Discontinued Thermovape Cera
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Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I feel you, man. Some mornings it's the torch and nail first because it's easier to operate. You know you can get an ego-c twist battery and it'll drive your LR stuff? I'm about 99% sure, anyways. OF mentioned it in another thread (I think the electronic cigarette vapes thread?), so maybe pushing a button down would be easier on you? I know that with the Cera you don't have to press the button ALL the way down, it engages before it stops moving.
Hope you feel better, my damn hip has been at it again today.
OF
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True rumor, I'm guilty.
With Ultra some guys have also put a dime or two under the battery tube (inside the outer tube) so that the unit makes contact when you screw it together. Just remember you need to unscrew it again to shut down, otherwise it's on and cooking until the battery goes flat.
OF
The Cera not having the sliding pin switch, and the always-on push button, was a real blow to my motivation in getting one. I've got nothing wrong with my fingers, but I'm still not happy with how the Ultra and UltraLite turn on, and sometimes it's damn hard like if your fingers are cold or wet.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
OF
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No, I don't think so. I too enjoy the very thing. Not to slam them in but feel them slide down and land.
Have you ever tried it while blocking the two big holes with thumb and finger? No? Just how strange are you, really?
OF
Sorry you're missing the fun.
IMO it's not a big deal, really. I have the only sliding switch remaining I'm told, and it's not installed. Honestly, I haven't had it in in several months, I only put it in from time to time to use it to make voltage readings at the top of the battery (the center connection on the cart) so I know the exact voltage on the core. Otherwise it's too fiddly WRT battery length and 'rough' in action (it has to force it's way in with the insulating part). Not a good idea as revealed in Beta Testing......which is exactly why you Beta Test.....and IMO why it was a mistake to 'leak' the details of that testing. It's tainted folks' judgement IMO.
Likewise, I have one of the few original latching switches (the ones that can't be delivered?), which also basically doesn't get used either. When I'm in the mood for it I use my ugly kluge latching switch, which is quite solid having been selected for ratings not mechanical package. However I almost always use the stock, flat, momentary switch. It's easy enough to work IMO and for EO use (what I've been doing with Cera mostly lately) it's the best idea IMO. For LL use (or when I'm in the mood for playing with it) I usually use my version of NoName's excellent work around:
On the left is the cut down 1 inch cap from the right which holds in the brass washer between them with the top of a smaller cap hot melt glued into to the hole in the washer from the back. Of the half dozen or so gadgets I've messed with (and posted in this thread for the most part) I like this the best in the end. Simple, easy, effective and solid.
You're call, but IMO you're missing out. Honest, the grapes really aren't all that sour?
OF
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
OF
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Fun isn't it. As long as you don't try to turn it into a maracca (AKA Rumba shaker), which I can see happening......let's keep it our little secret?
You're right about the timbre, you could probably make some cool wind chimes out of the tubes.....expensive, but cool.
You know I had the feeling when I was typing out all that last night that would be the result.......
My advice is to not spend too much time watching your mailbox, I'm sure TV will never give permission to do more than loan Beta stuff out....as we agreed at the start.
Too bad my point was missed. But like I said, I expected as much.
It's still your call, I still think you're missing out.
OF
JoeKickass
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Believe me I know where you're coming from, sliding those old ones with your thumb was like a golden ticket to thumb-arthritis-land.
But pushing a button is a much improved experience, at the very worst the tip of your finger gets a bit sore, but then you can just switch fingers
Silver420Surfer
Downward spiral
If the Cera was the same size as the "old ones", I would whole heartedly agree with you. But the cera is too large for my hands(I don't think I have small hands, but def not large ones) and it is VERY awkward for me to hold and hit at the same time. Also gone is any "stealthiness" that i feel I get from my Ultra max w/ Dart. I am not worried about using my Dart in a non-medical state, but the Cera would draw to many "what is that?" questions, imo. As much as I LOVE my other TV equipment, thats unfortunately how much I don't like the Cera. I talked my buddy into ordering himself one, and defer to my Rev Dart when visiting with him. Can't please everybody, right. But the best thing is I am super happy with my other TV stuff and they will repair for cheap if something breaks. Will wait for mini-cera or just keep enjoying what I have.Believe me I know where you're coming from, sliding those old ones with your thumb was like a golden ticket to thumb-arthritis-land.
But pushing a button is a much improved experience, at the very worst the tip of your finger gets a bit sore, but then you can just switch fingers
OF
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I talked my buddy into ordering himself one, and defer to my Rev Dart when visiting with him. Can't please everybody, right. But the best thing is I am super happy with my other TV stuff and they will repair for cheap if something breaks. Will wait for mini-cera or just keep enjoying what I have.
Spot on! You sure can't please everyone. Or even the majority....sometimes pleasing a few in a victory.
By all means, stick with what pleases you.
I think here, more than most places in life, what's good is an individual thing. Very much subject to the current needs and wants? My 'best vape' has changed several times a year, well at least a few times, with those shifting values. Each guy should try them and decide. It's the try them part I'm big on, taking the other fellow's word for it is like buying glasses for a friend.
OF
Herbalist23
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Hey guys, seems there is light on the end of the tunnel
Zeki was telling me last friday that my Cera is finally there!(just to remind, it was send back by the german customs on may 8th and were in NY on may 12th!!!
