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Got me an P3 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor, at my preferred heat setting my SSV is only eating up 18W. Less than an CFL.

@ .10 cents a KW, it would run me just $16 to leave the SSV on 24/7/365. And I've saved way more than that on lighters and butane alone, :).
 
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fiarrhea

Vapor Dog
whats your preferred heat setting?

what does the inner plate of the standard surfers look like? I ordered blemished one and got a gold housing with a red base and the inner plate (the base that the HC sits on) sort of looks like the silver veined housing from the ssv site. is this the normal inner plate or did I get something different? I love it, and kind of hope that its special.


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Breathemetal

Well-Known Member
I seem to be getting better results with my SSV the more i play with it, but I think im going to order the Standard HC and wand and set this Spherical GG aside for a while.

How are the fatty wands? Do they really provide thicker hits?
 
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fiarrhea

Vapor Dog
ill let you know when I get mine.

Also, ive used my ssv for only 2 full days. I used one wand the first day, and by the end of the day I was pulling milkier hits off of a wand with nothing in it. Then I hit my clean wand with nothing in it and got nothing. so the next day I used the fresh wand, and by the end of the day I was pulling milkier hits from the same wand empty. am i just vaping the reclaim, but It seems to never end, and its only been a day on each wand...
 
fiarrhea,

Puffers

Micro-Climate Mastermind
I weighed out my AVB and it came out to 35.8 grams.

I threw it in a bottle and shook it with some ISO (a combination of 70% and 91%, as I didn't have enough 91%) for 15 minutes.

I know the method you showed me was called the quick-wash method but another tutorial I looked at recommended 15 minutes of shaking, but that was trim.

Hopefully my hash won't be too shitty now. I'm just waiting for the ISO to finish drying out, then I'll get to scraping.

There are big dark spots/chunks in the dried section which is kind of shitty.

Hopefully I didn't just waste a metric shit ton of AVB.


Ya....let us know what you think :) Unfortantely I predict you might be disappointed. Iso is a semi polar solvent that gets more polar as it increases in temperature, the remaining % that's not Iso is all water which is polar and will extract chlorophyll and other plant matter.

So what I am saying is for good qwiso you want 90% iso or higher, cold iso (some even make salt water baths or go all out with acetone dry ice baths to increase soak times since the Iso is much less polar at sub freezing temperatures), cold plant matter to make the trichomes more brittle and lock moisture into the plant matter, and finally quick washes of your plant matter. If you want to try and extract everything to max your efficiency do multiple washes that you incrementally increase the wash times on that way you have a quality run and then you can see how longer wash times affect your resulting product.

:2c:

Good luck man
 

Fresh_Baked

Member
Ya....let us know what you think :) Unfortantely I predict you might be disappointed. Iso is a semi polar solvent that gets more polar as it increases in temperature, the remaining % that's not Iso is all water which is polar and will extract chlorophyll and other plant matter.

So what I am saying is for good qwiso you want 90% iso or higher, cold iso (some even make salt water baths or go all out with acetone dry ice baths to increase soak times since the Iso is much less polar at sub freezing temperatures), cold plant matter to make the trichomes more brittle and lock moisture into the plant matter, and finally quick washes of your plant matter. If you want to try and extract everything to max your efficiency do multiple washes that you incrementally increase the wash times on that way you have a quality run and then you can see how longer wash times affect your resulting product.

:2c:

Good luck man

Thanks man. At the moment I just have a big glass tray of dark brown crusty goo that I'm gonna have to figure out how to scrape up later.

I did scrape up some of the hash with a knife and threw it in my wand for the fuck of it, and I was surprised by how long it lasted and how effective it was.

It's not the best hash, but it did the job and I'll be happy if I can cleanly scrape the rest up and store it for use without too much trouble.
 

barrydanger

New Member
Cheers , no rush just when ya get round to it , but will be good to hear as edibles put me to sleep instantly and i did not consider making hash so i m intrigued.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
You won't get a huge return lucky to get around a 7gms, don't expect great taste b/c you didn't filter it with water first. However, it should surprise you that you were just gonna pitch it...
13 gram of WAX out of 600 grams clippings = 2.12%
TOP SHELF QUALITY!
 
ataxian,

Puffers

Micro-Climate Mastermind
Nice man as long is works for you that's all that counts, infact if you plan to use it only in the ssv. Longer washes might be preferable because you will have a less oily more stable hash that is more suited to use in the wand IME. Freezing and quick washing is more for a product that's suited for dabbing.

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MotoPsycho

Well-Known Member
I seem to be getting better results with my SSV the more i play with it, but I think im going to order the Standard HC and wand and set this Spherical GG aside for a while.

How are the fatty wands? Do they really provide thicker hits?
No, the hits are not thicker,IMO. I have one and I use it with as much herb as I normally use. I prefer the straight wand, it's easier to break up/crunch your herb inside the bowl when stirring.
 
