Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

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francis

Vape enthusiasms
They claim to be an authorized dealer. If I were you, miketek, I would contact Ploom right away and try to verify this. You don't want to lose a 10-year warranty to save a measly $20.
i looked on ebay before buying from ploom.com
they all say "10 years warranty" but there is no ebay authorized dealer as stated in the ploom fact.
ploom.com/warranty-exclusions-and-limitations-advisory said:
lease note:
Warranty applies to original end-user purchaser only. Warranty does not apply should you purchase through a 3rd party reseller such as eBay and Craigslist

Just contacted them, i have warranty on my pax =)
you spoke with ploom ?

how can they sell it cheaper ? refurbished or old model ?
 
francis,

miketk

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i looked on ebay before buying from ploom.com
they all say "10 years warranty" but there is no ebay authorized dealer as stated in the ploom fact.



you spoke with ploom ?

how can they sell it cheaper ? refurbished or old model ?

I ended up canceling the order off ebay, and bought it directly from their store instead (which is an authorized retailer). They provided me with a store receipt, and I was able to confirm with Ploom that the store is an authorized retailer and the warranty is valid.

The process was a bit brutal, but i'm happy that my pax is coming with a 10 yr warranty!
 

francis

Vape enthusiasms
I ended up canceling the order off ebay, and bought it directly from their store instead (which is an authorized retailer). They provided me with a store receipt, and I was able to confirm with Ploom that the store is an authorized retailer and the warranty is valid.

The process was a bit brutal, but i'm happy that my pax is coming with a 10 yr warranty!
same price as ebay ?
 
francis,

V8pire

The Vape Is The Life!
Warranty is legit. I had issues with the temp light staying on and the answer from them is that lube. They sent me a new mouthpiece and lube but still didnt fix completely. They had me send it back and they sent a new one. The turn around was pretty quick and the new pax works better than the original I had. Heats up quicker also. Bottom line is you def want the warranty as they had some bugs in quite a few of them.
 
V8pire,

vapeguy

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Thanks for the answers about the solid filter being normal.

After many uses it sometimes goes in the temperature setting mode until it warms up which I know is a common issue with a simple solution, was that what the "spring cleaning" is for? Anyone know where the post is that explains it?

Another quick question, what grind coarseness works best in the Pax, fine or coarse, and any pics of a good grind for the Pax?

I just tried a idea I had before I even got my Pax which is to mix your herb with mint to achieve a tight pack with whatever amount of herb you want to use. For example, say you want a 1/4 load, add a 3/4 load of mint leaves and mix. I think I'll be doing this often as it tastes great and maintains efficiency with less herb.

Thanks
 
vapeguy,
Thanks for the answers about the solid filter being normal.

After many uses it sometimes goes in the temperature setting mode until it warms up which I know is a common issue with a simple solution, was that what the "spring cleaning" is for? Anyone know where the post is that explains it?

Another quick question, what grind coarseness works best in the Pax, fine or coarse, and any pics of a good grind for the Pax?

I just tried a idea I had before I even got my Pax which is to mix your herb with mint to achieve a tight pack with whatever amount of herb you want to use. For example, say you want a 1/4 load, add a 3/4 load of mint leaves and mix. I think I'll be doing this often as it tastes great and maintains efficiency with less herb.

Thanks

I was about to link you to the Vaporpedia page, but it's down? The link is in my sig below. See if it works for you.
 
TheDudeNextDoor,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
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Thanks for the answers about the solid filter being normal.

After many uses it sometimes goes in the temperature setting mode until it warms up which I know is a common issue with a simple solution, was that what the "spring cleaning" is for? Anyone know where the post is that explains it?

Another quick question, what grind coarseness works best in the Pax, fine or coarse, and any pics of a good grind for the Pax?

I just tried a idea I had before I even got my Pax which is to mix your herb with mint to achieve a tight pack with whatever amount of herb you want to use. For example, say you want a 1/4 load, add a 3/4 load of mint leaves and mix. I think I'll be doing this often as it tastes great and maintains efficiency with less herb.

Thanks

You've got me a bit confused. When the Pax is in temperature display mode, it isn't heating up.