Now I hope Zeki will do everything to get it to me without any trouble, fingers crossed!
I will keep you updated, and of course will do a review when I finally hold it in my hands.
Herbalist23
Zeki was telling me last friday that my Cera is finally there!(just to remind, it was send back by the german customs on may 8th and were in NY on may 12th!!!
Now I hope Zeki will do everything to get it to me without any trouble, fingers crossed!
I will keep you updated, and of course will do a review when I finally hold it in my hands.
Herbalist23
OF
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Even TV can't combat customs, but rest assured they'll turn it around quickly and do everything they can to expedite it's reunion with you and your stash. The various Governments and shippers are the ones conspiring to keep you apart don't you know? Unlike those guys, TV is on your side.
Good luck.
OF
Good luck.
OF
Hey jpdnkstr,
You should be fine. I've used the 18650s (the 2250mahs) as you have on a number of occasions with both my Dart and my HP EVO carts. As you've probably experienced, the 18650s heat the cores faster and last considerably longer than the 17670s (as good a batt as they are). I haven't used my EVO on it for a while but IIRC heat up time was only around 10 seconds to first draw - so I had vapor in less than 30 seconds from a cold start. Pretty powerful combo.
BTW - if you have an extra spring laying around, you can slide it between the negative end of the batt (pos end of batt faces the cart during installation) and the metal housing before screwing the adapter (either the black insulated or bare metal) onto the power supply. If you screw the adapter on JUST SHORT of all the way, you'll find that the circuit will be CLOSED (without having to press or hold anything) BUT you should now have enough 'play' (due to the second spring) to OPEN the circuit by 'pulling the thumbswitch AWAY (vs pushing) from the cart'. Now rather than needing two hands to unscrew the adapter to 'turn it off' - you can 'slide it to off' with one hand. Unfortunately, this may still pose a problem for those with dexterity issues.
Hope this helps,
NN
True.
Sure wish my mom could take a hit off the EO cart on the Cera, but at 82 and horrific arthritis it is just not going to happen. Even if she could hold the button long enough for the 15-30 sec warm up from cold on the EO cart to get the first hit she just can't draw hard enough to get it going. Sure she eats most of her food through a straw so has that sucking practice you need for Cera but she sure as hell can't suck a thick milkshake up a straw any more.
I respect your opinion OF and I respect the medical grade materials TeT has used, however it did does not fit the needs of many that can beniifit from its performance in weak states of illness or end of life issues.
Edit: quick explanation. My oils are high CBD oils and more and more I find people that get tremendous pain relief from a small hit or two from the Cera, the problem is I have to personally prime it, warm it, and make it super easy for them to get a small inhale. My mother has very bad COPD so lung power is not there for her, pain relief is all she is looking for and while ediables work she does not like the high. When I can be there a puff or two from the Cera does not make her feel high but she benefits from pain relief and becomes far more mobile. I can't be there three times a day.
Unfortunately i don't know what switch the Mini is going with, I haven't been in the shop the last few weeks to check up on the mini design. Last i saw it had both a bottom latching switch and a mechanical side button, which would make everyone very happy!
However, I can not say this is for sure, Im checking in this week so ill have something new for ya. Cheers,
Tim
OF
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Wanna bet?
That's half serious, pleasing all the people is not possible IMO, but I agree that would be a step in the right direction for many....maybe. And it's s good goal for sure.
Whatever it is, I expect it'll be first rate, well made and well thought out.
OF
druminfected
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just curious what CAN'T concentrates can't be put into the Cera EO. Looks like shatters are fine, but full melt?
Nope don't really have any issues. Get your hands on one sooner than later!
Nope don't really have any issues. Get your hands on one sooner than later!
OF
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I think I'd run FM in with the kief and bubble hash in the LL core (since there's a fair bit of residue). I'd probably start out with a layer of bud at the bottom until I learned if that was needed (it's not for bubble or kief).
Perhaps someone has some first hand experience? I tend to pass on FMs, sticking with bubble or going for the Super Melts (or 'better') for oil cart use.
OF
Despite OF's insistence that arthritis isn't an issue with the Cera, it can be. I'm by no means an old man and my arthritis isn't that bad, but it goes give me issues for sure. Every time I push the button it feels almost like there is a crick in the finger that is pushing the button (doesnt matter which finger i use or hand). Granted, it doesn't stop me from using it most of the time, and when it does I just go take a dab.
So yes, the worse your arthritis, the harder time you will have using this product. But as others have pointed out, there are work arounds for it. I know I've been meaning to get to the Depot to get the end caps to but an eraser or marble in to keep that button depressed for me.
Good luck to you with your decision. I know that I would recommend this to anyone who can keep that button pressed in (its not really that hard to push, it's mainly the orientation of your hand while holding and pushing the button with the same hand).
OF
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I beg your pardon, did I really say that? I surely never intended to say something like that, can you please point to it so I can correct it?
I take great effort to not say misleading stuff like that, it seems not enough care? Example please.
TIA
OF
druminfected
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what stopped me from getting a thermovape revolution was you had to slide that button upwards and it looks like that would be to much resistance for my hand strength, so I had to unfortunately play the waiting game until the cera came out, but as far as pushing the button, I'm not really struggling that much and don't have much muscle hand strength and also arthritis but still manage fine
Besides after you medicate; the arthritis fades away after the first draw
