Silver Surfer Vaporizer

ive done everything ive drawed just from the wand to see if it was my hose now im testing it with avb that wont even vape its acting like theirs nothing left in the bowl when i can visually see green. im using just the wand/hose im not using a bong or anything, its getting really confusing it wont even draw anymore and my material keeps spiraling even worse. even when sucked by the hose it doesnt stay in place it frantically spirals everywhere burning it because it makes contact with the heating element and then leaving the rest of my material green. i fear the good reviews on the SSV are from a combustion/thick "vapor" standpoint, mine produces smoke/vapor at practically the same temp.

i hope im totally wrong because i dont think i can return it (i want too) and as it stands i really dont like this unit, my avb is very lame and inconsistentnly green/black/yellow and that is just disgusting. to spend this much on a unit that cant evenly spread the surface area, my unit is not spreading amongst the material thats the problem im having its heating parts of the bowl and leaving some totaly unaffected, please any tips ive tried everything cleaning the screen, rotating the wand, making sure the hose is airtight, slow draws medium draws fast draws, different temps, stirring the material, i give up lol. unless i can think of something within 1 more session i give up because my first session today and its just heating in one spot in the middle, they should have made screen smaller because if you look down the wand its only heating one part of the material and thats were the pathway is ive noticed this and i dont get it why isnt it heating it all up evenly? its multicolored AVB lol

laugingsodreamy12 said:

ive done everything ive drawed just from the wand to see if it was my hose now im testing it with avb that wont even vape its acting like theirs nothing left in the bowl when i can visually see green. im using just the wand/hose im not using a bong or anything, its getting really confusing it wont even draw anymore and my material keeps spiraling even worse. even when sucked by the hose it doesnt stay in place it frantically spirals everywhere burning it because it makes contact with the heating element and then leaving the rest of my material green. i fear the good reviews on the SSV are from a combustion/thick "vapor" standpoint, mine produces smoke/vapor at practically the same temp.

i hope im totally wrong because i dont think i can return it (i want too)

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No offense but I think you are.. Any harshness you feel could be from the vapor being too warm to be comfortable. If you use the whip for a few weeks that will stop happening, or if you use a water pipe it will cool it sufficiently. You admit to seeing green left and no longer getting vapor? How is combustion even coming into your mind?

Ill post a video of how I use the whip if you want to see if my unit performs differently

just with all my other vapes it can get my AVB all dark brown, thats what im looking for, it seems like i could throw this SSV AVB in my dv and get far more drags from it (cant though cause usps broke my replacement grr). even with stirring its leaving some of the material not vaped thats the issue im facing in this unit, and as soon as i keep stirring and going to try and draw it focuses more so on one area which leaves me to conclude that its not evenly vaporizing/heating all my material. and the spiraling material in the wand everytime i draw it spirals everywere ive sucked down the material into the screen via the wand im just confused, the SSV is making me feel pretty confused im trying to get around this curve but its not even performing anymore really.

all my other vapes turn my material evenly dark brown without any black not the SSV, all my other vapes dont combust not the SSV, all my other avb dont having gleaming greens/yellow/visible trichomes like the SSV avb does which to me i see a waste.

Here is my AVB. IMO that's pretty evenly vaped, I could make it darker if I heated further but this is the level of vaping I prefer.

Hey yesterday I had my ssv on in my hand it was warmed up with mherb in the chamber and I got startled, and it tipped it and the herb went inside the stem around the element.
Ques what happened? It combusted a big puff of smoke and and a fire scared the shit out of me.
After this I cleaned it and loaded it up again, this this can rip!
I love it.
Clouds are big and tasty and smooth I wish I would of baught one a long time ago.
So now I have my cloud and ssv for desk top vapes no regrets and I like the glass on glass , oil pot works great.
Cheers medical mark

Medical Mark said:

Hey yesterday I had my ssv on in my hand it was warmed up with mherb in the chamber and I got startled, and it tipped it and the herb went inside the stem around the element.
Ques what happened? It combusted a big puff of smoke and and a fire scared the shit out of me.
After this I cleaned it and loaded it up again, this this can rip!
I love it.
Clouds are big and tasty and smooth I wish I would of baught one a long time ago.
So now I have my cloud and ssv for desk top vapes no regrets and I like the glass on glass , oil pot works great.
Cheers medical mark

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Nice! and Yeah it sucks when herb falls on the heater haha, expect that to happen at least one more time from someone accidentally blowing into the mouthpiece while holding the wand to the heater cover.

looks better than my AVB this unit is totally wasting my weed lol but even in your avb i can se the trichomes its not as dark as my DV. it always combusts even at low temps for me i give ups on it im trying to return it. i just want something more accurate, how dirty this thing gets is lame too. ive tried everything i dont get what im doing thats stopping me from seeing how "good" this unit is, im not digging it and ive done just about anything you could imagine.

slow hits, fast hits, medium hits, fine grinded material, medium grinded material, different materials, slowly rotating wand while drawing, aiming the wand differently, different temperatures, cleaning the wand/screen/hose (with ISO+hot water), making sure the hose is airtight, stirring the material, i just dont get what i "could" be doing to not be getting optimal performance in this unit and at this point i could care less its just hurting my head. the SSV is just making me miss my DV even more haha.

