Palm 2.0

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Dogman said:
I had not had much luck with using a strain called 'The Church' in my P2, it is too sticky and gums everything up.

I had not had much luck with flowers inmy MFLB or P2, but the commercial grade materials work excellent in them. Keif was my choice in both of these vapes, The Church just got real sticky and would not move around in the trench, so keif was an excellent choice for these units.
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No doubt about it, there's a huge difference in potency out there. This guy's not magic, to get to you the THC has to get in. It'll only hold so much if it's weak there's less mg of THC to work with. Using the 'good stuff' when you can get it makes sense.

Some of the kief can stick to the mesh, be careful.

As to the fouling issue, it's probably because it's too moist. Sells best that way you know, but we need it dry to vape (we don't want to waste battery drying it out either). The steam in the bowl seems to glue stuff in place. Grind your bud, let it dry some in an open container, then grind it again if necessary. The MFLB will vape ounces without fouling this way or you can foul it out in a trench or two using wet bud.

Good luck.

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Dogman one kinda rule I found is if the herb won't grind fine and just tears apart and sticks in the grinder its too damp to vape well . The Hydro strains you find around here are almost always too moist and needs to be set out a while to air dry . Kief should make more mess then properly cured Herbs . Don't know Why they sell it like that around here . for the little extra water weight ? or if they just can't wait a bit longer . people will still buy it no matter what, at crazy high prices .
I do like vapin' mids also and find even if I have to Vape two trenches of mids to one trench of 'Dro its worth it for me also most mids i find here are indicas which offer more For my needs and the "dro" is sativa which dosen't achive the medical benefits I need . To get the best of both worlds I Blend the two. I too believe this is an amazing little vape .
 
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Hey gang!

I received my Palm 2.0 on Wednesday of last week. I will post a video in the next day or so, but I wanted to give my first impressions on this unit. I ordered the clear Palm, and loved it the minute I opened the box. It came with a nice cleaning brush, one piece of a black pipe cleaner, two tips, one clear and non flavored, the other a bright green, mint flavored. It also came with a wall charger and a velveteen pouch, that I put in my very first velveteen pouch that I keep all my other brand new, never used velveteen pouches in. If anyone needs an extra velveteen pouch, let me know, I will send you a couple for free just so I don't look like a pouch hoarder.

When I opened the box, I was quite impressed with the P2.0. It is a bit larger than the MFLB, but I thought the shape was more ergonomic than the MFLB, and a little easier to hide in my hand, which I have relatively small hands. I threw the batteries on charge and while waiting for them, I grabbed a MFLB battery and thought I would put it through its paces. I have not used either one of the tips yet, I plan on sticking this in my pocket, and the tip will just come off in my pocket and piss me off, so I decided not to use one.

I am a big fan of keif in my MFLB, it seems the finer the grind, the better the clouds, so I dumped about 1/5th of a trough of keif in and powered it up. I have to agree with Paka, the push back ring in the bottom is VERY stiff and takes quite a bit of pressure to make contact with the terminal. It took a few more seconds to warm up than the MFLB, maybe 5, but gave a very nice, clean flavored hit. I was quite impressed with the flavor. I have quite a few vapes, and the flavor from conduction vapes never seems to get it for me. I don't know if it is because of the lower trough temperature(?), but the flavor on the first 4 or 5 hits was excellent, an 8 in my book.

I do not mean to make my comparisons all to MFLB, but it has a similar trough design to the MFLB, and a similar power source, but that is really where the comparison ends.

Part of the reason I like to use keif so much is that after the first hit, the keif turns into an airy little ball of sticky hash, and will stay in the trough no matter what you do to break it loose. I get anywhere from 10 to 15 hits and never have to shake or move around the keif. The hits from the P2.0 are not as big as the hits from the MFLB, but they are delicious and potent. I got very nicely medicated from one trough full. I am going to love having this in my pocket, plenty of tasty hits and goes well in the pocket without a lot of bulk. Although I will admit the flavor kind of went south after the first 4 or 5 hits.

I do not use much ground bud material in my MFLB, but the second screen made me want to try it, so I packed another trough with some finely ground bud and took it for another ride. I really liked the second screen for being able to shake it and move the blend around, but the second screen got very sticky very fast and started trapping some of the bud away from the heating screen, which was kind of a pain in the ass. I ended up having to clean the screen in ISO after just one trough full. Needless to say, I think for myself this will be a keif only machine.

It feels good and solid in your hand, though the door may come open if dropped on the ground, spilling your load everywhere, but the size and shape will help keep it in the smallest of hands. I really like the construction and design, and it seems like this unit is a little harder to combust with, so it may be a nice choice for beginners. It does not produce big clouds, but it delivers a potent enough vapor stream to make me cough.