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BK420

New Member
Got my new SSV a week ago and so far I like it. I have questions though. My ABV is only light green / golden. I let it heat up for 15-20 before at max power. It maxes out at lets say 5:30 on the dial and I turn it down to 3 and have tried it at max power and it doesn't make a big difference in the hits. I slow pull, however if I fast pull it dims the ceramic heater but I do still get a hit. The glow of the ceramic heater seems to vary a bit between noon and max as far as brightness but only half of the stick is glowing. The heater cover is not touching the top of the glass but its pretty close. I have tried moving the glass heater cover up and down but it if it is not right where it is I end up with only green ABV after several pulls. The bottom hole in the heater cover is just below where the glowing orange stops on the heater. The top of the heater cover seems to be "pinched", it is difficult to get the provided poker in the hole to ensure the ceramic heater is not touching the glass.

I get some decent pulls but the color of the ABV has me thinking I am not maximizing my goods. I can only compare to my chinese vape and my Pax and those give me brown / dark brown ABV. I actually prefer to use those for bedtime. I wrote to support and they said this is normal operation but wanted to see what other SSV users were experiencing.
 
BK420,

Vitolo

Vaporist
Do not move Heater cover./.. let it sit in lowest position.
Which Heater cover and wand is it?
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Try inhaling more slowly.
Slow = hot
fast = cooler
Stir and lift the load after each pull... and take many more hits.
 
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Vitolo

Vaporist
No... I think my suggestion was clear:
Try inhaling more slowly.
Slow = hot
fast = cooler
Stir and lift the load after each pull... and take many more hits.

I also said it is not productive to move heater cover, because as you lift it you are allowing air in from bottom.
The ceramic should be fine as it is, and I have only ever moved a ceramic element once, to setup the DBV Oil Rig (Element must be lowered so the TiNail and glass have clearance.
 

BK420

New Member
Do not move Heater cover./.. let it sit in lowest position.
Which Heater cover and wand is it?
b1421860-f56c-4d5f-ba39-32ec39224be7.jpg

Try inhaling more slowly.
Slow = hot
fast = cooler
Stir and lift the load after each pull... and take many more hits.



I have the standard glass. I am a chronic stirrer usually after each pull while I breathe, I hit it until it tastes like vinyl tubing. I doesn't taste the same at the end as my Pax. I use the Pax on medium and at the end I get the burnt popcorn taste. I will push the heater cover all the way down and use my poker to give it a little space between the glass and ceramic heater. 7th floor support recommend an 1/8" of an inch between the top of the glass and the ceramic. I generally pull slow since I am used the Pax. I worry about combustion with my slow pulls which is kind of why I hated the chinese vape the temp accuracy sucked and if I wasn't watching the color of the stuff it could easily combust. I don't think it would combust on the SSV even at max power with a slow pull at this point, not that I want that. Am I wrong in looking at the ABV itself to determine how "used" the product is? If I have everything right with the temp and HC, I should see light and dark brown ABV correct?
 
BK420,

Vitolo

Vaporist
Yes.
The element not touching the glass is less important that you are thinking....
is the element BRIGHT orange?
You should see dark ABV
Do you want to skype with your unit plugged in so I can see?
 
Vitolo,

Fresh_Baked

Member
My AVB hash turned out... Um... Okay.

Unfortunately it's pretty much too sticky to work with. It's a tar black color on the outside and on the inside it's like a dark brown tootsie roll type color.

I can't weigh it out because the trouble of getting it out of the container and getting it back in (and not having it stick to my scale..) would be too much effort.

It took me a good five minutes just to get some of the end product into my wand.

It's so sticky that it has actually kind of fucked up my whole little vape area, here. My heater cover, stirring pokey, rolling tray and wand are all covered in hash.

The worst part is that it's kind of runny. I managed to roll it into a ball and when I put it in the container I was going to keep it in, it just kind of melted into a puddle after a few minutes.

As far as how the hash actually is?

It's alright.

It tastes and feels okay but the stickiness of it kind of ruins it for me. It's almost too sticky to even try to use.

Oh well. I guess I should just wait until concentrates make it to my area. Or I make it to their area. Whichever might come first.
 
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Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
I find the easiest way to deal with ABV oil is to just dab it, but if you're gonna try it with the SSV, I'd reccomend getting a bit on your designated stirring/oil picking up tool, then while its still stuck to the dabber, dip that into your ground herbs.
You'll end up with a your ball of hash crusted with fresh bud, and you can more easily handle that ball since it won't be so sticky on the outside.

Once you get it figured out, it's a nice little treat to have every now and then, so I wouldn't give up on it just yet.

:2c:
 

Fresh_Baked

Member
I find the easiest way to deal with ABV oil is to just dab it, but if you're gonna try it with the SSV, I'd reccomend getting a bit on your designated stirring/oil picking up tool, then while its still stuck to the dabber, dip that into your ground herbs.
You'll end up with a your ball of hash crusted with fresh bud, and you can more easily handle that ball since it won't be so sticky on the outside.

Once you get it figured out, it's a nice little treat to have every now and then, so I wouldn't give up on it just yet.

:2c:



Is it a better idea to vape it or throw it on top of a bowl/pipe and torch it?

Also, how is the SSV's oil diffuser glass top used for concentrates? I've never understood how that would work.

Dabbing is kind of still a foreign thing to me unfortunately.

EDIT: Got a dab on the tip of my SSV pokey and dipped it in fresh ground herb, like you said.

Thank you so much for that tip, it worked perfectly. I was able to put a dab on a fresh bowl without much mess at all.

I'm a lot happier about my oil now than I was 20 minutes ago. haha thanks!
 
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