Too bad you are giving up so easy. It's a truly awesome device

Firstly you just got it so what is there to clean. Instead of spending time writing endless posts that we can't help you with take a video so we can help you. You had the same complaints with the DV. You are doing something wrong and we can't understand what it is till you show us.

As an example someone complained to no end about there solo like you did about your DV and now the SSV. Once they showed us a pic the stem wasn't all the way in, problem solved after days of complaining.

Also why you going through so much weed if it doesn't work. I also told your abv isn't going to be black and color makes no difference if you are getting the feeling you want. If all vapes suck then maybe vaping isn't for you You will not hear a bad thing about the ssv even from people who sold it.

it worked for like 2 sessions, i dont know what it is the thing is worse material is spiraling backward into the heating element i try to get high on this thing and its producing very shitty vapor. the more material i put in their the more burnt/yellow/green avb i have. im thinking its the hose? i cant post a video ive been working hella, but i will when i can I've tried the ssv different occasions at my buddys place but ive been working so much its kinda a "lunch break" go to right now cause ive been so busy later tonight ill test it more when i take it home but all these 3 times i tried using it today it made me feel like a idiot, its not producing shit. its burning too and the materia tastes like asshole. its hard for me to be like yeah the SSV! ive never had this much problem with the DV or the MFLB or even a VG. ridiculous i just wanna vape dam lol. it shouldnt hard to vape=stupid.

the only problem ive had with the davinci was i just needed to clean the screen. i dont understand what this ssvs problem is lol ive changed so much variable factors its like dam im feeling stupid to even give it a shot, its not producing= why keep trying?

this thing was producing vapor out the box after 2 sessions it has gone practically non existant and im doing nothing different. so whats this learning curve? i cant learn from it if i dont even know what it is, and the instructions to this thing is a joke it says nothing about any of the problems ive been experiencing with this product, its their job to inform us not you guys. Thats why im frustrated, i know this thing performs if used correctly and obviously something is missing/not happening for it to be doing these things, when i draw on the unit the material spirals inside the wand frantically, and form the videos ive watched thats not happening on other peoples SSV but alot of other peoples vids they do have the temp cranked up, i aint trying to smoke.

Weird. Definitely sounds like user error.
Mine worked flawlessly from the get go.
Such a simple device to grow to love.

I use it near max temp.
No combustion with a steady draw.
It never combusts or smokes, just pure thick vapors

laugingsodreamy12 said:

it worked for like 2 sessions, i dont know what it is the thing is worse material is spiraling backward into the heating element .....

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The spiraling back toward the element has me baffled, since air only moves in one direction.. unless there was a HUGE visible rip in the hose.
Do you want to use your SSV on Skype in front of an SSV enthusiast? (me)
PM me.

You know, when I got my SSV for the first time, I wasn't really that happy with it; mostly because the wand broken and I was pissed off; so when I got the replacement I was kind of anxious and pissed 'cause of waiting, and thought that my SSV was under performing: Couldn't get any bigger clouds, sometimes I will burn the stuff without reason, sometimes I thought it was not heating properly, etc, etc.

The thing is, it was kind of just me being doubtful after a $200+ purchase. After a week or so I simply learnt to "stop caring" and started just enjoying the SSV without paying to much attention to the heat level, vapor thickness or so. My advise is that, just start with a really low temp and me patient. Start vaping at a point were the heating element just seems faintly orange (or a bit before that), and draw at a set pace (be it slow, or fast; up to you); keep turning the knob really slowly drawing at the same pace; and focus not on the vapor or flavor; but on how high you are. At some point, it will just feel natural and hopefully you will be loving you SSV.

Just a heads up if anyone needs screens. I just ordered from a guy selling them on ebay 25x screens for $ 7.95 free shipping User name "ioucoins". It is stated in add that their may be a bit more than 25 in package. Well i got them in in 2 days no joke.The package says pipescreenZ.com and they look like the exact same ones i have been using. Anyway when i counted them there were 78! Yeh just a few over now i'm set for life

NeeChee said:

Just a heads up if anyone needs screens. I just ordered from a guy selling them on ebay 25x screens for $ 7.95 free shipping User name "ioucoins". It is stated in add that their may be a bit more than 25 in package. Well i got them in in 2 days no joke.The package says pipescreenZ.com and they look like the exact same ones i have been using. Anyway when i counted them there were 78! Yeh just a few over now i'm set for life

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I use them too, and agree with what you say, however the 7th floor packs that I have received have been sturdier but when you have that many you can replace them a lot sooner but save em up for reclaim...

oneiros. said:

You know, when I got my SSV for the first time, I wasn't really that happy with it; mostly because the wand broken and I was pissed off; so when I got the replacement I was kind of anxious and pissed 'cause of waiting, and thought that my SSV was under performing: Couldn't get any bigger clouds, sometimes I will burn the stuff without reason, sometimes I thought it was not heating properly, etc, etc.