I think the P2.0 and I are going to become really good friends, another nice little 'one hitter' style vape in an excellent price range for about everyone. I am proud to have this one in my collection, I know I will get some excellent usage out of it. Thank you VaporBlunt, you hit one out of the park on this one!
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Dogman and All,

Chiming in late here, but wanted express my thanks for your quality reviews and willingness to help those who are new to vaping or unfamiliar with various vaping devices! After reading your review, and other information in this thread, I ordered the Palm 2.0. I'm pleased to report that the unit is everything you've described it to be, definitely an awesome traveling companion.

At present, it is my only vaping device and since receiving it, I've not returned to combustion. The unit is exactly what I needed! Stealth!

Thanks for the work you all put in reviewing these devices and mentoring those new to the techniques! :clap:

Much appreciated!
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Dogman said:
This has been on my mind for a couple of weeks, so I am just going to get it off my chest and allow everyone to call me a cry baby. I have noticed several other reviews on the P2, and TheRealVaporBlunt has made positive comments on all of them ... except mine. I am not a video expert, and it takes quite a bit of set up to do a halfway decent video, so why no "thanks" or "great video" from the owner.

As I said, even as I write this I know it sounds childish, but I feel as though my review was not met with as much enthusiasm (or ANY enthusiasm for that matter) because I purchased mine from Ebay. I purchased through an 'authorized dealer' whom was able to handle warranty issues. It seems to me if the authorized dealer purchased these units from VaporBlunt, that VaporBlunt would have made their money on the P2 that I purchased when they sold the quantity to the 'authorized dealer'.

It isn't as though the boy expected a thank you, but the lack of any comment has not set well with me. It was a very positive review, and from the comments I have received on my YouTube channel, it has helped sell a few units for Vaporblunt. I have checked everyday for some positive comment from TherealVapoBlunt, to no avail.

I am a cheapskate, no doubt about it, I will find the best price possible and try to save what little money that I have. If purchasing a unit from Ebay puts me in the bad boy video club, so be it. If you do not want them to be sold on Ebay for less than I can purchase it from your store, then do not sell to dealers that cut your prices.

Feel free to call me names, give me a demerit, I will take my punishment like a man, but I am upset and had to get it off my chest. I am not the type to harbor anger, so I speak my mind and let it go. Ahhh, I feel better now!

Beyond that, it is still a great vaporizer, I recommend it to my friends and use it everyday, it is very thrifty to use. No harm and no foul to anyone, it just hurt my little feelings, that's all.
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I thought your review was awesome. You answered all of my questions and then some! I enjoyed your video and your cat :cool:
I am a MFLB user and I love it. It is just that I cannot really conceal the box when out in public. That is why I have an interest in the Palm 2.0
It looks small enough to fit in my hand and not look suspicious!
Looking forward to seeing you on here again!
And thank you for the time you took to make the video :clap::bowdown::mflb:
 
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zourdiesel said:
have a vaporblunt 2.0 and like it enough, so I ordered the palm 2 today for something more portable!
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I think you'll like it , Ive been using one for only a month or so and it has found a solid place in my vaping routine .
Yesterday I came across some Tenergy 2500mAh batteries around the house and charged them up . I know other brands are recomended over the Tenergy's but I have 12 that cost me nothing and they work great . I have to say IMHO the stock charger and batteries Don't make the grade . I was using some old MFLB batteries that would no longer power a LB for more then a hit or two , in the P2 they will still do more then a trench . The 2500mAh's when rotating batteries every other hit I've gotten 7 trenches off of 2 batteries and their still going .

on an important sidenote this little gal is one of the best tasting vapes I've used , and the stealthiest !
 
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RUDE BOY said:
I think you'll like it , Ive been using one for only a month or so and it has found a solid place in my vaping routine .
Yesterday I came across some Tenergy 2500mAh batteries around the house and charged them up . I know other brands are recomended over the Tenergy's but I have 12 that cost me nothing and they work great . I have to say IMHO the stock charger and batteries Don't make the grade . I was using some old MFLB batteries that would no longer power a LB for more then a hit or two , in the P2 they will still do more then a trench . The 2500mAh's when rotating batteries every other hit I've gotten 7 trenches off of 2 batteries and their still going .

on an important sidenote this little gal is one of the best tasting vapes I've used , and the stealthiest !
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I have an old thermovape t1, is that the same battery youre talking about?
its a tenergy RCR123A 3.0 V battery..will it work w the palm?

and yeah that's also why I like this company, they seem to produce good flavor! hitting a tasty mix of nyc diesel and pineapple chunk right now...very tasty..
 
