it may seem. I grind into small dish and suck it up into the elbow using the hose. Lightly pack and take a few nice hits. Stir & repeat.
- Don't forego the bags just to be cool. They're great for figuring out your Q and fun at parties. Also nice for movies, gaming, whenever you don't feel like messing with the unit. A pencil eraser, the glass stirrer, a balled up rubber band and lots of other things can work as a stopper - or water in a bubbler will keep it all in the bag. Not too hard after first good hit takes down the air pressure.
- Play with and adjust your temperature. This may be biggest reason why MFLB seems better. Plenty of opinions on this, but I start at 185C, take a few hits, stir, go to 195C and sometimes stir again and go to 205C. Depending on how the stash is, I might just go at 185 till flat and reload. Save your ABV for edibles (or whatever you like) and you can't lose. Lower temps leaves more actives for later.
- I like using mine through water. Plenty of glass suggestions in thread and more all over FC. Some don't like it much, but IMO nothing like kicking back and having the Q on and attached to a bubbler. Get a good buzz on, then just lean over and take a big hit whenever you feel like it. Just as nice (and kind of portable) if you're using a bag, but best to finish in 20 minutes or so.
- Play with it! This is still one of the most versatile vapes out there and experimenting and tweaking techniques is fun and rewarding! Sounds like you're on the right track there, but definitely don't get discouraged.
Thanks a lot man! Im gunning to snipe a peyote pillar next off alt! Wish me luck! I've cleaned my whip many times, it just gets all oiled up again so fast ahaha. Especially with bomb bud. I also clean my bong daily, I just was too lazy to clean it before taking a picture when I don't consider vape resin dirty really, makes my bong smell quite nice actually if its a fruity, kushy strain like bubba. I don't bother scraping my bong for reclaim, the elbow hash n whip oil is pretty abundant, and its much easier to reclaim. I don't like to use iso extraction methods by the way or other chemicals like butane. Im going to replace my stock EQ whip, I've just been loafting and after three years its shitty smell has vanished and I can taste different strains quite well, especially with a clean screen and bong. I want to get one of the medical silicon high temp whips, just not sure where I can get them around my area. I've heard home depot carries them, but have yet to check. Anyways, thanks for the comment man! Hope your night is going well
Ooooo ok makes more sense aha I was thinking to myself, damn, my bongs not really dirty at all ahah. But yee there is a bunch of elbow hash building up and my psyclone bowl has been slowly caking up over the years ahaha.I don't smoke anymore beside a random joint here and there, so my reclaim is saved and has been collecting. I only use it in joints really, used to smoke bowls of it but after so long of soley vaping, one really starts to become unaccustomed to the smoke taste. I can truly say, 'Fuck Combustion!" And mean it
I will be cleaning elbow soon, when the airflow starts becoming restricted from the hash. Cheers man!
Ooooo ok makes more sense aha I was thinking to myself, damn, my bongs not really dirty at all ahah. But yee there is a bunch of elbow hash building up and my psyclone bowl has been slowly caking up over the years ahaha.I don't smoke anymore beside a random joint here and there, so my reclaim is saved and has been collecting. I only use it in joints really, used to smoke bowls of it but after so long of soley vaping, one really starts to become unaccustomed to the smoke taste. I can truly say, 'Fuck Combustion!" And mean it
Care to elaborate? Id like to make a nice medible hot chocolate
Fuck ya man! Thats sounds great. I want to make one now but I've got some shit to do so I think Ill have to make one tonight! Will the elbow give me a good enough kick alone? I was thinking of adding in some more whip hash i have saved up to increase the potency. Also, around how long would you suggest leaving it in the milk for, and if you know of any good alternatives to the milk as Im lactose intolerant
Thanks for all the info man!i was actually talking about some elbow hash that i have saved up... Don't know why I called it whip hash lol. But ya i wouldnt dream of throwing the tube in hot milk lol. Ill just buy myself some lactose free organic milk and it should ease my pain ahhaa. Almond milk wouldnt work as well I don't think because I don't think there would b much fat content in it, if any. However, as typing this I thought of maybe adding a bit of coconut oil to the almond milk, then mixing that and that would probably help the thc absorption. Im going to try it soon! Ill let you know how it goes!
Is that an EQ elbow connected to the bowl of the bong? Do you use an adaptor, if so, what size?Glad to hear man! Vape bonging is a true pleasure. Here's my setup, with some added vapor in the bong for viewing pleasure
However, as typing this I thought of maybe adding a bit of coconut oil to the almond milk, then mixing that and that would probably help the thc absorption. Im going to try it soon! Ill let you know how it goes!
