Cannabis doesn't feel the same anymore..

Firstly props to the op and others who brought this to the light. Too many weed users want to get defensive when something like this comes up as if it is going to diminish their precious weed or something. There are issues with using weed just like any other product from Jack Daniels to potato chips and to not be aware of them or dismiss them is silly.

I just recently had this happen to me after 3-4 days straight puffing and drinking. I was depressed/hungover for 2 days and didn't feel "right" for a few days after that. What I did to ease thru it was backoff over 50% of my vaping and after the first day abstained from alcohol. Getting back into a regular rhythm helps too as someone said here, know what you are going to do before you get high. Then you won't just sit around like a zombie.

Even if it is watch TV, I will say to myself "I'm gonna get a buzz on and watch Inspector Lewis" and that's what I will do instead of sitting there with the clicker for an hour too stoned to decide what to watch.

I too blame it in the high THC vs CBD ratio of some of the Sativas we can get now. Without the CBD you have nothing to counter the THC effects of anxiety/depression etc.

deadheadbill said:

Firstly props to the op and others who brought this to the light. Too many weed users want to get defensive when something like this comes up as if it is going to diminish their precious weed or something. There are issues with using weed just like any other product from Jack Daniels to potato chips and to not be aware of them or dismiss them is silly.

I just recently had this happen to me after 3-4 days straight puffing and drinking. I was depressed/hungover for 2 days and didn't feel "right" for a few days after that. What I did to ease thru it was backoff over 50% of my vaping and after the first day abstained from alcohol. Getting back into a regular rhythm helps too as someone said here, know what you are going to do before you get high. Then you won't just sit around like a zombie.

Even if it is watch TV, I will say to myself "I'm gonna get a buzz on and watch Inspector Lewis" and that's what I will do instead of sitting there with the clicker for an hour too stoned to decide what to watch.

I too blame it in the high THC vs CBD ratio of some of the Sativas we can get now. Without the CBD you have nothing to counter the THC effects of anxiety/depression etc.

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depending on how much you drink, i would more likely attribute your depression to alcohol. Alcohol is stimulant in low doses but depressant in higher doses.

vorrange said:

depending on how much you drink, i would more likely attribute your depression to alcohol. Alcohol is stimulant in low doses but depressant in higher doses.

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I know what you mean, but I don't drink all that much. I think it is just a combination because I have gotten that dis-associative depressed feeling after weed alone too.

deadheadbill said:

Firstly props to the op and others who brought this to the light. Too many weed users want to get defensive when something like this comes up as if it is going to diminish their precious weed or something. There are issues with using weed just like any other product from Jack Daniels to potato chips and to not be aware of them or dismiss them is silly.

I just recently had this happen to me after 3-4 days straight puffing and drinking. I was depressed/hungover for 2 days and didn't feel "right" for a few days after that. What I did to ease thru it was backoff over 50% of my vaping and after the first day abstained from alcohol. Getting back into a regular rhythm helps too as someone said here, know what you are going to do before you get high. Then you won't just sit around like a zombie.

Even if it is watch TV, I will say to myself "I'm gonna get a buzz on and watch Inspector Lewis" and that's what I will do instead of sitting there with the clicker for an hour too stoned to decide what to watch.

I too blame it in the high THC vs CBD ratio of some of the Sativas we can get now. Without the CBD you have nothing to counter the THC effects of anxiety/depression etc.

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Any cases of depression or other mood disorders in your family? If there are, you may want to keep an eye on things. As amazing as the herb can be, the wrong strains can trigger negative side effects in those sorts of cases, especially, as you mentioned, higher THC strains. I am constantly keeping an eye open for that perfectly balanced strain.

Booze is never good for depression. I used to be able to pound back my fair share, but no more. Even a light buzz can screw up my mood for a week or two.

I took a 9 month break last year.. it was surprisingly easy for me, I did start smoking cigs more, but ive since quit that too. But now I only vape at night before bed to relax and help me sleep. vaping in the day makes me feel all groggy.. its not my favorite feeling.

Tweek said:

Any cases of depression or other mood disorders in your family? If there are, you may want to keep an eye on things. As amazing as the herb can be, the wrong strains can trigger negative side effects in those sorts of cases, especially, as you mentioned, higher THC strains. I am constantly keeping an eye open for that perfectly balanced strain.

Booze is never good for depression. I used to be able to pound back my fair share, but no more. Even a light buzz can screw up my mood for a week or two.