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zourdiesel said:
I have an old thermovape t1, is that the same battery youre talking about?
its a tenergy RCR123A 3.0 V battery..will it work w the palm?
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No, unfortunately not. Entirely the wrong size, physically and electrically. They won't even fit in the hole. You need serious power AA size NiMH guys. 1.2 Volts, not 3.

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OF said:
You need serious power AA size NiMH guys. 1.2 Volts, not 3.

OF
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I'm not sure what you meant here but to clarify, the P2 does not need the same power from the battery that the MFLB does. That's one of its charms.

If you put the new Magic-Flight batteries in it, it's basically a lighter. If you use a Powerex 2700 it will be tricky to avoid combustion. In my experience the P2 performs best with a Powerex Imedion 2400, and works nicely with the stock battery, which seems to be a 2250 something. If you put a P2 stock battery in the LB, it barely warms up.
 
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I'm not sure what you meant here but to clarify, the P2 does not need the same power from the battery that the MFLB does. That's one of its charms.
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Good information. My point is while 'not any old AA size NiMH' will drive the Palm (some will), the "a tenergy RCR123A 3.0 V battery" from the OP's " old thermovape t1" isn't even a starter. Wrong voltage and size.

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The tenergy AA 2500s work just fine . Haven't seen any sign of combustion . That said I haven't tried to reach that point , if i were to power up for 20 seconds towards the end of a session i'm pretty sure I would run the risk of smoke 'n vape .
 
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I am completely new to this site and joined strictly for this discussion. I went to my LHS in search of a launch box. After finding out I had to drive nearly 30 mins to get to the shop only to find out that they were sold out, the owner showed me the palm 2. And after he offered to knock the price down to 79.99, he sold me on it. My first session with it I was fairly disappointed. I was barely getting any vapor and did not come close to as medicated as I wanted to be, I was scared that I had wasted $80. However, my second session was much more enjoyable, as I feel like I figured out my proper rhythm and started getting a noticeable amount of vapor. After 4 trenches I was feeling good.
I don't have a problem with my unflavored mouthpiece falling out, as it is a solid clear plastic, the same as the lid is made out of. The green mint flavored soft mouthpiece however falls out easily, and I found it more enjoyable to just chew a piece of gum while using the unflavored tip. My major disappointment in this vape is that I have to use four trenches to get medicated. I had planned on filling it and taking it in to a movie theater with me, but having to reload it in the theater would be too risky, it is still a good little vape, I think I just had my hopes up in thinking that one or two trenches would get me to where I wanted to be.
 
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hakysakit said:
I think I just had my hopes up in thinking that one or two trenches would get me to where I wanted to be.
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Howdy, good to meet you. Welcome to the Forum. Even if you didn't get the model you went for, IMO you were a long way from skunked. The Palm is a useful vape as well.

How much is enough for each of us is a huge variable, isn't it. There are some two toke sailors around, then there's a guy around here famous for seven gram blunts. Plural, IIRC. And for many of us it goes up and down.

No vape is magic. The best you can hope for is most of the THC you put into it getting delivered to you. How much (in grams) would you normally smoke in a session? As a rule of thumb, half the THC is destroyed by heat in the bowl in blazing, not so in vaping. Some is left behind, of course, a few percent, typically. Of that that is delivered, most find it more effective mg for mg when vaped correctly, it's believed, I think, to be mostly from two effects. One is the vapor is delivered at closer to 'the ideal size' particles coming from a more orderly process. Secondly it seems that not getting it with a huge dose of nasty chemicals does take some of the 'buzz edge' off (you can get off huffing all sorts of stuff not good for you, you brain probably is linking on to the other?).

These combine such that most guys find that when they finally bread with blazing long enough (it takes weeks for most of us) specific consumption (say grams per week, or mg per session) drops to about one fourth.

So the Palm trench holds maybe 125mg (1/8 gram). If you normally blaze less than half an ounce, I think you're goal is withing reach. Otherwise plan on reloads. No big deal there, it's easy if you plan ahead. I load .125 of dried, ground bud into these guys:
http://www.specialtybottle.com/1dramamberglassvialwblackcap.aspx

That makes reloads, even in the dark by feel, a snap.

Good luck getting to know the Palm, I think you'll find it's a good tool for the job.

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My only time vaping prior to getting the palm was with a whip style vape, which gave me one of the most enjoyable highs I've ever had. I think that may have set my hopes too high because I felt like this would be similar. I still am happy with my purchase and am confident that I will get to know the p2 and love it. I'll have to get me a couple of those vials, OF. They could really come in handy for public. Thanks
 
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hakysakit said:
I think that may have set my hopes too high because I felt like this would be similar. I still am happy with my purchase and am confident that I will get to know the p2 and love it. I'll have to get me a couple of those vials, OF. They could really come in handy for public. Thanks
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I'm not so sure of that. Box vapes tend to run pretty well fairly easily. You can dial up the performance to match your technique, not the other way around. That will always be easier I think because it's so reproducible. Units like P2 and MFLB depend on 'driver skill' to set the operating point. Once on that point (assuming you can maintain it) performance jumps into the 'sneaks up and smacks you down' levels you're looking for? It will just deliver it over a series of hits that's more spread out. Put enough THC in the bowl and get the delivery going efficiently so you get most of it into you and you can't miss unless the bowl's too small.....and needs refilling.