The thing is, it was kind of just me being doubtful after a $200+ purchase. After a week or so I simply learnt to "stop caring" and started just enjoying the SSV without paying to much attention to the heat level, vapor thickness or so. My advise is that, just start with a really low temp and me patient. Start vaping at a point were the heating element just seems faintly orange (or a bit before that), and draw at a set pace (be it slow, or fast; up to you); keep turning the knob really slowly drawing at the same pace; and focus not on the vapor or flavor; but on how high you are. At some point, it will just feel natural and hopefully you will be loving you SSV.

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thats the thing i was getitng huge vape clouds with the ssv at first my DV is far outperforming this unit (huge vape clouds nice evenly browned avb) thats why it makes no sense the DV is a portable, i dont really get that high at all it doesnt even feel like im vaping. its so much work just to get a semi decent draw when i first used it it was so easy to pull draws now its not even happening really. im trying to be positive and im experiencing alot of the issues you were having, and the material just keeps spiraling its crazy it never stays in place in the wand.

You really need to make a video or skype with someone.
You've stated your problem over and over, which we can read in many of your posts.
If you want help, help us help you.

laugingsodreamy12 said:

thats the thing i was getitng huge vape clouds with the ssv at first my DV is far outperforming this unit (huge vape clouds nice evenly browned avb) thats why it makes no sense the DV is a portable, i dont really get that high at all it doesnt even feel like im vaping. its so much work just to get a semi decent draw when i first used it it was so easy to pull draws now its not even happening really. im trying to be positive and im experiencing alot of the issues you were having, and the material just keeps spiraling its crazy it never stays in place in the wand.

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i just bought a silver SSV for a buddy.I have a black one and i use the Aroma top. When i tried his unit to make sure it works i noticed a few bits flying around.I use very little about 1/8 full.I have never noticed before but when i took my aroma top off mine i noticed the same result just a lil spiraling.But it still works normal for me. I have noticed that switching strains the same temp, draw speed and even wand size and how clean my screen may have to be changed for a good result.It can night and day sometimes but eventually i will find that sweet spot again. Sound like you just need more time to dial in what works for you.

yea definetly have to keep messing with it im sure its something im doing/not doing that wouldnt suprise me, i kept thinking hmm maybe higher temp but it would just burn my material, i really hate combustion and if i woulda known this unit got to 900f i wouldnt have got it. theirs too much guessing for me, im getting high and i gotta guess guess guess, guess the temp guess the draw speed, guess when the bowls done, i really dont like vapes with learning curves lol every vape should be super easy to use and have accurate temp dial ins.

but ill figure it out thanks for all your guys help and not trying to bash on the SSV or anything i just dont think its right for me, even if i do get it working. even when it was working it was still more combusting parts of my material and to me thats just a no no. oh and dude my material spirals like a mad man sometimes it even flies into the ceramic heating element and im not blowing in this is all while taking draws of all different speeds. i cant get my material to not have green in it LOL its literally green/yellow/black it sure is an enigma to me.

I am a very happy camper ........

PhillyFanatic said:

I am a very happy camper ........

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dam thats so savage! i was watching some videos and literally my wand doesnt go as close to the HC could that be a problem? my wand when i put it up to my HC the heating thing prob goes like a centimeter in all the vids i see of people using the SSV its different the heating element goes like a inch into the wand?

As far as cleaning goes, I leave my screens in and do an iso wash in the wand. They clean up perfectly and you don't have change the screen as often. Vito had posted this somewhere, and i continue to thank him and everyone else for teaching me so much on this forum. If I could just try a dab. I was wondering if I could use reclaim for dabbing or is it not even close to the same. I live in a draconian state and we don't have the access.

Hey hows it going!

Longtime SSV user chiming in, posting because I can't find this "Vito's reclaim technique" upon searching for it, is there any way I could get a link or a post #?

Thanks so much

I LOVE IT. So easy to learn to use, and so much smoother than the vapor/smoke that the Atmos produced.

Can anyone recommend a place to get some good quality color and/or custom glass wands and mouthpieces? Thx!

Shiva said:

Can anyone recommend a place to get some good quality color and/or custom glass wands and mouthpieces? Thx!

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Only place I know is 7th floor's own website. Wands and Mouthpieces.

They also have whole Custom Glass Kits. I would love to have a kit but can't afford it now.