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Honestly used to love to drink especially my fine scotch and whiskey collection.

Then I started vaping, haven't looked back. I find when friends call me to "get a drink" I would rather "start a session" and talk while vaping. Too bad most of my friends dont participate/know I use.

If you're not as easily entertained as you once were that's not necessarily a bad thing - could be a sign of spiritual growth. I remember when all it took was a black light and Blue Oyster Cult to feel like warrior-man on the front lines of eternity ... ahhh to be a teenager again (nah that's alright).

Edit: maybe more cowbell would help

Always need more cowbell.

When I start to feel like it's no fun anymore I quit for a few days. A couple sober days later and I'm SOO ready for my beloved THC cocoon.

ShipDit said:

When I start to feel like it's no fun anymore I quit for a few days. A couple sober days later and I'm SOO ready for my beloved THC cocoon.

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This is also working well for me and my dementia. After I quit for a day or two, I almost forget to start vaping again.

TriiKLe said:

Cannabis like all drugs do NOT make bad things good.
Cannabis does make good things great. You got to be fit and happy with out it .

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Agreed, you need to be happy, healthy, and balanced, but I do believe cannabis(by itself, no pills, hard drugs, or booze) can provide balance and happiness to people with what I've coined, "THC Deficiency". I believe it is an unfortunate minority of people who do not benefit from cannabis, being our brains have cannabinoid receptors designed into them. I sympathize with anyone who doesn't benefit from this miracle plant, this is a minority that shouldn't be ignored.
One day when we are not governed by the same old, ignorant white men who value the dollar over the people, the science will be opened to provide the answers for those not able to benefit from it now.

vorrange said:

depending on how much you drink, i would more likely attribute your depression to alcohol. Alcohol is stimulant in low doses but depressant in higher doses.

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While it might feel stimulating or depressing depending on dosage, terms like "depressant" describe how alcohol affects the nervous system objectively, as opposed to describing the subjective experience of the user. It "stimulates" you by depressing the function of the nervous system, so no matter what it feels like, it's a depressant.

For practical purposes, the specific terms probably don't matter much, but that stimulant/depressant thing is a common myth.

Hey everyone!

Just wanted to check back in. I realized that I have been gone for a few months and finally had the chance to live more sober without cannabis and wanted to post about how I am feeling now and how things are going. It basically took selling all of my supplies and vapes in order to not think about using cannabis or vaporizing. This also included not going on FC anymore unfortunately... until now!

Being sober for a few months has been,,, well.... NORMAL! Nothing crazy and It has been a very nice break overall. I started up a new hobby (yo-yo's!) haha, and that really helped pull me out of my funk. I think that I was so focused on cannabis all the time that I forgot to enjoy myself and do things that I love to do.

ALSO, I realized a huge root cause of much of my depression while using cannabis. I am addicted to sugar. I just didn't realize it because most of the times I was using cannabis as a way to justify my addiction and was completely blind to it until I sobered up. Many times I would go out while very high and buy all sorts of sugary junk, and no wonder I felt like shit the next day and had huge sugar crashes all the time. When you have sugar you receive huge rushes of serotonin but then once it goes away you nee more to maintain that level. Looking back, this has been an issue I have had for many years, but it took taking a step back to realize what was going on. This could have even possibly stemed from childhood or been from some emotional issue I have had in the past, who knows! But atleast I have found the issue that was bringing me distress. I think that the greens definitely exasperate any problem that anyone may have in their mental/emotional bodies. This is exactly what I feel was happening with me. Cannabis was drawing out my current issue of addication and amplifying it full force!!

Anyways, after my realization, I have decided to start back up vaping, going slow, and see how it goes. I don't want it to be a daily habit, or during the day thing, but just once in a while or out on a hiking adventure, etc.

Currently I am trying to eat a 100% raw foods plant based diet to clear toxins and rid myself of the sugar/yeast addiction that I have had for so long. I know it won't be easy but it will be worth it, and it is a lifestyle that I have been trying to implement for a while now. I am also going to be doing a 7 day juice cleanse soon. I am allowing the use of raw sweetners still such as agave, stevia, and honey, but nothing processed. Processed white sugar is pure poison to the body and is very harmful, if you don't believe me research it yourself.

I am glad to be back and thought i'd celebrate with a new vape and manufacturer, the firewood! . The hardest part now will be convincing my girlfriend that I want to vape again when I told her that I basically quit for good. Oh joy...