For homework you should practice.

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hakysakit said:
[...one trench of the P2 wasn't enough...]
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In addition to the excellent advice from OF, make sure you use a dry load and grind it really fine, grain of salt size. This will allow you to get more in the trench aa well as put more material in contact with the heater screen. If you're converting from smoking, it's best to stop smoking completely and allow yourself a few days to get more accustomed to the vapour high.
 
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So is the consesus that this is a generally good portable vape, just has a learning curve to it similar to the launch box? Also how does it compare to other portable vapes (such as the launch box)? Close to purchasing a unit that's why I'm curious.
 
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I get it as fine as possible, but with the grinder I have grain of salt size is near impossible. I did try one load of kief per request by dogman with some good results. My third session with it will be this evening, and I haven't smoked since getting it so ill stop for a while. Thanks everyone for the input!
 
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I get it as fine as possible, but with the grinder I have grain of salt size is near impossible. I did try one load of kief per request by dogman with some good results. My third session with it will be this evening, and I haven't smoked since getting it so ill stop for a while. Thanks everyone for the input!
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You can easily get the kind of fine grind I described. Put your ground weed and a quarter in a pill jar or similar small container, then shake for 30-60 seconds. If you're using a four piece grinder, you can just put the coin in the grinder. That will also collect a lot of kief, but it will be "contaminated" with fine bud particles.

I've typed out this tip so many times I should put it in my sig.
 
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I do have a 4 piece but its really small. 2 inch I think. Should I use a coin smaller than a quarter?

3rd session update, three trenches, with the kief from the grind sprinkled on the third trench = pretty good high

mod note: Please avoid back-to-back posts, use Edit instead. Two posts merged.
 
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hakysakit said:
I do have a 4 piece but its really small. 2 inch I think. Should I use a coin smaller than a quarter?

3rd session update, three trenches, with the kief from the grind sprinkled on the third trench = pretty good high

mod note: Please avoid back-to-back posts, use Edit instead. Two posts merged.
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Sure, a nickel works too.
 
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I got some hash and was wondering if its safe to mix it with weed and put it in the trench...saw some guy on youtube smoking kief outa one
 
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zourdiesel said:
I got some hash and was wondering if its safe to mix it with weed and put it in the trench...saw some guy on youtube smoking kief outa one
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yeah i think you can go ,
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For easy maintenance it has a replaceable screen and a food grade plastic air path, which allows you to easily keep it clean regardless of concentrate use"
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my friend bought it , I'ma try it next week and let you know what i think of the product and about concentrate consumption with it.
 
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Looking to purchase my first vaporizer, need something discreet and portable, like the Flight Box, or the Palm 2.0

Basically, I'm deciding between the 2, and for some reason I'm leaning towards the Palm 2.0 I've seen a few listings on eBay for around $70-80, which isn't a bad price IMO. However, I'm concerned about the Warrany, if the costumer service of the company is not very good, I will just purchase the reliable MFLB. However if the service is good, and they stick true to there warranty, I'll purchase the Palm.

Also, how does the warranty work, can only authorized sellers issue warranties? Is there a life warranty? Say it stops working randomly one day, could I ship it back for another?

Found one on eBay from an "Autherized seller", so I'd assume the warranty will still work. Here's the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VaporBlunt-...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item19d7ede5a1 .

Thanks.
 
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joshmcmillan said:
Looking to purchase my first vaporizer, need something discreet and portable, like the Flight Box, or the Palm 2.0

Basically, I'm deciding between the 2, and for some reason I'm leaning towards the Palm 2.0 I've seen a few listings on eBay for around $70-80, which isn't a bad price IMO. However, I'm concerned about the Warrany, if the costumer service of the company is not very good, I will just purchase the reliable MFLB. However if the service is good, and they stick true to there warranty, I'll purchase the Palm.

Also, how does the warranty work, can only authorized sellers issue warranties? Is there a life warranty? Say it stops working randomly one day, could I ship it back for another?

Found one on eBay from an "Autherized seller", so I'd assume the warranty will still work. Here's the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VaporBlunt-...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item19d7ede5a1 .

Thanks.
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this seller...
"Ceramic Heating chamber w/ Glass air path"

there is no glass path in the 2.0, he copy/paste info from the 1.0.
 
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