Cleaning the spring and the well it sits in is one of the common suggestions to fix the problem, the other is to use some of Ploom's famous lube. While these solutions seem to fix the problem for most people (at least temporarily) I have never found it necessary to use either of them. My Pax was going into temperature display mode at least once a day for a long time, and my normal fix was simply to remove the mouthpiece and blow through it. I have no idea why this works but it does almost all of the time. I haven't had to do this for a long time now, however. Again I don't understand why, but my Pax simply stopped acting up. It's my wife's daily driver and the usage pattern hasn't changed, but it almost never goes into temperature display any more. I also don't clean it nearly as often, since the frequent cleaning was driven mostly by the temp display problem.

The Pax is a conduction device so dry finely ground loads work best, however coarsely ground loads will work too. Although the recommended way to load the Pax is to pack tightly, that's not mandatory. A loose coarsely ground load that doesn't even cover the screen will work just fine, but a full tight pack of finely ground works best. That's the theory, anyway. I've been loading .05g in the Pax for a while now without bothering to pack it down at all and my wife says she can't tell the difference. (I always use a fine grind.)

No it has been dead for like 2 days now

The Vaporpedia server had a RAID failure and will return as soon as that is repaired.
 

darrrius

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Hey all,

I have just ordered a PAX via ebay, to be delivered to myself here in the UK. I know this is risky and all, but it seems my only choice as PAX customer servicesw could not give me an idea as to when they may expand to UK markets.

My question is, what kind of plug adapter do I need to ensure I dont blow anything up when charging here in the UK?

Many Thanks

D
 
darrrius,

vapor007

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Anybody having issues with Charging?

When I place my PAX on the charging stand, it does not charge at all. There is no light or anything.

I still have medium battery on my PAX. When I place it on the charger nothing happens, and no charge.

Anybody have this issue?

Thanks
D
 
vapor007,

kushcabbage

vapor nerd
Anybody having issues with Charging?

When I place my PAX on the charging stand, it does not charge at all. There is no light or anything.

I still have medium battery on my PAX. When I place it on the charger nothing happens, and no charge.

Anybody have this issue?

Thanks
D
try flipping it the other way with the led facing the opposite direction.
 
kushcabbage,

vapor007

New Member
try flipping it the other way with the led facing the opposite direction.

Unfortunately that does not work.

I'm thinking I have to take it apart. I have no warranty from purchasing off Ebay.

The device works great, I still have medium power. But I'm afraid I won't be able to charge it again.
 
vapor007,

kushcabbage

vapor nerd
Unfortunately that does not work.

I'm thinking I have to take it apart. I have no warranty from purchasing off Ebay.

The device works great, I still have medium power. But I'm afraid I won't be able to charge it again.
the contacts at the mouthpiece side of the body, are any bent in, and possibly not making contact? Also a possibility could be the charger body or the plug, or even your house wiring. I'm assuming the circuit your connecting to is working, but I'd start with double checking the charger before taking the pax apart. Cheers and best of luck.
 
kushcabbage,

Mr.Krinkle

Shpooding Time.
yeah I'd trouble-shoot the fuck out of everything before taking it apart, the contacts that are found on the inside of the pax unit once the mouthpiece is removed could potentially be resinated or dirty, I used to have a chargeable flashlight that required constant cleaning of the contacts.
 

eviling

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alright i got my "review"

the unit, is great. after researching the battery size, the element design, heating methods. and owning both usits, the pax by ploom and the vape blunt 2.0 (awsome unit in its own rights) with the one you have showy waste of money, they made an effort. it also doubles as a very simple design that wont fail in to many spots. 10 year warrenty BOOM. easy money. charge a premium for the nice warrenty.

the VP. you have a very nice thought through design, you have a cheaped out manufacturing process. parts could of been chosen better, less generic design. better strurider wires going into heating elemtnts, far to thin to even support multible 100 clean downs. i got mine apart and together but i woudln't advice doing it again!! super thin wire. tight spacing, cheap plastic. little protection, BUT ENOUGH. your putting fire in your hand no matter how you shake it with both units.

the battery, easily repalcable + on the VP 2.0, not eaisly done, but not needed with 10 year warrent, even bunch for punch. so their both gonna last roughly as long.