Thanks for reading dear ones!
Till next time my wonderful FC family! <3

RE: Raw Agave. Ain't no such animal... it is an extremely high fructose sweetner, which affects the body the same way HFCS does.

Stick to honey. Rapidura is another more natural sweetener (basically dried cane juice). Just learn to use less. Avoid the Agave.

Thanks for updating us on your progress! It sounds like this has all been fantastically positive for you; congratulations! Your mention of yo-yos instantly brought this to mind; maybe it will provide some inspiration:

Enchantre said:

RE: Raw Agave. Ain't no such animal... it is an extremely high fructose sweetner, which affects the body the same way HFCS does.

Stick to honey. Rapidura is another more natural sweetener (basically dried cane juice). Just learn to use less. Avoid the Agave.

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Yeah honey is my go to, but I am realizing that I don't necessarily need these sweeteners, it is more of a if I want to make a raw dessert I will use them. Sparingly of course!

I appreciate your concern!

& nkotb! Haha thank you for the inspiration that is quite amazing

this is more of the style that I am learning at the moment:


pretty cool stuff!!

Way to go Elluzion!
Bananas, watermelon, pistachios, asian pears, are some of the fruits and nuts that helped me get my sugars in order and lose a chunk of weight. Those foods are rich, sweet and can easily take the place of sweets and that's from a black belt in dessert consumption!
Bananas were key, they fill you, satisfy a sugar need, are easy to eat on the go, and particularly satisfied the late night hunger.

On top of the poisonous aspects, I've read that sugar is like broken glass in our blood stream, tearing the inner walls of our veins and scarring the tissue.
That visualization helped me to avoid sugar a little easier!

Adobewan said:

Way to go Elluzion!
Bananas, watermelon, pistachios, asian pears, are some of the fruits and nuts that helped me get my sugars in order and lose a chunk of weight. Those foods are rich, sweet and can easily take the place of sweets and that's from a black belt in dessert consumption!
Bananas were key, they fill you, satisfy a sugar need, are easy to eat on the go, and particularly satisfied the late night hunger.

On top of the poisonous aspects, I've read that sugar is like broken glass in our blood stream, tearing the inner walls of our veins and scarring the tissue.
That visualization helped me to avoid sugar a little easier!

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I appreciate your support Adobewan! It isn't easy to admit having an addiction that I have supressed for so long,but it feels nice to put it out into the open and share it with my FC family.

Yeah bananas are great and have that awesome meaty texture to them to truly allow fullness while still having a sweet taste. Only thing I don't like about them is most are grown in mexico and gas ripened on the way to the states. But they sure are delicious!!

Yeah broken glass does not sound good at all! Thank you very much for that visualization. That will help me a lot

Elluzion said:

Cannabis was drawing out my current issue of addication and amplifying it full force!!

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good that you noticed what was going on and more importantly took the difficult steps needed to address it.

check into xylitol, its a 5 carbon sugar alcohol and is metabolized by your body in a different way than regular sugars. it also does not cause cavities since the bacteria that cause them cannot use the non 6 carbon sugars.

Xylitol +1

I've always found yo-yoing to be very mesmerizing to say the least, I don't have the patience and concentration to do that myself

I have been on a T break for almost a month...I find it VERY difficult NOT to do it everyday. Its just I find I am a very intense kind of person I tend to do this with alot of things. Working out, working,shooting, reading etc anything im into...I get into it 100%...I personally love it, after all its just the nature of the beast.

Being sober has made me realize what my triggers are. Sex is one of them the other is being bored. Nothing is more entertaining that staring at the corner of a table for 4 hours

My cravings tend to fade after 3 weeks. After that I start to feel "normal".

I'm on a break too. And I need to remain sober the next few months so I can finish off my exams at university. Also for me it's a matter of weeks going from once a week use to everyday abuse.. I can't wait to get retired from work, not having anything to do, develop glaucoma as my father and both my grandparents (optional), and vape all day long.

One of the things that I consider abuse is that if I'm on a vaping day, I can't stop doing it until I go to bed.
So the day after I wake up quite foggy and when I'm sober again (after lunch) I start thinking of getting home and start vaping again. What a mess

One word: Moderation

Remember, Balance

Find activities to do when you're experiencing the herb. Exercise, dance, something... As apposed to solely laying back, thought that's definitely nice time to time

opposed* Lol

"though haha