cooking, their both pretty much metal conduction into an oven. the VP a more conventinal top hat screen. very easily filled, the pax the same, although hard to clean on the pax and prown with tight corners, not the case with the cone ont he VP. 1 button on each unit total, each unit goes about it completly differently. the pax only uses it for heat control.the VP uses it for the power button and heat settings. pax is far easier.


using with the buddys. your gonna find their both impractical, as the vapor still needss a moment to build up "cook" i think of it as. so, not good in the pass around the buss. but good for 2-3 buddys ont he couch. great in fact. the VP, has its draw backs, better flow. full heat seems to do a better job keeping the vapor flowing, but still with oven size far to small. but plenty big for 1 -3 peple again if wanted but quite as far as the pax for length.


the VP has the design for the stoner award in my book. easy feed, easy build in stir stick. the quality seems poor in both deparments but with the wear around the areas they seem sufficiant, but nothing worth my penny for sure. not the feel anyways. perhaps to much $ in design, not enough in production, the pax much the same the opisite, as its practical uses are limited, where as the VP can expand, add a water unit which is VERY nice. very massive plus. if the unit could last longh to be worth the 150$ I don't know my self. ima wait a few months on that purchase myself. see if the unit can last long enough to warrent a glass pieace that expensive that can only use this unit.

features and design all on the VP

lacking in the follow through with quality but does the job well. seems "worth" it.

the pax, great follow through on wuality. could of had more practicality, but also with its smaller size (smaller batter) its more efficiant heating and smarter heating lower temps gives it only slightly shorter life span than the VP. which seems wasteful IMO but ive yet to kill mine, can't ocmpare life. life on pax is about 45 mins. pretty firm on that on red. probobly not so firm with yellow and orange settings.


so. their ya have it. i smoke entirly to much vapor, and my unit turned off while i wrote this. I need to go fill up! :)


my esatimated production cost for both units is likley very similer for each unit. maybe more in fact for the VP. i got mine for 170$ because im a cheap fuck. XD

I like the pax for taste on red yellow and orange. the VP seems fast, but little suface are and smaller oven affect that too, also the cloud size. a slightly longer wait between the two. depeneds how its filled, how hot is and how long it sbeen on, what your ocoking how much it has how dry it is. so both units vary, i dont have any kind of references.
 
eviling,

vapeguy

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the review, but the large number of typos and various other errors make it both hard to read and to understand. It's sometimes not even clear which of the two vapes you're talking about.

Thanks
 
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JDR

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So, I just impulse bought a Pax. My most recent purchase before was DB. I have to say, that unlike the fat man, this Pax is foolproof. You can really do no wrong. Greater or lesser vapor, yes. But wow, you really can't burn stuff in this thing can you.
 

eviling

Active Member
haha well this is what happens when you use the product to talk about the product ;) haha. sorry i read it a few times worked in my head so i guess i figuired it was good enough :( guess not.

I like em both. like everyone says, your gonna give something else up something when your switching between units, no unit has everything.


guess its locked in, their no fixing what can not be edited. sorry boys. still if you can bare the typos and vapor influance jiberish, their is good info to be had out of it :) wish i had taken some picture of it when i took the VP apart. which by the way, both units are easily torn down, the pax 1 screw, the VP, 2 screws. the battery has a PLUG on the VP, which is awsome in my book.

the only thing that has me worried about the vp are those thin leads for the heater like i said, and your tube that gores thorught your unit passes right by one of them wires, and if you pull out said tube to clean, it should be kept in mind that wire could bt their on your unit. (moved mine) but pretty close to a home run if they tweaked a few things on both units, personly i think the 2 together make a great setup. ive been using them and no stand unit.
 
eviling,

michele

Member
Been doing this as of recent. You sir are a genius.
:cool:


Ploom should sell 2 differents oven caps ;
1 regular
1 that goes deeper inside the oven so it reduce the trench size...

kinda like this
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This could be a good idea but the lid would probably overheat. I think the best solution would be a screen that can stay in place when pushed down in the oven, something like what i use, but properly made, which could be like this
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easy to make, cheap and would do the job

I've been loading .05g in the Pax for a while now without bothering to pack it down at all and my wife says she can't tell the difference. (I always use a fine grind.)
When i tried this it gave me just a few wispy hits, the only way i see to make it work with so little amout, without extra sceens, is to keep the unit upside down to ensure the herb is touching the oven screen. What's your secret?
 
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